Chasing Brighter Podcast: Choosing Real Over Perfect

Superwoman Diaries: Disco Nights, Builder Gel & Finding the Causes That Move Us It's October in Vegas and Jessica is still pretending it's cozy season in a blazer. In this Superwoman Diaries episode, the sisters catch up on the little luxuries and the big-hearted moments of the past few weeks. Jessica shares her day of beauty before a disco-themed gala (complete with a surprise Vietnamese coff...

Not every friendship ends with a falling-out. Some quietly drift. Some go on pause. Some still exist on paper, with birthday texts and the occasional "we should get together!", while the emotional closeness has faded. In this episode, Jessica and Kelly talk about friendship ambiguity: the friendships that leave you unsure where you stand, how you feel, or whether anything needs to be said at all....

Superwoman Diaries: White Lies, Chicken Sandwiches & the College Search Jess and Kelly catch up on life as moms of almost-grown and newly-grown kids. Jess shares the college "white lies party", her plan to feed a team of hungry college athletes from 2,000 miles away, and the surprisingly emotional side of parenting an adult child in a different time zone. Kelly opens up about kicking off the c...

Here are the show notes, built from the episode audio. The timestamps are approximate, so give them a quick check against your final edit. Outgrown, Not Failed: When Friendships Fade Have you ever thought about a friend you used to be inseparable from and felt… nothing? Not bad, just not the same. In this episode, Jess and Kelly talk about friendships that run their course, why a fading friendship...

Superwoman Diaries: Fall Fashion Finds, TJ Maxx Jackpots & the Mystery of the Missing Mediums It's officially fall, and Jessica and Kelly are talking wardrobes. After a school open house leaves Kelly second-guessing her go-to t-shirt-and-jeans look, the sisters swap stories about refreshing their closets for the new season without falling into overwhelm or overspending. Jessica shares her case...

The Friendships That Found You Chasing Brighter | Season 6: Becoming, Not Arriving Some of the most important people in your life never came from a plan. They came from a park bench, a softball tryout, a Friday coffee table, or the spot next to you in a gym class. This month, Jessica and Kelly are talking about relationships that grow with us, and they're starting with the friendships that found u...

Superwoman Diaries #4: Car Loop Chaos & the Case for Just Being a Good Human It's 99 degrees, school is back in session, and the drop-off line has become a test of character. In this Superwoman Diaries episode, Jessica and Kelly vent about morning traffic, dog walkers who don't know the school schedule, and the car loop parents who turn a two-second drop-off into a full farewell ceremony. What...

Let's Get Honest: What We've Been Waiting to Begin Chasing Brighter | Season 6: Becoming, Not Arriving | September 24 All September long, we've been talking about beginnings: self-sabotage, the stories we tell ourselves, and the "not yet" that keeps us stuck. To close out the month, Jessica and Kelly get honest in a free-flowing conversation. Instead of focusing on what they haven't done, they sha...

Back to school looks nothing like it did when we were kids. Jessica and Kelly compare the back-to-school shopping of their childhoods (the planned outfits, the double socks, the once-a-year wardrobe refresh) with what it looks like now: uniforms, reused backpacks, digital textbooks, and teenagers who carry their entire lives around because nobody uses lockers. Then the conversation gets real. They...

Do you have high standards, or are you sabotaging yourself and calling it perfectionism? This week Jessica and Kelly dig into the sneaky ways perfectionism disguises itself as a virtue — and why it can be one of the most sophisticated ways we keep ourselves safe. They unpack the real clinical difference between standards that move you forward and self-sabotage that quietly keeps you stuck, share p...

Jessica and Kelly dig into the viral "2026 is the new 2016" trend — the exercise of looking back a decade and asking who you were then, what you miss, and what you don't. The conversation quickly turns into a heart-to-heart about parenting through transitions: Kelly reflecting on missing her kids' toddler years, and Jessica processing the very fresh experience of dropping her oldest daughter, Gabb...

Last week we talked about "I'm not ready yet" as fear dressed up as logic. This week, Jessica and Kelly pull on that thread further to unpack the credential trap — the pattern of adding one more certification, one more year of experience, one more thing to point to before you'll let yourself begin. It looks like ambition and diligence from the outside, but underneath it is often a single question:...

In this week's Superwoman Diaries, Jessica shares how she's been using ChatGPT as an unexpected style consultant on her weight loss journey. What started as a simple question — "how do I dress this changing body?" — turned into a full-blown "Jessica Style Playbook," complete with a closet audit, body-shape analysis, and outfit ratings. Kelly and Jessica dig into why understanding why something wor...

In this episode, they unpack why "I'm not ready yet" sounds responsible but is usually just fear in disguise, why readiness is a decision instead of a feeling, and how the question "Am I ready?" is a lot less useful than "Am I willing?" Jessica shares how she's built almost everything in her life — from her private practice to both podcasts — by starting before she felt ready, and Kelly gets hones...

Last season, we dug into the gap between who women think they're supposed to be and who they actually are — the expectations, the perfectionism, the invisible rules about what a "good life" looks like. But figuring out who you are was never the finish line. Season 6 picks up where that left off: the messy middle. What happens when you know who you are and have to actually start living that way? Th...

So many of us are waiting for the moment we finally "arrive." When we lose the weight. When the kids need us less. When work calms down. When we're more organized, more confident, more together... then we'll be happy. Then we'll rest. But what if there isn't an arrival point? In this trailer, Jessica and Kelly open up Season 6 with a question that changes everything: what if this is it? Not in a d...

So many of us are waiting for the moment we finally "arrive." When we lose the weight. When the kids need us less. When work calms down. When we're more organized, more confident, more together... then we'll be happy. Then we'll rest. But what if there isn't an arrival point? In this trailer, Jessica and Kelly open up Season 6 with a question that changes everything: what if this is it? Not in a d...

Ever bought a beautiful color-coded planner and abandoned it in 10 days? Jessica and Kelly get real about why aspirational, Instagram-perfect systems fail — and what actually works instead. This episode is about meeting yourself where you're at: building systems that are low-friction, flexible, forgiving, and repeatable, especially on hard days. Because social media isn't perfection, it's performa...

Kicking off their Energy and Overwhelm month, Jessica and Kelly get honest about a kind of tired that sleep cannot touch — the exhaustion that lives underneath an otherwise good, full life. Jessica opens up about six years of intentional self-work — therapy, fitness, nutrition, a 40-pound weight loss journey — and how even with all of that in place, there are still days when something feels off in...

Social media makes organizing look like color-coded bins and perfectly labeled pantries, but Jessica and Kelly get honest about why a one-size-fits-all system rarely works. In this re-released episode, they dig into what it looks like to build your life around your actual energy instead of a list of "shoulds." Expectation-based living — I should wake up early, I should handle more, I should be bet...

February is all about resetting, resting, and reconnecting — and Jessica and Kelly start with the foundation of it all: the nervous system. If you've been feeling irritable, exhausted, numb, or like you're running on fumes, it's probably not a motivation problem, it's a regulation problem. This episode reframes the conversation from fixing yourself (which brings shame) to regulating yourself (whic...

In this re-released episode, Jessica and Kelly explore what it really means to feel disconnected — not from other people, but from yourself. Valentine's Day and February can amplify loneliness, comparison, and that quiet "am I behind somehow?" feeling, even for people who are partnered, busy, or surrounded by others. Jessica and Kelly unpack how self-disconnection shows up (resentment, numbness, p...

Jessica is back from a week at AFA Nationals in St. George watching Gabby's softball team battle through four games in 102-degree heat (and a home run!), while Kelly's son Wes had his own big weekend in Chicago — also with a home run of his own. The sisters dig into the realities of travel ball season, why some kids start losing interest in the sports they grew up playing, and whether kids today n...

It's officially a wrap on Season 5. In this finale, Jessica and Kelly look back at the whole arc of the season — from rest and reset in February, to choosing real over perfect in March, through exhaustion and invisible labor in April, identity and worthiness in May, and joy and presence in June. They get honest about what actually shifted in each of them this season, why they expanded the show bey...

Kelly kicks things off with an epic (and hilarious) saga of a missing AirPod that turns a weekend getaway into a full-blown investigation — trash cans, lint traps, and all. From there, Jess and Kelly riff on how far audio tech has come, then dive into something they're both obsessed with lately: using AI to tackle home projects. Jess shares how she used Claude to plan a budget-friendly bathroom re...