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Ep. 211 Meet the Contributors In this episode we meet three of our contributors Jared Duymovic, Wallace Thomas, and Jacob Deaton.  Listen to hear a little more about their backgrounds and why they want to be a part of the podcast.  Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Ofrin

Ep. 210 How We Arrived Here In this first episode of the “Season 2” of the podcast, Josh is recapping how we got here.  The 4 years of work put in by himself along with the original podcast hosts.  Josh talks about his  process over the past 10 weeks to get to where we are now with moving in a new direction with the podcast.  He introduces his new Co Producer Jared Duymovic and let’s Jared speak t...

Ep 209 – Rewind  - Ep. 56 Sara Morgulis: Accessibility Isn’t a Checklist Following Episode 200, The following 9 episodes will be replays of episodes that had points or quotes that stuck with the pod squad over the last nearly 4 years.  .  Danielle and Katie take time this week to talk with Sara Morgulis about theatre for young audiences. Sara talks about what TYA/USA does, the organization’s growt...

Ep 208 – Rewind  - Ep. 42 Mason Moss: Be Undeniable Following Episode 200, The following 9 episodes will be replays of episodes that had points or quotes that stuck with the pod squad over the last nearly 4 years.  .  In this episode our hosts learn some new (and old) theatre terms in what was definitely not a game and Kevin sits down with Mason Moss. Mason talks about how he got started touring w...

Ep 207 – Rewind  - Ep. 41 Jeremy Davis and Clay Johnson: Visionaries and Integrators Following Episode 200, The following 9 episodes will be replays of episodes that had points or quotes that stuck with the pod squad over the last nearly 4 years.  .  In this episode our hosts discuss pivotal moments that that led to their careers. Josh and Bryan sit down with Jeremy Davis and Clay Johnson of The F...

Ep 206 – Rewind  - Ep. 39 Andre Bouchard: Erasing Invisibility of Indigenous People Following Episode 200, The following 9 episodes will be replays of episodes that had points or quotes that stuck with the pod squad over the last nearly 4 years.  .  In this episode our hosts explore what their own states do or do not have in place from a systemic standpoint for the acknowledgement of Indigenous Pe...

Ep 205 – Rewind  - Ep. 33 Adia Morris Swanger: Show Up in Places Where People Don’t Expect You Following Episode 200, The following 9 episodes will be replays of episodes that had points or quotes that stuck with the pod squad over the last nearly 4 years.  .  Adia Morris Swanger sits down with Kevin to talk about the business skills needed in the arts and what Springboard for the Arts is doing to...

Ep 204 – Rewind  - Ep. 22 Dominic Moore-Dunson: Defining Success Following Episode 200, The following 9 episodes will be replays of episodes that had points or quotes that stuck with the pod squad over the last nearly 4 years.   On this episode, our hosts talk about safety leading into Danielle’s engaging conversation with Dominic Moore-Dunson. Dominic shares his creative process, including his pe...

Ep 203 – Rewind  - Ep. 20 Michael Mushalla: Be Curious. Don’t Be Afraid. Following Episode 200, The following 9 episodes will be replays of episodes that had points or quotes that stuck with the pod squad over the last nearly 4 years.  .  This week's episode is another special one! It highlights Michael Mushalla who introduced our hosts and helped us all think differently about what comes next.  M...

Ep 202  – Rewind  - Ep. 5 Max Darwin: Magic and Mental Health Following Episode 200, The following 9 episodes will be replays of episodes that had points or quotes that stuck with the pod squad over the last nearly 4 years.  .  We talk about our origin stories on this episode, and Katie has a heartfelt conversation with our friend, Max Darwin, about creating a magic show, hard work, empathy, and m...

Ep 201 – Rewind  Ep. 1 Gail Boyd: Follow Your Bliss   Following Episode 200, our next 9 episodes will be replays of episodes that had points or quotes that stuck with the pod squad over the last nearly 4 years.  If you missed the big news in episode 200, Katie, Danielle, Bryan, and Kevin  are taking a step back and will not be a regular part of the podcast as it moves forward.    It’s finally here...

Ep. 200 So Long to Season One This week the Quad Producers gather to host and celebrate episode 200! We play games, laugh, share our favorite advice and moments from the show, and reflect on what this journey has meant to us. We also share some major podcast updates - and be sure to listen all the way to the end! Your hosts and producers are Bryan Zellmer, Josh Benson, Kevin Maynard, Katie Trzaska...

Ep. 199 Ryan VanDenBoom: Mentorship Is the Key This week Broadway veteran Ryan VanDenBoom shares his professional journey with Katie, including behind-the-scenes stories of his time with Annie, Something Rotten, Hamilton, and MJ the Musical. Katie and Ryan talk about the complexities of a show like MJ the Musical, Ryan’s artistic relationship with Broadway choreographer and director Andy Blankenbu...

Ep 198 Emma Orme – Under the Radar – Nobody Knows What They Are Doing, So Ask Questions. This week Kevin and Josh continue with the Under the Radar Series by sitting down with Emma Orme, Producer of Reconstructing by The Team and Friday Night Rat Catchers by Lisa Fagan and Lena Engelstein; both a part of the 2026 Under the Radar Festival.  In this episode we discuss the role of producer specific t...

Ep. 197 Olivia Aston Bosworth: Reveling in the Magic Katie sits down this week with Olivia Aston Bosworth of TYA/USA and the Alliance Theatre in Atlanta, GA. Katie checks in with Olivia on the most recent TYA/USA Annual Festival and Conference, learns about the fantastic programming at the Alliance Theatre, and discusses the breadth of opportunity for creatives and audiences in the Theater for You...

Ep. 196 AI: A Tool or the End of the Artist   Josh, Katie, and Danielle take some time to discuss Real world use of AI as an administrative tool.  We also discuss and discover ways that we have been using AI without advertently intending to.  We remain hopeful that it remains a tool, but also express a fair amount of skepticism of what capitalism will do with it. Share your thoughts with our on ou...

Ep. 195 Joshua Holden: Puppets and Whoopi Goldberg The podcast hosts its first puppeteer this week as Joshua Holden joins Katie for a thoroughly delightful conversation! They explore what it takes to be a puppeteer, how to make the most of a conference showcase as an artist, and discuss Josh’s experiences on Broadway and Sesame Street. Yes, Sesame Street! Joshua Holden is a New York City-based pup...

Ep. 194 The Michigan Maven, Katie Trzaska-Miller This week Kevin checks in with Katie and gets an update on two years of Michigan Maven Creative Associates. We find out what she has been working on, what drives her, and the challenging nature of balancing it all. You can learn more and contact Katie at MichiganMaven.art Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions – https:...

Ep. 193 Who is the Meet and Greet For? This week Danielle wants to know more about the logistics of meet and greets, as her venue prepares for a style of meet and greet with an artist they haven’t facilitated before. We get into the questions of who they are for, how artists and venues can mutually benefit, and how to make the experience great for all parties involved. Follow us on social media an...

Ep. 192 Building a Culture of Care Josh recently had a visit from Friend of the Pod Todd Wetzel (Ep. 162), who is currently cycling across America – and he inspired this week’s conversation about the importance of taking time off, rest, and instilling that in our personal and organizational cultures. Todd Wetzel’s Journey Across the Trans American Bike Trail can be followed at https://www.crazyguy...

Ep. 191 Connecting the Dots Through NAPAMA This week we join Josh, Kevin Peters, and Spring Karlo in Tucson, AZ from the 2026 NAPAMA Retreat. We learn about the history of NAPAMA, the collaborative role it plays in the industry, and the unique aspects of the annual retreat. NAPAMA (North American Performing Arts Managers & Agents) is an organization of agents, managers, self-represented artist...

Ep.190 Amanda Cooper – Under The Radar: If you don’t know who to ask – Ask Me. This week we bring our next episode in our Under the Radar Series. Kevin and Josh sit down with Producer Amanda L. Cooper. Amanda was producer for Sunny Jain’s “Love Force” at Symphony Space as part of the 2026 Under the Radar Festival. We learn about Amanda’s background, her process as a producer, and further how she c...

Ep.189 New Jobs, Real Talk This week we check in with Kevin and Bryan on how their new gigs are going, and discuss transitioning to new jobs, integrating with staff, creating positive workplace culture, and lessons in leadership. It’s a valuable conversation for anyone considering a move or taking on a new challenge. Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions – https://l...

Ep. 188 State of the Arts: Pacific Northwest This week Katie sits down with leaders from Arts Northwest and the Oregon Arts Commission to learn more about what’s happening beyond the Rocky Mountains. We get a vibe check on the scene and explore some of the challenges these organizations are addressing in the region. Amy Lewin is the director of the Oregon Arts Commission and Oregon Cultural Trust...

NBL Rewind: Broadway’s Biggest Night – Voting for the Tonys The Tony Award nominations for 2026 just dropped, so we are rewinding back to our Tony episode from 2025. The lights are bright on Broadway as Katie and Josh learn all about the Tony Awards from Broadway producer Rashad Chambers and the Wharton Center’s Eric Olmscheid, who both serve as Tonys voters. We discuss seeing 42 shows in a season...