Between Us

As Kira and I plan for our girls weekend, Jack also has a  luxurious vacation while Kira's away.  Join us as we share the spa-like retreat for our beloved. From blueberry facials to gourmet cookies and milk, and plush suites complete with TVs, Jack truly gets the royal treatment. As a surprise, Jill will be sharing from her journal that she found a few weeks ago from when she was 16.  Let&apo...

In this episode, I entertain Shakira and her love for The Kardashians since we are not of the same opinion on this topic.  Shakira opens the flood gates with what we are witnessing in the world of opposition.   Or rather the philosophy of freedom and equality and equity and being one's full self whatever that looks like and regardless of what someone thinks about them. This has use swirling a...

In this weeks episode, Shakira gives us an exuberant guided tour of her trip to New York filled dynamic people and fashion.  Exactly what you would expect from both NYC and Shakira.  As we return back to home we discuss the tension and anxiety that have been present and the need to take back her will.  This curtails us down the path of enough-ness  and focus on being enough right now.  By being in...

In this episode, we chat about feeling like a broken record and the need to sometimes just have a good ole cry.  Kira chats about the shifts her anxiety has taken and how it now manifests in her life.  Through it all we acknowledge the lack of compassion we have for ourselves and dealing with the day to day challenges.  We discuss how our addictions take us down into the bowels of our insecurities...

In this episode, we are feeling all the feels my friends.  Buckle up and notice your own distorted reality.  Together we explore: The challenges of being trapped in your own headspace.  Typically, it's a really shitty neighborhood and you need to find your way out. The hard work of being sober.   All the ways we avoid and numb to not deal with our feelings.   Discovering what the underlying f...

In this episode we start by discussing the value of emotional intelligence as leader and navigating beyond being a cog in the wheel.  We play with the metaphor of you being a house and what would your house look like if you were to redecorate it.  As we walk through our house, we explore what it means to live with intention and creativity and how it sparks growth.   As we explore our house, we dis...

In this week's episode, we uncover where and how we are making our lives small.  We discover the truths in how we manipulate and control certain situations or people to stay comfortable and eliminate risk.  We play around with the concept of being in relationship with ourselves.  And based on what we discovered, I'm kicking myself out the fucking door.  Eventually, Kira reels me back and...

This episode is literally complete nonsense.   Kira takes us down a passionate whole of her latest binge of Love is Blind.  We find ourselves deliriously hungover from our torrid affair of trashy television.  At some point we attempt to go deep and discover our combined desires of avoiding and go back to  the comforts of what we know.  Welcome to the nonsense and I hope you enjoy in the delight of...

In this week's episode we discuss communication and how we may or may not sensor ourselves based on experiences.  We both talk through the HR issues we have had with our direct reports and how that shaped our future and communication style.  We found that these various situations have forced us to morph ourselves into unauthentic versions of ourselves leaving us craving a feeling of freedom. ...

In this episode, we explore the conversation of grief and loss.  Our friend Adam presented this topic as a discussion and we dove in.  Like all of our conversations we dive deep, find some lightness and laughter and give you something to consider.  So don't delete this one before you give it a listen.  We discover it's honoring the feelings that may or may not be as big as they were at t...

In this weeks episode we go through the highs and lows in our experiences with resistance.  We explore the possibility of choice and what it's like to dance outside our comfort zone.  Shakira defines what faith means for her and how she experiences it on the daily to stay connected.  As we further discuss the discomfort in in our resistance we bump up against fear in the unknowing.  What we d...

In this episode we are unknowingly creating a string of pearls connected to finding beauty in the darkness.  The darkness in a mood.  The darkness of a phase.  The darkness in an artists painting. The darkness in our own thoughts.  As we carry on this conversation we are wrestled with trusting the process and experiencing the blessings of our journey through life.  Can we let it just come to us ra...

This episode is the real conversation between two friends and we exploit our privileges in life.  We are full aware of how we ridiculous we can be at times.  As we explore this privilege we discover our travel tendencies and what it means to intentionally live in your space and what is really necessary to have what you truly want in life.  We find that it is a lot less than we think.  We are remin...

In this episode, we get curious about about the expansion of defining what is masculine and feminine energy.  We dive into the role models of the masculine and feminine and how this has showed up in our life experiences.  We explore how we identify with these energies today and how we play with the edges to find balance and play.  As a takeaway, how can we consciously and intentionally think about...

In this episode the conversations weaves through multiple ideas and topics of understanding the feminine within each of us.  As we begin with the beautiful practice of checking in with mood and feelings, we create the dance through each of our experiences of the feminine energy and how it has expanded our self awareness.  Shakira shares some beautiful resources that support her in the healing of h...

This episode begins with body image, diet culture and the value we place on ourselves with the number on the scale.  In this episode we talk about reconstructing definitions that have been defined for us or those that we are reconsidering as we journey through our forties.  We explore the pathway to self compassion through the sliding scale we discovered in acceptance.   We tackle body image, diet...

In this episode we begin by discussing the manipulation of our hair, the perceptions we carry  and the identity we create.  As the discussion continues we discover it's not just so much more than hair. It's a lesson, I think, for how you can be more free and accepting and become closer to what is your higher self.  We deep dive into manipulation and control versus freedom and liberation....

In this episode we talk about an exercise Shakira has in her morning routine that identifies her mood and how she's feeling.  Rather than this feeling being about what you think it "should" be, how can we articulate our feelings and just allow them to be as they are?  As we define our feelings we talk about taking action from a space of love and confidence rather than fear and the &...

In this episode we pivot from the regularly scheduled topic as Kira dives deep into the fringe of metal music and invites us into the exploration of the role music has played in our lives.  We tap into the bridge of possibilities music has provided each of us through connection to self, community and something bigger than ourselves.  We explore the inner connection  and how music connects us to ot...

We are in the hot seat today my friends.  It started with a dream, weaved through some loneliness, got a bit distracted with some ski goggles and ended with feeling refreshed and NEW.  As with all our conversations, it is a journey through our souls connected with love and laughter.  Enjoy my friends Thank you for spending this time Between Us . This podcast is part of The Return , a collection of...

In this episode we discuss the reasons why we decided, or Shakira was forced, to create this podcast.   The dynamics between us as friends is pure magic and I thought we needed to share this with others and invite you into our friendship.  More often than not, we walk away from our conversations, feeling something deeper within ourselves that we didn't prior to our call.  Our intention is for...