Chris & Lisa
Been There Got Out Podcast
Chris and Lisa of BeenThereGotOut.com both survived toxic marriages with narcissistic partners and the legal and co-parenting nightmares that go hand-in-hand with all of that. If you are struggling in a high-conflict relationship, divorce, custody battle, or co-parenting hell which requires PERSONALIZED attention, let us HOLD YOUR HAND along the way, while providing EXPERT, STRATEGIC guidance based on one's years of success (representing myself in court!), coupled with the other's High Conflict Divorce Coach certification. Our podcast features interviews with lawyers, therapists, co-parenting...
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Chris & Lisa
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Jun 25, 2026
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Episodes
Can a High-Conflict Divorce be Settled in Mediation? (Spoiler Alert: YES!) 01.04.2024 46:16
It's one thing to navigate the choppy waters of divorce, but quite another to emerge with familial bonds intact. In a heart-to-heart with seasoned mediator and CUNY Law professor Joy Rosenthal, we peel back the layers of family law mediation, uncovering the delicate art of maintaining connections in the wake of separation. Our conversation is a deep dive into the dynamics of difficult persona...
Triumph Over Narcissism: A Daughter's Tale of Resilience & Healing 29.03.2024 42:41
Growing up under the shadow of a narcissistic parent can shape your world in unimaginable ways, and that's a reality Adrienne knows all too well. Her story, which she graciously shares with us, isn't just about the struggles and the scars — it's also about the resilience and personal triumph that can emerge from such adversity. She digs deep into her past to unravel the complexities...
I Was Falsely Arrested! (and Lived to Tell About it) - with Tracy Malone 27.03.2024 45:45
The sting of betrayal and the weight of false accusations can leave scars that are both unseen and deeply felt. That's the heart of our latest conversation with Tracy Malone, a renowned expert on narcissistic abuse. Tracy doesn't just recount her story; she paints a vivid picture of manipulation and the legal entanglements that can ensnare the most unsuspecting of victims. Her insight in...
Guiding Children Through Divorce with Compassion 25.03.2024 57:58
Discover the keys to guiding your children with compassion through the seismic shifts of divorce, as we converse with the distinguished team of Dr. Wayne and Dr. Barb. Our discussion sheds light on how parents can tend to their emotional landscape even as they steward their children through these trying times. Dr. Wayne, harnessing his extensive background in teaching and mindfulness, offers profo...
The Legal Journey of IVF: Understanding Embryo Custody 22.03.2024 22:38
Unlock the complexities of reproductive rights and IVF in the context of custody cases as we join forces with Jacob Schuman, an expert embryologist whose mastery of the field guides us through the maze of embryo disputes when couples part ways. Our candid conversation sheds light on what happens to those tiny potential lives amidst the turmoil of divorce, underlining the monumental significance of...
Infants & Parenting Plans: Breastfeeding, Embryos, & the Unique Issues of Babies in Divorce 20.03.2024 43:46
Unlock the complexities of family law as we navigate the sensitive terrain of parenting plans for newborns and infants with California's seasoned family law attorney, Brian Pakpour. Delve into the seismic shifts affecting pregnant women contemplating separation, including the constitutional implications of the Roe v. Wade overturn and the intricate balance between a child's right to dual...
"I Just Want This Done!" - Keeping Your Sanity & Savings with Attorney Raiford Palmer 18.03.2024 59:12
Steer your divorce towards a resolution without draining your wallet OR your well-being, as veteran Chicago area family lawyer Raiford Palmer joins us. Raiford brings his extensive knowledge to the forefront, dissecting the common blunders that often drag out the divorce process. We explore the dangers of enlisting overly combative legal representation, the pitfalls of poor communication, and the...
Understanding Supervised Visitation: Expert Insights 15.03.2024 41:15
Unlock the truth behind supervised visitation with our guest, Diana Canas, a seasoned expert in the field with a quarter-century of experience. Diana decodes the complexities of this protective measure, emphasizing its role in safeguarding children and parents alike from undue stress and false allegations during custody disputes. By providing a neutral observation ground, supervised visitation ser...
Unveiling Hidden Agendas in Love and Deceit 13.03.2024 51:43
Unlock the mysteries of narcissistic abuse and the entanglement of toxic relationships with the insightful California-based therapist Rebecca Ishida. Together, we dissect the art of deception, specifically focusing on the subtle yet destructive act of lying by omission and its prevalence in those living double lives. As we unravel our personal encounters with ex-partners and the deceptive calm bef...
Rediscovering Joy and Creativity Following Divorce 11.03.2024 35:38
Stepping into the world of divorce within the Hispanic community can feel like navigating a labyrinth blindfolded, but our latest guest, TikTok star and relationship guru Rudy (@rude_advice), brings a torch to the darkness. Rudy candidly opens up about his own voyage through the end of his marriage, revealing both the heartaches and the triumphs. Together, we explore the realities of dismantling l...
Expert Advice for Home Loans in Divorce 07.03.2024 34:58
Discover the invaluable wisdom mortgage expert Liz Reese brings to the table as she tackles the financial upheaval of divorce and its impact on the mortgage landscape. In a poignant conversation, we navigate the treacherous waters of divorce financials, from the ripple effects on loan structures to the pivotal role of alimony and child support in mortgage qualifications. Our deep dive with Liz ill...
Nurturing Resilience in Children Through High-Conflict Divorce 05.03.2024 39:54
Unlock the secrets to guiding your children through the storm of divorce with the wisdom of Dr. Wayne and Dr. Barb in our latest heartfelt discussion. We delve into the world of non-toxic parenting amidst the chaos of separation, providing a beacon of stability for your little ones when they need it most. Our guests bring to light the power of love, communication, and emotional intelligence, ensur...
The Authenticity of Struggle in Fiction with Author Julie Clark 02.03.2024 33:22
Unlock the secrets of resilience and empowerment as we sit down with Julie Clark, bestselling author of "The Last Flight" and "The Lies I Tell." Julie's novels, bursting with themes of survival and self-discovery, take us on a journey through the lives of women who transform from victims into architects of their own liberating plots. Our conversation with Julie delves into...
Why NOT to Stay "for the Kids" 29.02.2024 33:43
Join us for a heartfelt and eye-opening discussion as Chris and Lisa explore the unsettling truths about the effects of abusive relationships on children. With insights from our seminar on the Top Seven Dangers of Toxic Relationships, we unravel the complexities behind why some individuals might choose to stay in these harmful environments under the belief that it's for their children's...
Navigating High-Conflict Co-Parenting in Adolescent Therapy 27.02.2024 48:46
Join us as we sit down with Sara Mathews Dixon, an expert in adolescent therapy with a wealth of experience from psychiatric hospitals to private practice. Listen in as we explore Sara's commitment to social work and her extraordinary 24/7 availability to clients, a testament to her dedication in preventing crises and supporting families through challenging times. We discuss her psychodynamic...
Actress to Activist: Vanessa Dimitropoulos on Confronting Abuse 24.02.2024 56:08
Vanessa Dimitropoulos' journey hasn't been a walk in the park, but rather a raw and riveting march through adversity and triumph. From the highs of lighting up the screen in "The Walking Dead" to the profound pivot into the trenches of advocacy against narcissistic abuse, Vanessa opens up about personal hardships and victory over psychological warfare. The conversation is a pie...
Cracking Down on Tech Vulnerabilities 22.02.2024 51:07
Unlock the secrets of cybersecurity and personal safety with Greg Glassock, the seasoned CEO of Olympic Tactical, as he joins us for an enthralling conversation that dives deep into the shadowy corners of digital vulnerabilities. Whether you're intrigued by the risks associated with wired smoke alarms, or you're battling the unease of a hacked phone, Greg's compelling blend of profe...
Amplifying Childrens' Voices in High-Conflict Divorce 20.02.2024 1:05:40
Unlock the complexities of how children's voices shape family court outcomes as we delve into their critical role amidst legal battles. Through experience advocating for children's interests, this episode peels back the curtain on the often adversarial family court system. We shine a spotlight on the nuanced methods that ensure kids are more than heard; they are truly listened to and und...
Advocating for Family Court Overhaul with Trevor Crow 17.02.2024 25:11
Marriage and family therapist Trevor Crow steps into the political spotlight with a heartfelt commitment to reform family courts, combat domestic violence, and address emotional abuse. As she shares her journey towards a state senate seat, Trevor unravels the complexities of these deep societal issues and the urgency of having advocates in governmental positions who truly grasp their impact on bot...
Legal Negotiation Mastery with Rebecca Zung 15.02.2024 54:18
When life handed Rebecca Zung the challenge of juggling law school by night with raising three children, she didn't just rise to the occasion—she soared, transforming her career from a dedicated teacher to a high-powered family law attorney and negotiation strategist. In her magnetic presence, we uncover her compelling narrative, debunking myths that her expertise in dealing with narcissists...
The Child's Voice in High-Conflict Divorce & Co-Parenting 13.02.2024 54:26
Embark on a journey of transformation with Nicolle Kopping-Pavars, a former children's lawyer who's traded the gavel for guiding others toward inner peace. Our conversation unveils the often unseen emotional landscape navigated by children amid family legal battles. Nicolle's shift from the courtroom to mindfulness coaching lays bare the raw truths of advocacy and the critical impor...
Unmasking Character Disturbances: Expert Insights with Dr. George K. Simon 10.02.2024 33:34
Explore the often-misunderstood realm of "character disturbances" with Dr. George K. Simon, a formidable authority with over four decades of expertise in psychology. In this episode, we tackle the complexities distinguishing character issues from narcissism, providing you with the tools to recognize subtle but significant red flags in relationships. Dr. Simon brings his deep knowledge to...
A New Chapter in Canadian Law for Family Violence Victims 08.02.2024 29:29
When the gavel struck, marking a new era for victims of family violence in Ontario, it also echoed a victory for the underdog — a self-represented litigant triumphing in court. That's the incredible story we unravel with Sean Valentine from the Family Law Coach, analyzing a landmark legal ruling that now recognizes family violence as a tort in Canada. Our probing conversation exposes the shif...
Winning Strategies: Mastering the Art of Legal Persuasion in Family Court 06.02.2024 33:00
Navigating the treacherous waters of family court can be a harrowing ordeal, and in this episode, Bill Farias — a seasoned family law attorney — joins us to chart a course through these tumultuous legal seas. Together, we dissect the critical role of representation and advocate for the voiceless, unraveling the nuanced challenges of enforcing court orders. Our conversation reveals the stark realit...
The Journey to Victory in a Legal Marathon 03.02.2024 43:50
Could you withstand an eight-year odyssey through the labyrinth of the family legal system? Imagine transforming perceived defeats into the bedrock of your victory. Join us as we unravel Lisa's personal saga, taking you through the highs and lows of a grueling legal battle and the resilience required to persevere. The episode sheds light on the complexities of post-separation abuse, specifica...
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