Brave & Big

When David Pollack broke his neck on an NFL field, the career he'd chased since he was four years old ended in a single moment. What he found in the stillness became the message he carries now: every day counts, and how you respond is the only part you actually control. Joey Odom and Chris Hart sit down with David, a College Football Hall of Famer, longtime ESPN College GameDay analyst, and a...

Years ago Chris Hart asked Joey Odom a four-word question that Joey has asked himself hundreds of times since: what's in your hand? This episode is built around it, and around the principle that quietly changes everything once it lands. Increase always follows stewardship. The word goes back to the steward of a medieval estate, someone trusted with everything and owner of nothing, measured by...

A plane built to fly 600 miles an hour gets stopped cold by one small chock behind the tire. Chris Hart watched it happen on a runway and couldn't shake the question: what's the wedge in my own life? Joey Odom and Chris spend this episode on alignment, and why it's almost always the thing already inside us, not the circumstance around us, that keeps us grounded. They walk through a...

You don't have grit or lack it. You do grit. Joey Odom and Chris Hart open this episode by flipping the whole question: grit isn't a trait you're born with, it's a muscle you choose to use, and it's available to every single one of us. They start with the unsexy truth. We romanticize grit as the moment you win a fight, but it actually shows up in the boring, tedious, non-r...

Most of us admire other people's discipline and never build our own. Joey Odom and Chris Hart spend this episode on the fix: a daily spiritual rhythm simple enough that you'll actually keep it. Joey grew up in church and somehow never read the Bible all the way through until he was about 40, when a friend's offhand comment finally gave him permission to start. Chris built a 5 a.m. r...

Most of us are chasing leadership when the thing we're actually missing is authority. Joey Odom and Chris Hart spend this episode on the difference, and why it changes how you walk into every room. Chris starts simple. Authority is not a title, a volume level, or being the loudest person in the building. It is something you carry, and it traces all the way back to Genesis, where the first ass...

In college, Joey and Chris made a bet about who'd be the fattest at 40. They both showed up to that birthday in better shape than they started. This week, two average athletes (not trainers, not experts, just two guys who've stayed in it) talk about what's actually worked for them across two very different body types — and what hasn't. This is the fitness conversation most men...

The first sin in human history was followed immediately by an excuse. Adam pointed at Eve. Eve pointed at the serpent. Nobody pointed at themselves. Joey Odom and Chris Hart open episode three with that observation and spend the next forty minutes unpacking why excuses are the lid on almost every life, and what it actually takes to kill them. This one gets personal fast. Chris lays out the case th...

Most people have friends but not true covenant relationship. Joey Odom and Chris Hart spend this week unpacking the difference — and why it matters more than almost anything else in your life. It starts with two stories. A five-hour drive to a men's conference where one guy looked around the truck and said, "I've never felt invincible until this car ride." And a phone call from...

After 27 years of friendship, Joey Odom and Chris Hart are finally doing the thing they've been talking about since college. Every week, they're sitting down to have the kind of conversations that make both of them better men. Episode one starts where the show starts: with the friendship itself. Then Chris walks Joey (and you) through the framework that anchors how he coaches some of the...

Welcome to Brave & Big — a weekly conversation for anyone ready to stop coasting and start taking ground.   Chris Hart, founder and CEO of Brave Coaches, and Joey Odom, public speaker, author, and former tech co-founder, have been best friends for over 25 years. In that friendship, they've had thousands of conversations — and walked away from every one of them better, sharper, and more fi...