That Relationship Show

Deb and Nao define what they mean by culture, and explore its impact on couples. From race to religion to families of origin, the cultures we belong to play an important role in the way we see the world. Though we may not share these things with our partner, we do need their sensitivity and understanding when cultural issues arise. Dr. Robert Allen talks with Deb and Nao about how couples can conn...

Deb and Nao define and discuss the origins of Borderline Personality Disorder, which can feel devastating to relationships for everyone involved. Their guest is clinical psychologist Karin Wagenaar, the first EFT trainer in Europe, who joined them from Holland where she helped create an innovative program that uses EFT as part of its treatment of this complex disorder.

Deb and Nao welcome Dr. Patricia Papernow, stepparent, psychologist, author and expert on the subject of stepfamilies. Dr. Papernow discusses the inherent challenges that adults and children face, explains why the notion of blending ought apply to smoothies and not families, and offers the best tools for second-family couples to maintain connection to each other, their children and stepchildren wh...

With suicide rates on the increase locally and around the world, Deb & Nao seek the expertise of Kirk Woodring to help understand this tragic phenomenon. Kirk is the Chief Clinical Officer of the Brattleboro Retreat, a lecturer at Smith College and the author of books about suicide. We discover the importance of connection as a protective factor against suicide.

Deb and Nao tackle the timely topic of narcissism. Deb interviews Dr. Craig Malkin, psychologist, expert and author of the book Rethinking Narcissism on how narcissism develops, impacts relationships and can be addressed using an attachment-based approach like EFT. Dr. Malkin explains how to tell when loving a narcissist has hit a dead-end.

In this informative and moving episode, psychologist Dr. Shiri Cohen takes us inside the lives of soldiers and the people who love them, as they adjust to family life post-deployment. A certified EFT therapist and clinician working with the Home Base foundation in Boston, Dr. Cohen has the compassion and expertise to enlighten us about the many challenges these brave men and women face, and the po...

Traumatic events, whether in childhood or adulthood leave an indelible mark on us as individuals. It turns out they can also wreak havoc on our relationships. Deb and Nao offer different definitions of trauma, including a few that may surprise listeners. They welcome renowned specialist Dr. Kathryn Rheem, ICEEFT certified trainer who brings a wealth of information about how EFT can help couples im...

Addiction hurts everyone in its path---from the person who uses to everyone who cares about them. Yet "tough love" approaches have not proven effective. In this episode we welcome from Atlanta Certified EFT trainer Michael Barnett LPC, who has years of experience treating couples and treating addiction. He weaves these together with EFT to create a gentle, respectful model that promotes healing fo...

In this episode, Deb & Nao enlist the help of experts Mike Moran and Dr. Zoya Simakhodskaya to tackle what can be one of the most difficult topics for couples to discuss---sex. With certifications in sex therapy and years of helping couples and training therapists between them, these NYC-based therapists provide answers to some of the most-asked questions on this topic. Dr. Zoya and Mike offer hop...

From the dizzying exuberance of infatuation to the deep comfort of long-term companionship, Deb and Nao explore different aspects of love. They interview Certified EFT therapist and Supervisor, Nancy Knudsen. Nancy has facilitated numerous EFT couples weekend workshops, and co-created one called Hold Me Tight, Hold Me Just Right. She describes the possibilities for deepening connection in these wo...

In this episode, Deb & Nao talk with renowned EFT therapist and international trainer Jim Thomas about the complex issue of addiction, and the devastating impact it has on relationships. Through his engaging style and 30+ years of experience, Jim offers hope and healing to couples and families impacted by addiction.

In this episode, Deb & Nao welcome renowned EFT therapist and trainer Dr. Rebecca Jorgensen to discuss the enormous impact that shame can have on individuals and relationships. Dr. Becca offers wisdom and hope for those who are impacted by the pain and loneliness that shame brings.

In this episode, Deb and Nao answer the question a lot of couples ask: "When will we be done with therapy?" They discuss the link between close relationships and outside stressors, making the case for EFT as a protective factor for our overall health.

In this episode, Deb and Nao talk about triggers and how they impact relationships, often making communication difficult. They link triggers--which are the symptom, to core struggles--which are the root of the negative cycle. Using role plays, they illustrate how core struggles fuel arguments, and how understanding them can help couples step out of the negative cycle and into connection.

In this episode, Deb and Nao welcome EFT trainer Jill Fischer, who answers the tough questions that betrayed partners most frequently ask after an affair. They then tackle the question of why people choose to engage in these kinds of breaches.

In this episode, Deb and Nao talk about pursuing, adding context to deepen understanding. Nao interviews Marriage and Family Therapist Dee Emerson Clancy, who gives us insight into what is behind the pursuer's actions. Ideas are given for how both the pursuer and withdrawer can make small changes to step out of the negative cycle.

Deb and Nao talk about different kinds of breaches, and introduce what for many couples is the most painful---infidelity. They talk with Sandra Taylor, Ph. D., certified supervisor and trainer-in-training from the northwest of England. Dr. Taylor is a founding member of EFT in Great Britain. She provides insight as to why the model doesn't begin to tackle infidelity until couples are deescalated.

In this episode, Deb and Nao interview Psychologist and "recovering" Withdrawer herself, Dr. Laura Craig-Bray. She explains what drives the typical behaviors of Withdrawers, and how their partners can help them re-engage.

Deb and Nao discuss the importance of emotional connection in relationships, some of the roadblocks, and how EFT can help couples navigate emotions successfully.

In this episode, Deb and Nao interview Dr. Pam Alexander, psychologist and Attachment researcher to learn why therapists are always so interested in learning about your childhood. Dr. Alexander explains clearly how our early experiences shape our relationships in adulthood.

Deb and Nao talk about how what starts out so loving and happy can become painful and divisive. They introduce this podcast, where experienced marriage counselors will share what they've learned about forming lasting, loving connections with those who matter most to us.