Probably Most Definitely Overthinking This

Why do we crave validation from others? Why do we care so much about what people think? From childhood praise and wanting to make people proud… to chasing success, relationships, money, followers, and achievements — so many of us spend years looking outside ourselves for proof that we are enough. In this episode, Kami and Melissa dive into the psychology behind why humans seek validation and how t...

Who are you without the mask? The mask of being perfect. The mask of having it all together. The mask of becoming the person everyone else expected you to be. In this episode, we continue our conversation on authenticity and explore the moments when we realized we weren’t always living as ourselves - we were living as the versions we thought we had to become. We talk about confidence, identity, sh...

What does it take to try something new? According to Kami and Melissa... a little bit of delusion. In this episode, we explore why every dream, business, podcast, and big life change starts with believing in something before there is proof it will work. We share stories about imposter syndrome, fear of judgment, looking ridiculous, and taking action long before confidence arrives. Because the trut...

In Episode 11 of Probably Most Definitely Overthinking This , Kami and Melissa explore the emotional weight so many women carry every day—the pressure to achieve more, earn more, give more, and somehow keep everyone happy while doing it. Through personal stories and honest reflection, they discuss people-pleasing, productivity, motherhood, entrepreneurship, self-worth, and the importance of fillin...

Have you ever delayed a decision because you needed one more opinion? In this episode, Kami and Melissa unpack why so many of us struggle to trust ourselves. From business decisions and life changes to relationships, clutter, and personal growth, they explore the ways we seek validation before taking action. The conversation touches on people-pleasing, hyper-independence, emotional maturity, intui...

Is authenticity online actually authentic anymore? In this episode of Probably Most Definitely Overthinking This , Kami and Melissa unpack the blurry line between being genuinely yourself and performing authenticity for an audience. From crying videos and curated vulnerability to viral content, personal branding, and the pressure to always be “real,” this conversation gets honest about what authen...

What if happiness isn’t something you achieve… but something you allow yourself to experience? In this episode, Kami and Melissa unpack the pressure so many of us feel to “finally be happy” once we hit the next goal, make more money, lose the weight, build the business, heal the trauma, or become more confident. But what happens when you get there… and still don’t feel the way you thought you woul...

Episode 7: The Thought That Won’t Leave You Alone Why do some thoughts refuse to let go? In this episode of Probably Most Definitely Overthinking This, we talk about the mental spirals that start small and somehow turn into full-blown emotional documentaries in our heads. From overthinking taxes, delegation, awkward conversations, social media, business decisions, relationships, and life transitio...

We say we’re “trying” all the time… but are we actually trying or just thinking about it? In this episode, we unpack what trying really looks like in real life. Not the polished version. The messy, uncomfortable, sometimes hilarious version where you either take the step… or talk yourself out of it. We get into: The difference between fake trying vs. real trying How overthinking keeps you stuck in...

Do you ever feel like everyone else is ahead of you? Like they launched faster, built bigger, figured it out sooner and somehow you’re still trying to catch up? In this episode, we’re talking about the pressure of timelines, comparison, and the exhausting belief that you’re somehow behind in life. From business growth and money to relationships and personal goals, we unpack where that feeling come...

Have you ever walked away from a conversation… and then replayed it in your head for hours? What you said. What you should have said. How they might have taken it. What they’re thinking about you now. In this episode, we’re diving into the spiral of overthinking conversations after they happen and why so many high-functioning, self-aware people get stuck there. We talk about: Why your brain won’t...

What if the reason you’re not showing up… isn’t because you don’t know what to say but because you’re afraid of being seen? In this episode, we get real about what it actually feels like to put yourself out there especially when it shifts from personal to business. Because posting for fun is one thing… but showing up when it matters hits completely different. We talk about the pressure of social m...

In this first official episode, we’re diving into something almost everyone experiences but rarely talks about honestly: why smart, capable people still doubt themselves. We talk about: ​Knowing what to do… but not doing it ​Why confidence shows up for everyone else but not always for us ​Overthinking, capacity, and getting stuck in your own head ​And what it actually looks like to move forward an...

Welcome to the podcast! We’re Melissa Hayes and Kami Schatz - two business owners in the middle of building, evolving, and figuring it out as we go. In this intro episode, we’re sharing who we are, how this podcast came to life, and what you can expect from future episodes. Think real conversations about business, life, growth, and everything in between - without the fluff or filters. If you’re bu...