Sober Not Mature

This week we have... Mike and Bill, doing this thing that they do. Mike started out with something a little different. It was reading, but it was actually from a speech that Dr. Bob gave in Cleveland, in July of 1950. He talked about AA, the simplicity of the program and keeping it that way. He also talked about kindness, consideration and tolerance. It was a great thing to hear and discuss. We ch...

This week we have... Yep, it's us again, Mike and Bill. And buckle up, because we had a lot to talk about. Mike started out with his reading and it was about letting go and hanging on. Which is better and which is worse? Could they be interchangeable? It was a great topic and we had a good conversation. Then we had a brief conversation about John Candy. There is a documentary out now about his...

This week we have... Megan Swan @meganswanwellness She's a fellow Sober Curator and has a few other things going on in her life.  Megan Swan is the founder and CEO of Megan Swan Wellness and Altavita Medical Wellness Tourism, an integrative wellness coach, author, and podcast host who works with high-impact women globally. She champions wellness-alignment as the wave of the future—a non-negoti...

This week we have... Beth McDonough @bemcdn She is a seasoned journalist and investigative reporter whose career spanned some of the nation’s largest television markets, from Houston and Philadelphia to Minneapolis and Missouri. She is also the author of the book Standby. ( On sale now on Amazon ) McDonough says it recounts her public downfall, taking readers behind the headlines of her jail time...

This week we have... Both Mike and Bill again! Mike is back and we had plenty to catch up on. Mike started off with his reading and it was all about faith. Following those that came before us, taking suggestions that didn't make sense to us, acting "as if." It was a good reading and a good conversation. Then we chatted about opinions and trust, the purpose of our lives, judging peopl...

This week we have... Tony H! @a_stoic_sobriety Tony is an IT executive by day and a writer by night, sharing his journey of sobriety through his blog A Stoic Sobriety. With 36 years of sobriety, he focuses on 12-Step recovery principles combined with Stoic Philosophy. Tony offers practical wisdom and encouragement to those seeking freedom from addiction.  Don’t let the Stoicism fool you; he insist...

This week we have... Mike and Bill! Are you surprised? Mike was, so you are not alone. Mike started out with his reading and it was about change and staying fresh in this thing that we do. We act differently, work our program differently and we grow as people. At least we should. It was a good conversation. We also chatted about service work, did we hate what alcohol was doing to us, getting booze...

This week we have... Betty G - @buddha.betty Betty knows what rock bottom looks like. Before 2019 her days were a blur of heroin, street hustle, and heartbreak—with the unthinkable pain of losing both parents to suicide.  Then a single, life-shaking moment changed everything: a near-death-like experience during an overdose that sent her through a cosmic replay of her life, face-to-face with loved...

This week we have... Our good friend Mara @marajsankin from Cleveland and from Episode 94 . (Check out that episode to hear her full story) This time she is with us to talk about what she does for a living and about her new business venture. The episode is all about death, in the best way possible, and Mara explains how it is her mission to help people die with dignity. This is an episode that is...

This week we have... Episode Murder. Yes! It's Episode 187 and This Episode Will Kill You. Or at least make you laugh. Or smile. Or something. Mike started out with his reading and it was about role models and copying what good people do. We needed that when we got sober and had the privilege of having many good role models. Then it was Jamie Lee Curtis, Lost In Space, things we should change,...

Yes! It's a Bonus Clip! This is a clip from Episode 186 and it isolates the readings (yes, he did 2 this week) that Mike did on the episode. Mike did his homework and picked out a couple of readings that fit the "mood" of the week, but more importantly, fit with what we believe and how we feel. If you listen closely, you will hear what he is trying to say. Enjoy the clip. Visit us Po...

This week we have... Mike and Bill, with a lot to talk about. It was a weird week, but it gets sliced up and laid out in the only way that we know how. Mike started out and actually did a couple of readings this week. They were short, but they had a point to them. The main lesson is what we try to live by; Try to make your corner of the world a little better today and there are solutions. Danger M...

This week we have... A change in plans! Yes, we had our good friend Kate scheduled, but there was a technology issue, so you are stuck with Mike and Bill. We will have Kate on a some point though. We promise. Mike started off with his reading and it was about Fear, Faith and Courage. Things scared us in early recovery, and we still get scared, but we have the tools to deal with all of it. And do i...

This week we have... Mike and Bill on Hump Day! Yes, we have plans this weekend, so we recorded early. Not that it matters, but we are telling you either way. Mike kicked things off with his reading and it was about life on life's terms. Things happen (good, bad and indifferent), but how we handle those things is what matters. Do we want to be part of the problem or part of the solution? It was a...

This week we have... First of all, Mike is back! And secondly, it's the Season 7 Finale! Do you care? Just a little? Well, we started our a little punchy, but of course in a fun way. And we had a lot to talk about. Mike was back with his reading and it was a really good one. It was about relationships, both in and out of recovery and it hit home with us. It was a great conversation. Then we did a...

This week we have... Ian Fee ( #ian.fee ) is a successful author, entrepreneur, and the creator of Make It Great (MIG). Proudly sober since 2017, he has dedicated himself to personal growth, family, and living a life of purpose and clarity. His journey from addiction to empowerment has become his mission: to help others trapped in the same cycle of self-destruction break free and embark on their o...

This week we have... Mike and Bill and Mike had an announcement! Yes, you need to listen to hear it. And we had a bit of a technical glitch at about 4 or 5 minutes into into the episode. Just hang in with us, because we worked through it and no. We didn't edit anything. Mike started out with his reading and it was about the pace of life. Before we got sober it was all chaos, intensity and drama. B...

This week we have... The hosts of this fine podcast are back for another week of whatever we feel like talking about. Sober stuff and all the rest. Mike started out with his reading and it was about the Higher Power stuff. Yes, we all need one, but it can be a bit challenging at times, especially in the beginning. We had a good conversation and it was a great reading. We had a nice comment from a...

Yes! It's a Bonus Clip! Everyone is talking about Ozzy, and we are no different. Or are we? This is a clip from Episode 179 and we did this clip to give everyone a bite sized portion of the episode, but yes, you should listen to the whole thing. We had a conversation about Ozzy and his career. Mike is our resident music expert and he has a possibly different view of Ozzy in general, but it's worth...

This week we have... More fun with Mike and Bill. Yep, it's your favorite wacky duo, back at it. Mike started out with his reading and it was about courage and change. Becoming different people in recovery and finally accepting life, truth and consequences. It was a great topic and a good conversation. Our friend Heidi ( Episode 87 ) celebrated 20 years sober this week. It may not always be strawb...

This week we have... Mike and Bill and we are proud to report that neither one of us attended a Cold Play concert this week. For any reason. Mike started out with his reading and it was all about trusting in someone or something other than ourselves. The Higher Power thing and others that have showed us the way. It was a good reading and a good conversation, because that is the backbone of what we...

This week we have... Mike and Bill, back to normal. And we use the word "normal," very loosely. Mike started off with his reading and it was about keeping it simple. It's a common phrase in the recovery community and although it should be "simple," it can be challenging. We had a good conversation. We talked about an AA anniversary, Mary Lou Retton, the history behind John Barleycorn, acting like...

This week we have... Mike and Bill's 4th of July, Freedom Episode. Mike started off with his reading and yes, it was about freedom. During our active addiction, we had no freedom at all. We were ruled by alcohol and drugs and life was a chore. Now we can do what we want, when we want (within reason) and life is far better. Enjoy the freedom. We ranted a bit about podcasters begging for money and u...

Change of plans! This week it's Mike and Bill, your Serene Curmudgeons. We had a connection issue with Kate and we will reschedule her in the next few weeks, so you are stuck with us this week. Mike did his reading and it was about issues and problems and how we look at them these days. Are they really a big deal or do we make them a big deal? We need help with some things and other things just ta...

This week we have... Father Bill W. - Author of "The Power Of Two Way Prayer."  Let's be honest, we had no idea how this episode might go. I mean really. It's a priest and it's us. But... The episode was wonderful. Listen and you will see what we mean. It was a great conversation and he was a great guest. Visit all of his stuff: Podcast - Father Bill W. Podcast Website - Two Way Prayer His Book -...