Chris & Lisa
Been There Got Out Podcast
Chris and Lisa of BeenThereGotOut.com both survived toxic marriages with narcissistic partners and the legal and co-parenting nightmares that go hand-in-hand with all of that. If you are struggling in a high-conflict relationship, divorce, custody battle, or co-parenting hell which requires PERSONALIZED attention, let us HOLD YOUR HAND along the way, while providing EXPERT, STRATEGIC guidance based on one's years of success (representing myself in court!), coupled with the other's High Conflict Divorce Coach certification. Our podcast features interviews with lawyers, therapists, co-parenting...
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Chris & Lisa
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Jun 25, 2026
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Episodes
Turning Your Mess Into Your Message: How to Survive a Narcissistic Parent (or Spouse) and Go On To Have an Amazing Life - with Coach Chris Jackson 27.08.2022 56:48
In this episode of the Been There Got Out Podcast, we welcome our new friend, Coach Chris Jackson (Instagram @the_kineticlife_coach), an adult child of a narcissistic father, who managed to stop the cycle of intergenerational trauma, put his energy into sports resulting in a career as a professional football player, and then become a successful entrepreneur helping others realize their dreams. We...
Lies, Smear Campaigns, False Allegations, Oh My! - with Author and Narcissistic Abuse Expert Tracy Malone 25.08.2022 45:56
In this episode of the Been There Got Out Podcast, we welcome back our friend, narcissistic abuse expert, coach, and best-selling author Tracy Malone (Instagram @tracyamalone), who talks about her new book, “Divorcing Your Narcissist: You Can't Make This Sh*t Up.” We also discuss what Tracy calls the “three-bucket strategy” of telling people about your divorce, the importance of parenting pla...
Sex Addiction and the Narcissist (and More!) with Therapist Rebecca Ishida 23.08.2022 1:15:00
In this episode of the Been There Got Out Podcast, we welcome therapist and addiction specialist Rebecca Ishida (Instagram @rebecca_ishida), who gets into lying by omission and why gaslighting is so devastating, why people defend abusers, and the nature of living a double life. Remember, if you are struggling in a high-conflict relationship, divorce, custody battle, or co-parenting hell which requ...
How to Recognize a Narcissist on Social Media - with Chelsey Brooke Cole 22.08.2022 40:03
In this episode, the Been There Got Out Podcast welcomes back our friend, psychotherapist, author, and narcissistic abuse expert Chelsey Brooke Cole (Instagram @chelseybrookecole). We get into the various ways narcissists use social media to get what they want, through four specific types of posts and smear campaigns. We also talk about how they specifically use it during a high conflict divorce o...
I Just Want This Done! - with Family Law Attorney Raiford Palmer 21.08.2022 56:12
BTGO welcomes Chicagoland Family Law Attorney Raiford Palmer (Instagram @raifordpalmer), author of “I Just Want This Done: How Smart, Successful People Get Divorced Without Losing Their Kids, Money, and Minds,” which is on our “Mount Rushmore” of books. Raiford gets into the myths versus the realities of family court and what you can do to "get more divorced." He also discusses why it&ap...
The Client as Consumer: Taking Your Power Back in Family Court - with David Morneau & Warrior Woman Angie 20.08.2022 1:11:17
In this episode of the Been There Got Out Podcast, Lisa and Chris welcome back Canadian family law attorney David Morneau (Instagram @dmorneaulaw) and warrior woman Angie (Instagram @bosslady.to) for the second in our series, “The Client as Consumer.” We discuss ways we can start taking our power back in family court, and why your lawyer should not be viewed as the "knight in shining armor&qu...
Creating Secure Attachments with Your Children - with Dawn Brauer 19.08.2022 58:08
In this episode, the Been There Got Out Podcast welcomes our friend and attachment expert Dawn Brauer (Instagram @securebabies) for a talk about how to create a strong bond with our children from infancy, how to raise secure, resilient children, and how to handle those times when that bond is really tested, especially when dealing with the effects of a toxic co-parent. Remember, if you are struggl...
Sharing Your Story on Social Media During a High-Conflict Case - with Attorney Sean Valentine 18.08.2022 28:10
In this episode of the Been There Got Out Podcast, we welcome back our friend, Canadian attorney, Sean Valentine (Instagram @seancory42) who gets into some of the consequences of sharing one's story on social media during an active case, surreptitious recordings, gag orders, and why domestic abuse victims should not necessarily be terrified of sharing their stories after the high-profile John...
How to Take Strategic Oversight of Your Own Case: Tips for Representing Yourself in Court - with Lielle Arad 17.08.2022 42:30
In this episode of the Been There Got Out podcast, we welcome Lielle Arad (Instagram @lawsuitsme), a successful pro se (self-represented litigant), for a lively discussion about why the truth has become so expensive, how the opposing sides' lies can benefit you, and other tips for managing your own case, even if you have an attorney! Remember, if you are struggling in a high-conflict relation...
The Client As Consumer: Things to Know When Retaining An Attorney (part 2 of 2) - with David Morneau & Warrior Woman Angie 16.08.2022 51:35
In this episode, we continue our longest-ever interview with Canadian GOLD STANDARD family law attorney David Morneau and super-client / warrior woman Angie in what turned out to be the first in our series, “I Wish I Knew Then What I Know Now: The Client As Consumer” We pick up the conversation where we left off in the last episode. David is talking about how we can improve our systems. That'...
The Client As Consumer: Things to Know When Retaining An Attorney (part 1 of 2) - with David Morneau & Warrior Woman Angie 15.08.2022 54:28
In this episode of the Been There Got Out Podcast, Chris and Lisa welcome Canadian GOLD STANDARD family law attorney David Morneau (Instagram @dmorneaulaw) and expert client/warrior woman Angie (Instagram @bosslady.to) in the first of our series, “The Client As Consumer” Do YOU want to change the system? Then start by TAKING YOUR POWER BACK, arming yourself with an EDUCATION, and WINNING your case...
How to Navigate Your Way Effectively Through Family Court - with Attorney Dennis Vetrano 14.08.2022 47:26
In this episode of the Been There Got Out Podcast, we welcome NY family law attorney Dennis Vetrano (Instagram & TikTok @drvlaw) who gives it to you straight! We discuss catastrophic wastes of money, how to avoid spending way more than you have to on your divorce attorney, why it's so important to be first to meet with professionals involved with your case, and much more! Remember, if you...
How to Effectively Deal with Kids Experiencing Emotional Abuse - with Christine Cocchiola 13.08.2022 53:17
In this episode of the Been There Got Out Podcast, we welcome back Christine Cocchiola (Instagram @coercivecontrolisipv) for an enlightening and emotional interview, starting with a letter from an abusive parent to a child, and getting into how our children are affected by the dynamic in a psychologically abusive home. Christine also talks about specific ways to handle when a child or teenager co...
The Amazing Trauma-Informed Mediator Dr. Barb 12.08.2022 1:04:31
In this episode of the Been There Got Out Podcast, we welcome back our friend and colleague, Dr. Barb Hughson, for an interview that’s PACKED with amazing information from a unique expert - a mediator and therapist with decades of experience and exceptional EMPATHY. Remember, if you are struggling in a high-conflict relationship, divorce, custody battle, or co-parenting hell which requires PERSONA...
Surveillance, Stalking, Survival, and How to Properly Use Information to Strengthen Your Court Case - with Greg Glassock of Olympic Tactical 04.08.2022 56:09
In this episode of the Been There Got Out Podcast, we welcome back Washington-based Greg Glassock, head of Olympic Tactical @olytac (Instagram), who talks about how technology has changed the nature of STALKING and SURVEILLANCE, all those "weird coincidences" that happen with an abusive ex, what to do to protect yourself, and so much more! Remember, if you are struggling in a high-confli...
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