Sam Abazari
Lend and Lead
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SE01E44 Loan Officers Who Build Referral Ecosystems Beat Transactional Competitors | Randall Mills 29.06.2026 25:51
From a desk shoved behind the cubicles, half a million dollars in debt and denied the very job he begged for, Randall Mills of The CORE Training rebuilt his entire financial life from zero to build a mortgage coaching empire responsible for over 3,400 millionaires. More than 700 loan officers netting seven figures yearly. This is not inspiration. This is a proven playbook. 📜 The Rejection Bluepri...
SE01E43 Mortgage Success Starts When You Stop Searching For The Perfect Lead Source | Joel Lieberman 22.06.2026 22:05
From a bakery floor to $450 million in annual mortgage volume, Joel Lieberman, CEO of The Mint Capital Inc, never recruited a single experienced loan officer and still built one of New York's most referred mortgage powerhouses. Joel Lieberman does not chase top producers. He creates them. With 30 loan officers, a fully owned processing team, and a record breaking 2025, his system proves that radi...
SE01 E42 High Producing Loan Officers Close More Deals By Saying No Faster Upfront | Stefanie Lyles 08.06.2026 35:46
She closed 47 million dollars, raised five kids, took eight days in Jamaica with no laptop, and still outproduced every loan officer who works twice her hours. Stefanie Lyles, Branch Manager and Mortgage Banker at Sente Mortgage, is rewriting what success looks like in the mortgage industry. In a world where hustle culture runs the lending business into the ground, Stefanie and her husband Blake b...
SE01 E41 Top Mortgage Producers Win By Dominating Niche Loan Products | Adam Funck 01.06.2026 34:30
From 2012 with zero investment properties to owning 10 homes and replacing his income entirely, Adam Funck, Senior Loan Officer at CrossCountry Mortgage, LLC, built a retirement machine that most financial advisors have never even thought to design. 🏛 The Retirement Blueprint Nobody Talks About Living off one income, stacking 15 year mortgages, snowballing paid off properties into early freedom 💡...
SE01 E40 Top Loan Officers Win With Responsiveness Not Automation Or Sales Pressure | Bryan Plott 25.05.2026 35:11
From zero mortgage experience to 30 million dollars closed in a single year, Bryan Plott of River Bank & Trust is rewriting what a loan officer in year four is even supposed to look like. First time home buyer mortgage tips. Loan officer growth strategy. Mortgage business development 2025. How to close more loans. Mortgage referral partner system. Phone application strategy for loan officers....
SE01 E39 Top Mortgage Producers Treat Customer Service Like A Sales System | Cooper Skelton 18.05.2026 40:32
From 175 rejected applications to $44 million in volume — Cooper Skelton of Revolution Mortgage is the loan officer they told would never survive this industry, and he just proved every single one of them catastrophically wrong. In five relentless years, Cooper built one of the most vertically integrated mortgage branches in the country, closing $20 million in pure purchase referrals in year one a...
SE01 E38 The Relationship System That Creates Lifelong Referrals | Pamela Riesenberg 11.05.2026 31:17
The mortgage industry is filled with outdated strategies, broken prospecting systems, and uncomfortable truths nobody tells new loan officers… yet Pamela Riesenberg has quietly built a $25M per year business by rejecting the noise and mastering one overlooked strategy: education over selling. This episode exposes the hidden truth behind lead generation, high conversion, and relationship-driven gro...
SE01 E37 Rock Bottom To Niche Dominance By Going All In On Builders | John Langdon 04.05.2026 28:38
John Langdon is a Mortgage Loan Originator at Union Home Mortgage based in Dothan, Alabama. He has built one of the most quietly dominant construction to permanent loan businesses in the Southeast, scaling to 50 leads per month through just five builders and five top producing real estate agents. He also runs Whatever It Takes Addiction Prevention, a nonprofit delivering fentanyl education to grad...
SE01 E36 Referrals vs Direct Leads - What Actually Builds a Scalable Loan Business | Benjamin Stef 27.04.2026 36:46
The uncomfortable reality about “working harder” in mortgages… it’s a lie. The top 1% aren’t grinding more, they’re playing a completely different game. While most chase rate shoppers and post generic content, a small group is engineering demand, owning niches, and turning content into deal flow on autopilot. This episode breaks that illusion wide open. ⚠️ In this episode, Benjamin Stef from Fundi...
SE01 E35 Top Producers Replace Their Network Every Year And Grow Faster | Tyler Hodgson 20.04.2026 41:08
In this episode, Tyler Hodgson exposes the hidden truth behind building a $70M personal production business, scaling a $420M branch, and why most loan officers are stuck using strategies that no longer work in today’s market. Featuring Tyler Hodgson, founder of NXT Mortgage and a top-producing loan officer, this conversation breaks down the real playbook behind sustainable growth, relationship-dri...
SE01 E34 Quality Over Quantity The Sales Shift That Changes Everything | Bobby Thames 13.04.2026 37:57
The mortgage industry is built on a broken system of chasing volume, outdated sales tactics, and burnout disguised as success. But what if the hidden truth is this: working less, earning more, and eliminating stress is actually possible? In this episode, Bobby Thames exposes the uncomfortable reality behind big mortgage companies, industry myths about scaling, and why most loan officers are playin...
SE01 E33 Deal Flow Drying Up This Real Estate Comeback Strategy Fixes It | William Manly 06.04.2026 30:27
The mortgage industry is broken… and the uncomfortable reality is most loan officers are chasing outdated strategies, burning out, and wondering why success keeps slipping away. This episode exposes the hidden truth about what actually builds sustainable income, real relationships, and a life you don’t secretly hate. In this powerful conversation, William Manly of Princeton Mortgage shares what no...
SE01 E32 The simple daily habit that drives consistent deal flow | Jon Overfelt 30.03.2026 35:38
The uncomfortable reality about the mortgage industry is this: most loan officers are stuck in a broken system built on outdated strategies, chasing social media hacks instead of mastering what actually drives consistent deal flow. While everyone obsesses over leads, the hidden truth is simple, brutal, and often ignored sales skill, daily discipline, and real relationships still win. In this episo...
SE01 E31 The Trust Based Strategy Behind High Volume Loan Officers | Jonathan Kulak 23.03.2026 35:12
The uncomfortable reality about mortgage success, lead generation, and scaling to $100M+ production is this: most loan officers are stuck in a broken system built on outdated strategies, chasing realtors, spamming social media, and relying on tactics that simply don’t work anymore. What nobody tells you is that real growth doesn’t come from more marketing it comes from mastery, trust, and communit...
SE01 E30 Instagram DMs Are Closing More Deals Than Cold Calls | Katie Skaggs 17.03.2026 42:01
The mortgage industry loves to sell a polished success story. Easy commissions. Endless referrals. A predictable pipeline. The uncomfortable reality is very different. In this episode, Katie Skaggs exposes the hidden truth behind modern mortgage sales, the broken assumptions about lead generation, and why outdated strategies are failing loan officers in today’s housing market. From closing million...
SE01 E29 The Mortgage Sales Shift That Turns Activity Into Real Loan Growth | Chris Vinson 13.03.2026 36:57
The mortgage industry runs on a broken system of outdated strategies, vanity metrics, and hustle myths that keep loan officers stuck. In this powerful episode, Chris Vinson exposes the hidden truth behind sustainable mortgage success. Instead of chasing flashy tactics or social media hype, he reveals the uncomfortable reality that the biggest wins in lending come from mastering the boring fundamen...
SE01 E28 Mortgage Industry Mistakes Costing Loan Officers Deals In 2026 | Laura J. Brandao 09.03.2026 41:47
In this episode, Laura Brandao, President and Owner at MLB Wholesale, reveals the frameworks and strategies that helped her rise from a call center lead generator to leading companies generating billions in mortgage production. She breaks down the leadership mindset, operational strategy, and relationship driven approach that modern mortgage professionals must adopt to survive a changing housing m...
SE01 E26 THE CAPITAL MARKETS ADVANTAGE MOST BROKERS NEVER SEE | Robert Pieklo 02.03.2026 33:57
The mortgage industry is stuck in outdated strategies, broken tech stacks, and ego driven leadership. Meanwhile, the broker channel is quietly taking market share. In this explosive episode, Rob Pieklo, President and CEO of E Mortgage Capital also known as EPM, reveals the hidden truth about wholesale lending, capital markets, and why most originators are distracted by the wrong things. After pers...
SE01 E25 Mastering Mortgage Success: The Art of Client-Centric Numbers | Jake Schoemann 23.02.2026 41:01
In this conversation, Jake shares insights into his successful mortgage business, emphasizing the importance of building strong relationships, tracking numbers, and providing exceptional customer service. He discusses the balance between work and personal life, the significance of understanding clients' financial goals, and the value of hiring the right team members. Jake also highlights the need...
SE01 E24 MASTERING RELATIONSHIPS IN MORTGAGE LENDING :LOAN OFFICER’S LIFE | Carly Roberts 16.02.2026 37:31
In this conversation, Carly Roberts shares her insights on being a successful builder loan officer, emphasizing the importance of building strong relationships with sales reps and clients. She discusses her unique approach to client interactions, the significance of work-life balance, and the strategies that have led to her impressive capture rate. Carly also reflects on her journey into the mortg...
SE01 E23 THE REAL WAY TO SCALE A MORTGAGE BROKERAGE IN A TOUGH MARKET | Brandon List 09.02.2026 42:42
In this conversation, Brandon shares his journey in the mortgage industry, detailing his rise to processing $75 million in loans. He discusses the balance between work and family life, the sacrifices made, and the importance of having a supportive partner. Brandon emphasizes the significance of building relationships with builders and the strategic approach he took to identify market inefficiencie...
SE01 E22 $5 Million to $67 Million: Secrets Behind Rapid Growth in the Mortgage Industry | Alex Reid 02.02.2026 44:48
In this conversation, Alex shares his remarkable journey in the mortgage industry, detailing his rapid growth from closing $5 million in loans to an anticipated $67 million in 2025. He discusses the importance of mindset, personal sacrifices, and the challenges of balancing work and personal life. Alex emphasizes the significance of networking, building relationships, and finding a niche in the ma...
SE01 E21 Turning Challenges into Opportunities in Sales | Danilo Ariza 12.01.2026 30:24
In this conversation, Danilo shares his journey in the mortgage industry, discussing the challenges he faced during a tough year and how he turned things around. He emphasizes the importance of mental resilience, building a strong network, and maintaining accountability in sales. Danilo also highlights the significance of follow-up, setting clear goals, and the role of a supportive team in achievi...
SE01 E20 Top 1% Producer Secrets for High-Converting Referrals | Bashir Kadi 05.01.2026 38:19
In this conversation, Bashir shares his journey from a W-2 job to becoming a top mortgage producer, discussing the importance of mentorship, the phases of a mortgage career, and the balance between work and family life. He emphasizes the significance of building strong relationships with realtors, managing leads effectively, and expanding into new markets while maintaining a solid online presence....
SE01 E19 Building Relationships in the Loan Business: Loan Officer's Journey | Cameron Pridemore 29.12.2025 42:37
In this conversation, Cameron shares his journey from being a teacher to becoming a successful loan officer and branch manager. He discusses the importance of relationship building, maintaining a positive mindset, and balancing work with family life. Cameron emphasizes the flexibility of the loan officer business and how it allows him to enjoy activities like golfing while still being productive....
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