Chris & Lisa
Been There Got Out Podcast
Chris and Lisa of BeenThereGotOut.com both survived toxic marriages with narcissistic partners and the legal and co-parenting nightmares that go hand-in-hand with all of that. If you are struggling in a high-conflict relationship, divorce, custody battle, or co-parenting hell which requires PERSONALIZED attention, let us HOLD YOUR HAND along the way, while providing EXPERT, STRATEGIC guidance based on one's years of success (representing myself in court!), coupled with the other's High Conflict Divorce Coach certification. Our podcast features interviews with lawyers, therapists, co-parenting...
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Chris & Lisa
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Jun 25, 2026
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Episodes
Uncovering the Truth: Compassionate Investigation in High-Conflict Divorce 01.02.2024 49:03
Peek behind the curtain of private investigation with Jon, an empathetic sleuth who's reinventing the game. Our enthralling conversation uncovers the truth behind infidelity, child custody, and fraud, and the emotional intelligence necessary to navigate these turbulent waters. As Jon takes us on a journey through the shadowy alleys of surveillance and investigation, you're guaranteed to...
Crafting Effective Parenting Plans with Shea Drefs of CustodyXChange 30.01.2024 27:53
Listen in as Shea Drefs from Custody Exchange joins us for a thought-provoking conversation on the ins and outs of parenting plans for those navigating the complexities of separation or divorce. We kick things off by exploring the online app CustodyXchange, which serves as a vital resource for parents in crafting parenting plans, sharing expenses, and communicating effectively. Shea underscores th...
Revolutionizing Family Law with "Unbundled Services" 27.01.2024 33:27
Witnessing a client's tragedy can irreversibly change a professional's career path, a reality Lianne Houssami from Upshift Legal Solutions knows all too well. Her experience with a client's suicide led her away from family law, only to return with a mission to revolutionize the field. Our heartfelt discussion with Lianne peels back the layers of her journey, emphasizing the power of...
Overcoming the Trauma of Narcissistic Discard 25.01.2024 35:47
Unlock the secrets to healing from the invisible wounds of narcissistic discard as we share an enlightening conversation with Chelsey Brooke Cole, a psychotherapist specializing in this form of emotional trauma. Chelsey's insights shed light on the insidious cycle of idealization, devaluation, and the eventual discard that leaves many reeling in confusion and pain. The discussion journeys thr...
Navigating Healthy Intimacy After Emotional Turmoil 23.01.2024 29:33
Unlock the secrets to navigating intimacy after the storm of toxic relationships as we sit down with the insightful Dr. Kristie Overstreet, renowned sex therapist and voice behind the "Fix Yourself First" podcast. This episode peels back the layers on subjects often shrouded in silence, from confronting narcissistic behavior that can suffocate the bedroom atmosphere to challenging the de...
Secrets to Navigating High-Conflict Cases Successfully 20.01.2024 52:11
Join us for a compelling conversation with Pennsylvania Family Law Attorney Beth Tibbot, as we explore the intricate connections between psychology, family law, and navigating high-conflict situations. Beth's unique journey from a psychology graduate to a seasoned family lawyer provides invaluable insights into the challenges and revelations within the legal system. Listen in as she shares he...
Empowering Your Journey: Choose Your Own Adventure in Your Divorce 18.01.2024 35:39
Join us as we sit down with Sean Valentine, a family lawyer/coach hailing from Canada, who introduces us to his innovative legal coaching services for those embroiled in the turmoil of separation and divorce. Sean paints a picture of a legal support system where clients can craft their own journey, choosing the help they need, whether that's document drafting, courtroom strategy, or understan...
The Art of Keeping High-Conflict Divorce Cases Moving Forward 13.01.2024 32:46
Unlock the secrets to navigating high-conflict divorce from the trenches with expert guidance from Jeffrey Kaplan, a seasoned New York City divorce attorney with a flair for tackling matrimonial chaos. Join us as we delve into the gritty details of prolonged legal battles, where the deep pockets of a financially dominant spouse can turn discovery into a weapon of delay. Jeffrey's experience s...
Building Resilience Through Breath & Movement with Dr. Kurt Waples 11.01.2024 43:16
Unlock the secrets to a healthier, less stressed life with Dr. Kurt Waples as we explore the undeniable link between stress and physical health. Our bodies often bear the brunt of our emotional turmoil, a truth that becomes evident in the throes of high-stakes situations like high-conflict divorces or enduring complex PTSD. Dr. Waples, with his wealth of knowledge, sheds light on the significance...
The Truth About Domestic Violence and Child Custody 09.01.2024 48:03
Join us for an enlightening chat with Stephanie, a seasoned NY domestic violence attorney, as we continue to untangle the complex web of myths and realities that permeate family court. Listen in as Stephanie dismantles pervasive misconceptions, like the supposed biases of judges or the notion that one gender is favored in custody disputes. With a discerning eye, we scrutinize the statistics and re...
Navigating Divorce with a Narcissist: Proven Strategies for Success 07.01.2024 30:25
Unlock the secrets of divorce that your lawyer might not tell you, as we're joined by Raiford Palmer, the sharp-minded divorce attorney and author of the best-selling book "I Just Want This Done." Rayford dismantles the 'Loser's Fallacy,' a trap for primary breadwinners who mistakenly believe they're hemorrhaging assets and parental time in divorce settlements. O...
Revealing Myths & Realities of Family Court 05.01.2024 50:01
Join us as we unravel the complexities of family court with the insight of Stephanie, a TikTok sensation and domestic violence attorney from New York. Listen in as she shares her unexpected journey into the field of family law and uncovers the stark realities facing domestic violence victims within the legal system. Our conversation sheds light on the essential need for specialized domestic violen...
Secrets for Protecting Children During High-Conflict Divorce 04.01.2024 50:04
Have you ever considered the silent battles children face in the shadow of high-conflict marriage and divorce? We're joined by esteemed New York family lawyer Dennis Vetrano as we explore the deep, often unseen impact of domestic disharmony on the youngest members of the family. In a candid conversation, we peel back the layers of the psychological effects that parental discord can have on ch...
Challenging Assumptions: Rethinking Domestic Violence Legislation 02.01.2024 20:47
When Texas State Representative Lacey Hull stepped out of the voting booth and into the halls of influence, she brought with her a fierce resolve to tackle domestic violence in a way the Lone Star State has never seen. In this episode, Lisa talks with Lacey - a mother turned political force - about the introduction of coercive control legislation in Texas. Our conversation delves into the importan...
Personal Safety & Legal Complications in Abusive Relationships 29.12.2023 43:41
Unlock the truths behind safety and domestic violence as we sit down with Steve Dana, founder and CEO of Protection from Abuse, who brings his invaluable expertise to the table. We dissect the alarming trend of victims underestimating their risk and delve into the life-saving significance of risk assessments that can recalibrate victims' understanding of their own perilous situations. Our con...
Empowerment in Adversity: Insights on Abusive Relationships 27.12.2023 29:15
Have you ever wondered what invisible chains keep someone tethered to an abusive partner, despite the dangers? Our conversation with Dennis Vetrano, a NY divorce lawyer with twenty years in family law, offers a profound look behind the curtain of these harrowing situations. Dennis navigates the complexities of cultural and societal pressures that often confine victims to harmful marriages, sheddin...
Collaboration: A Surprising Solution in High-Conflict Divorce 26.12.2023 1:00:27
Are the battle lines of divorce really set in stone? Micki McWade, a collaborative divorce professional and social worker, joins us to shatter this myth, revealing a world where collaboration triumphs over confrontation. With a wealth of experience spanning two decades, she shares the intricacies of the collaborative divorce process, a strategy that brings together lawyers, mental health experts,...
Protect Your Children's Mental Health During High-Conflict Divorce 23.12.2023 57:40
Join us as we welcome Dr. Jill Leibowitz, an esteemed New York City psychologist, for a candid discussion on the complexities of high-conflict divorce and its ripple effects on children. Dr. Leibowitz offers a unique perspective on the role of a therapist in these challenging scenarios, emphasizing the importance of advocating for the child's needs over the parents'. Throughout the conve...
Weathering the Storm: High-Conflict Co-Parenting and Blended Families 21.12.2023 55:04
Ever wondered about surviving high-conflict co-parenting situations in blended families? We're unraveling this complex challenge, alongside the inspiring Marit from Blended Family Frappé, who shares her insights on how step-parents often find themselves advocating for boundaries and resources amidst the chaotic new roles they assume. In this enlightening conversation, she sheds light on the p...
Navigating Triggers and Trauma in High-Conflict Divorces 18.12.2023 51:21
Get ready to navigate the turbulent waters of triggers and trauma within the family court system , guided by our guest, Leslie Miller , a seasoned psychotherapist and coach. Learn why court involvement can be so triggering and the profound impact it can have on our health. As we unravel the complexities of trauma, we draw parallels with the court involvement, such as the unsettling loss of control...
Unmasking Financial Fraud in Divorce with Certified Fraud Examiner James Peet 16.12.2023 49:41
Get ready to shatter the mystery of financial deception in divorce cases with our guest James Peet, a Certified Fraud Examiner. James, a former police officer turned financial fraud detective, brings to light how ignorance of your financial details can lead to the concealment of assets in relationships. As we delve into this revelation, you'll gain insights into the financial dynamics in part...
Overcoming Legal Obstacles: Navigating Minority Challenges in Family Law 14.12.2023 48:48
We're thrilled to have Asia Scarlett-Jones, a seasoned NYC family law attorney, share her unique insights about minority challenges in the legal system. Drawing from her own experiences, Asia speaks candidly about the glaring lack of diversity in the court system and its repercussions on minority families, particularly the ones grappling with language barriers. We also tackle the pertinent is...
How to Save Time, Money, and Stress While Protecting Your Kids Throughout the Divorce Process - with NY Attorney Joy Rosenthal 02.09.2023 43:40
BTGO welcomes back our friend, NY attorney, mediator, and CUNY law professor, Joy Rosenthal (Instagram @joymediator), who talks about a child's perspective when parents separate, what you need to know about at the beginning of the divorce process, and how to shield your kids from the conflict as much as you can. She also has a course on this topic! Our book, “Been There Got Out: Toxic Relatio...
Moving Forward with Renewed Minds - with Modupe Ladipo 30.08.2023 18:15
BTGO welcomes our UK friend, narcissistic abuse survivor, and founder of Renewed Minds (Instagram @therenewedminds), Modupe Ladipo (Instagram @mladipo), who talks about how abuse is a human issue, not a gender issue, why storytelling can be so helpful in the healing process, and why it is also so important for your career to move forward from trauma. Our book, “Been There Got Out: Toxic Relationsh...
How Mediation Can Help You Take Your Power Back (And What to Look For in a Great Mediator) - with Joy Rosenthal 29.08.2023 46:48
BTGO welcomes our friend, NY lawyer, CUNY professor, and expert mediator Joy Rosenthal (Instagram @joymediator) who talks about the most important qualities in a mediator and why - especially when you're dealing with a high-conflict personality - the needs of the kids should be the top priority, and what "presumptive ADR" means in the process, so you can show you've done everyt...
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