Between Us

In this episode of Between Us , Jill and Shakira dive into an unexpected conversation sparked by a shared obsession with heated rivalry . What begins with updates about sore muscles, major life changes, and an upcoming surgery quickly unfolds into a deeper exploration of intimacy, vulnerability, self-love, and what it means to be fully seen. Together, they unpack why heated rivalry has resonated s...

In this episode, we trace a funny, awkward wedding dance story into a deeper conversation about fear of being seen, judgment, and the longing for more ease, fun, and romance in life. Shakira shares a surreal five rhythms “dance church” experience that forces her to confront discomfort in a brightly lit room full of mirrors and strangers, while Jill recounts a powerful breath work session that offe...

What if indulging in your guilty pleasures could lead to a life-changing journey of self-awareness and creativity? On this episode of the Listener Don't Podcast, we embark on a lively exploration of fashion, inspiration, and personal balance. Our conversation kicks off with a playful exchange about the personal "drugs" that light up our days, from the allure of television marathons...

In this heart-to-heart, we lay bare the threads of personal growth, the nuances of relationships and the gentle art of cultivating patience and self-compassion. Witness the beauty of metamorphosis as we explore how self-responsibility draws the map of our journey through the world's changing landscapes. From the vibrant heartbeat of Los Angeles to the tranquility of a yoga studio sanctuary, t...

Have you ever slipped into a scent that reshaped your day as effortlessly as a favorite outfit? Shakira and I invite you to a world where every splash of perfume and swipe of lipstick is an act of self-celebration and expression. Our heart-to-heart unfolds the layers of personal care rituals that embolden our spirits, from my lavish 'everything shower' complete with dry brushing and Turk...

Have you ever let the ebb and flow of the ocean's tides slow the pace of your heartbeat? Our latest voyage into the heart of Hawaii has gifted us with tales of serenity, self-discovery, and the surprising joys found in a simple way of being. We unwind the threads of time spent in nature's embrace, where the power of pausing became our greatest ally. Join us as we recount the enchantment...

As we peel back the layers of life's constant flux, Shakira shares an intimate recounting of the resurgence and serenity of her time away from home, painting a picture of the paradox between comfort and the sense of being adrift. Our exchange transitions to the sun-soaked narratives from a soul-stirring San Diego sojourn, where yoga's communal breath became a poignant connector, and shar...

Ever forked out top dollar for a service that left you both lighter in the wallet and heavy with disappointment? We wade through the murky waters of household cleanliness and the daunting quest for a spotless abode. It's a candid look at the high stakes of dust bunnies and streak-free stainless steel — a tale that might just mirror your own. But it's not all about the dust; we scrub deep...

Discover the intricate dance of a relationship that has weathered the test of time, as my husband Jeff joins me at the microphone to weave a tapestry of stories spanning three decades. Our conversation ventures beyond the surface, revealing how the art of communication has both challenged and enriched the bond we share. We take you on a journey from the giddiness of our dating days to the solid fo...

Ever had one of those days where you just can't seem to muster the energy to tackle your day? We've all been there, and in this laugh-packed episode, we share our own hilarious low-energy tales, including a surprising mood lift from a celebrity video! But we're not just about the giggles; we also get real about the intimate connection between our physical fitness and emotional healt...

Embracing Vulnerability and Connection in Relationships.  Ever felt the weight of the world on your shoulders and yearned for a place to lay down that burden? Our latest heart-to-heart with Jenny unravels the complex tapestry of emotional support for men, challenging the stoic facades often demanded by society. As we traverse topics from the vulnerability in men and the unique pressures within LGB...

Have you ever felt the weight of expectation to tread the well-worn path of parenthood? Our latest episode peels back the layers of societal norms that pressure women to have children, as we share the powerful realization that choosing a child-free life can be as fulfilling as any other. We dive into the heart of this personal subject, with anecdotes and insights that celebrate the freedom to deci...

Embarking on a three-decade love affair that sprouted in the least romantic of places—a fast-food joint—has taught one dynamic duo the true essence of a long-lasting relationship. As they unfold the tale of their union, we peer into the intricacies of personal evolution, the art of self-acceptance, and the transformative power of emotional intelligence. They're not shy about the rough patches...

When the effervescent Jenny joins our podcast, we're reminded of the kind of laughter and depth that only a friend can bring. Our latest episode is a testament to that irreplaceable connection, capturing the essence of  unscripted exchanges amongst true friendships.  Whether it's chuckling over the 'J squad' coincidence or musing on "Selling Sunset" marathons, this ch...

Have you ever found yourself eating junk food, not out of hunger but as a form of self-punishment? We dropped our guards in this episode, getting real about our battles with self-destructive behaviors and how guilt and a lack of self-love often drive us to hurt ourselves through a variety of unsupportive habits that have been created. We shared our fears and the urgency we feel to indulge before m...

Ever wondered how a personalized skincare routine could be a game-changer for your overall well-being? Get ready to embark on a journey of self-discovery and self-care with us as we reveal our experiences and learnings from a French facialist and a friend who's a wizard with unique massage techniques. We'll delve into the holistic approach of our facialist, who taught us the importance o...

Ever grappled with the unease and disorientation that comes with navigating through airports? We've all been there. In our latest podcast episode, my co-host and I dissect our own travel experiences and the jitters that come with TSA and screenings—trust me, we know firsthand how overwhelming it can be.  But that's not all.  As the episode unfolds, we transition into a profound conversat...

Ever wondered how the roots of a plant could mirror our emotional responses and relationships? Now, that's an interesting thought! Deep-rooted emotions, just like those of plants, have the capacity to impact our relationships. Join us as we share a personal journey of self-discovery, growth, and emotional healing through tending the garden and tools like Eye Movement Desensitization and Repro...

Join us on this enlightening journey of self-discovery and empowerment, where we aim to inspire and uplift one another.  We confront our beliefs and insecurities created by cultural, societal and patriarchal systems and the ways they can manifest in unkind behavior towards ourselves and others. We challenge societal norms of beauty and delve into how self-love and detachment from external validati...

Ever had a belly-aching laugh with your girlfriends, shared hilarious self-soothing techniques, and then the next moment found yourself knee-deep in discussions about remote work culture and imposter syndrome? Well, that's exactly what we did in this heartening yet reflective episode. We opened up about the delights of our recent girls' weekend, which could easily be a sitcom episode. &q...

Are you truly content? Do you yearn for more with every achievement? In our latest chat, we turn the tables on definitions of success and happiness, tackling the often unsettling balance between contentment and desire. We navigate the misleading pressures of materialism and discuss how life's real joy isn't rooted in the price tag, but in the experience itself. We then embark on a journe...

Ever found yourself feeling overwhelmed by the constant hustle and bustle of life, yearning for a moment of respite? Imagine taking a pause and giving yourself the gift of purposeless rest, a moment to simply be. This episode we explore the idea of intentional rest, the struggle with productivity and the unsettling feeling of being pulled along by the week. From there, we consider the wider implic...

Ever ran a marathon and craved for a peculiar meal, like a tuna melt? Have you ever pondered over the psychology behind wanting to experience the same joy again? We're spilling all the beans about our memorable Chicago Marathon journey, filled with anticipation, adrenaline rush and post-race cravings. We don't just stop there. We also dive into how our cravings transcend into various asp...

Ever wonder how a superstar like Beyonce commands the stage with such grace and power? This episode will take you on a mesmerizing journey through her recent performance that had us in absolute awe. Picture it: Soldier Field, Chicago's skyline as the backdrop, and Beyonce, radiant in her exquisite costumes, creating a moving moment of unity that left us choked up. We've got all the awe-i...

Ever wished you could bottle up the serenity of a vacation and bring it into your everyday life? We're unpacking our recent beach retreat in this enlightening episode. We share our love for the luxury of comfortable silence, the relaxation of daily massages, and the unexpected disruptions that punctuated our peaceful escape.  The conversation takes a deeper turn as we broach the subject of ca...