The Next-Level Income Show

Everyone says office is dead. Ash Patel, managing partner of Invest Beyond Multifamily, sees one of the best buying opportunities in commercial real estate instead. On this episode of the Next Level Income Show, Ash shares how one building, and one tenant who paid to replace its entire HVAC system, turned him from a residential landlord into a full-time commercial investor. He and Chris talk about...

You did everything you were supposed to do. So why aren't you happy? Naga Das helps leaders transcend trauma and find peace and purpose, and her new book, Dying to Live: Finding Peace and Purpose Through Pain, tells the story of how she found her own. On this episode of the Next Level Income Show, Naga shares her journey from homelessness to a Harvard education and a crypto hedge fund, and how fea...

Even highly capable leaders can become overwhelmed, lose focus, and begin second-guessing their decisions. Warren Wandling is a keynote speaker, leadership coach, and communication expert with more than 25 years of experience training leaders in the public, private, and government sectors. He is also the founder and host of the How to Become an Obstacle Buster podcast. On this episode of the Next...

In 2009, Chris asked his insurance agent whether to fund an investment from the bank or from his life insurance policy. The agent said it didn't matter. That answer cost Chris six figures. On this episode of the Next Level Income Show, Chris shares a special presentation from the Money Insights Investment Insider series, hosted by Blake Brogan and Rod Zabriskie. He walks through the system he has...

Kim Lisa Taylor is a nationally recognized corporate securities attorney and the founder of Syndication Attorneys. She and her team have created nearly $5 billion in securities offerings for hundreds of syndicators, fund managers, and small business owners. On this episode of the Next Level Income Show, Kim joins Chris to walk passive investors through the legal side of a real estate syndication....

Most people treat taxes as a once-a-year, filing-season problem. Davis Oliver of Taxes Saved joins Chris to explain why Q4, not April, is when real tax planning happens, and why most CPAs never bring it up in the first place: their job is compliance and filing, not proactive strategy. On this episode of the Next Level Income Show, Davis and Chris cover how W-2 employees, not just business owners,...

Krisstina Wise built a multi-million dollar business, and then her body shut down. About 95% of the way through a keynote in front of 500 people, she froze on stage completely: a stress stroke, brought on by years of running on scarcity and fear. Within 48 hours she couldn't get out of bed, and stayed there for two years while her business fell apart, kept afloat only by real estate investments sh...

Maria Brito has spent 17 years advising private collectors on art, facilitating over $200 million in transactions along the way. Before art, she was a corporate attorney who graduated Harvard Law School after immigrating from Venezuela, working 20-hour days at a New York law firm before deciding it wasn't the life she wanted. On this episode of the Next Level Income Show, Maria joins Chris to make...

Todd Dexheimer started as a high school teacher making $30,000 a year. In 2008 he bought his first foreclosures because the math worked, even when everyone around him said he was crazy to buy into a crashing market. On this episode of the Next Level Income Show, Todd joins Chris to make the case that bigger deals are actually easier to buy and run than small ones, and walks through the senior hous...

Every day, 11,000 Americans turn 65, and roughly 1 in 10 of them owns a business with no plan for what happens next. On this episode of the Next Level Income Show, Chris Larsen sits down with Kris Benson, Partner at Blue Line Ventures, to unpack the largest transfer of small business ownership in U.S. history: an estimated 8 to 10 million businesses expected to change hands over the next decade. K...

One thing about the current real estate cycle caught me off guard, and today I'm breaking down exactly what I found. For years I've tracked where we are in the roughly 18.6 year real estate cycle: seven years up, a mid-cycle slowdown, another seven years up, then a four year reset. That pattern has held since the 1850s. But when you overlay inflation on top of housing prices, the picture changes....

More than a decade ago, Tim Delaney bought his first small business, a fifty-year-old wine and liquor store in Buffalo, NY, with almost no experience and very little cash down. Today he owns that store and the plaza it sits in, and he helps other people do the same. In this episode, Tim joins Chris to break down exactly how he structured those two deals, including negotiating 90% seller financing...

What separates wealthy investors from the middle class when it comes to building long term financial success? In this episode, Lane Kawaoka shares the mindset, strategies, and investment principles that have helped him build a real estate portfolio of more than 10,000 units across the United States while helping thousands of investors create passive income without the challenges of active property...

Building wealth is about much more than finding the right investment opportunity. Long term financial success is rooted in mindset, supported by strong systems, and sustained through meaningful relationships. In this episode Chris sits down with seasoned real estate investor, advisor, and educator Christina Suter to discuss how creating the right foundation can help anyone achieve financial freedo...

What if you approached your health the same way a successful CEO runs a thriving business? Every decision matters, every system works together, and long term success depends on consistent leadership rather than quick fixes. In this episode, Chris sits down with human performance expert Justin Roethlingshoefer to discuss what it truly means to become the CEO of your own health. With more than 20 ye...

When most people think about retirement investing, they picture traditional stocks, bonds, and mutual funds. But what if your retirement account could be used to invest in real estate, private equity, private lending, or other alternative assets? In this episode Chris sits down with Nicole Capurso and Jason Prezant from Madison Trust Company to explore how Self-Directed IRAs are changing the way i...

Resilience is often forged in life’s most difficult moments. For Nick Prefontaine, a devastating snowboarding accident at just 14 years old became the defining event that transformed his perspective on life, success, and personal growth. In this inspiring episode of the Next Level Income Podcast, Nick shares how he overcame unimaginable challenges and turned tragedy into a mission to help others u...

In this episode of the Next Level Income Podcast, we explore the future of precious metals, the role of sound money, and the opportunities investors should be watching in today’s evolving financial landscape. David Morgan, a globally recognized precious metals analyst, consultant, and publisher of The Morgan Report, shares his insights on where gold and silver may be headed and what investors need...

Success is often measured by achievements, income, and recognition. But for Derek Peterson, the true definition of success was discovered when he realized that achievement without freedom comes with a hidden cost. In this episode of the Next Level Income Podcast, Derek shares the powerful story of how struggle, reinvention, and intentional living transformed his life from chasing success to creati...

The real estate market is constantly changing, and successful investors understand that the ability to adapt is one of the most valuable skills they can develop. In this episode of the Next Level Income Podcast, I sit down with Chris Prefontaine, Chairman and Founder of Smart Real Estate Coach®, to discuss how creative financing strategies can help investors build wealth and find opportunities reg...

Building wealth is about more than simply acquiring assets. True financial success comes from having a clear framework, making disciplined decisions, and creating a legacy that extends beyond your lifetime. In this episode of the Next Level Income Podcast, Chris Larsen sits down with investor, entrepreneur, Certified Money Coach®, and bestselling author Gino Barbaro to discuss how he built a real...

Achieving financial freedom is a goal that many people strive for, but what comes after reaching that milestone? In this episode of the Next Level Income, Chris Larsen explores Chapter 5 of his journey to financial independence: transitioning from financial freedom to creating generational wealth. While financial freedom allows individuals to live life on their own terms, generational wealth exten...

Chris Larsen dives into one of the most important principles of building long term wealth: investing for cash flow instead of relying solely on appreciation. As part of the ongoing “How to Be Financially Free by Forty” series, Chapter 4 focuses on creating predictable income streams that can support financial independence and reduce reliance on active employment income. Chris brings decades of rea...

Building wealth is not only about how much money you make. It is also about how much money you keep and how strategically you position your assets for long term growth. In this episode of the Next Level Income Podcast, Chris Larsen dives into Chapter 3 of the “How to Be Financially Free by Forty” series, focusing on one of the most overlooked pillars of financial success: tax strategy and entity s...

The commercial real estate market is going through one of its most significant shifts in decades. Rising interest rates, tighter lending standards, and changing investor expectations have created both uncertainty and opportunity across the industry. In this episode of the Next Level Income Podcast, we sit down with Jake Clopton, founder of Clopton Capital, to discuss how debt markets are evolving...