2 CPAs & The Mic

In episode 28 of 2 CPAs & The Mic, hosts Jeff Frable and Sara Mays unpack the power of year-end tax planning. Learn how proactive strategy can eliminate costly surprises, improve cash flow, and turn tax season into a time for smart decision-making. From timing income and expenses to leveraging bonus depreciation and reviewing your business structure, this episode is packed with practical insights...

What happens when leadership steps away from the spotlight and focuses entirely on empowering the team behind the scenes? In this episode of 2 CPAs & The Mic, Jeff and Sara sit down with Belinda Jordan, Tax Division Leader at CCK Strategies, to explore her unconventional, non-client-facing leadership role. From her Big Four beginnings to leading a 60+ person tax team across geographies, Belinda sh...

In episode 26 of 2 CPAs & The Mic, Jeff and Sara chat with seasoned realtor, Caroline Gorinsky-Huesler, who shares her inspiring journey from Switzerland to relocation expert in Tulsa. Learn how international experience, cultural empathy, and strategic networking can turn real estate into a powerful business tool. Whether you're a business owner navigating employee moves, a professional exploring...

When Hurricane Helene unleashed unprecedented flooding on Asheville, NC, the city faced total communication blackout and economic devastation. In this powerful episode, hosts Jeff Frable and Sara Mays sit down with Marcus Kirkman, Business Inclusion Manager and retired Navy veteran, to share how Asheville responded, recovered, and rebuilt. Kirkman shares behind-the-scenes insights into the city's...

In episode 24 of 2 CPAs & The Mic, hosts Jeff Frable and Sara Mays sit down with Curtis Olson, CCK Strategies' resident cybersecurity expert, to unpack the real-world risks facing today's businesses. From phishing and ransomware to AI-driven scams, Curtis shares eye-opening stats and practical strategies to protect your company. Learn why cybersecurity starts with leadership, how to build a cultur...

In episode 23 of 2 CPAs & The Mic, hosts Jeff Frable and Sara Mays sit down with Ashley Plyushko, Executive Director of the Oklahoma Accountancy Board (OAB), and John Curzon, Vice Chair of the OAB and founding partner of CCK Strategies. Together, they unpack the mission and mechanics of the OAB, its national influence through NASBA, and the evolving challenges facing the accounting profession—from...

In this inspiring episode of 2 CPAs & The Mic, we chat with Keira D'Amato - professional runner, entrepreneur, and mom of two - whose journey redefines athletic success. After nearly a decade away from elite running, Keira made a stunning comeback while building a real estate business and raising a family. She shares the mindset behind her return, the emotions of setting and losing a marathon reco...

In episode 21 of 2 CPAs & The Mic, we sit down with John Bundren, Director of Client Advisory Services (CAS) at CCK Strategies, to explore the evolution of accounting into a forward-thinking advisory model known as CAS 2.0. John shares how CAS has moved beyond traditional bookkeeping to become a strategic partnership that empowers business leaders to make smarter financial decisions. John breaks d...

In episode 20 of 2 CPAs & The Mic, we sit down with Jim Hicks, CFO and COO of CCK Strategies for a candid conversation packed with insights every business owner needs. From global negotiations to multimillion-dollar acquisitions, Jim's career offers lessons on the real drivers of business success. Discover when to hire a CFO, how to structure your executive team, and why knowing how your business...

In episode 19 of 2 CPAs & The Mic, we sit down with Eric Gregg, founder of ClearlyRated, to explore how professional service firms can elevate client satisfaction using the Net Promoter Score (NPS). Eric breaks down the NPS system, shares insights from CCK Strategies' own experience, and explains why feedback—especially the tough kind—is a goldmine for growth. From the emotional impact of client r...

In episode 18 of 2 CPAs & The Mic, we sit down with Blake Postelwait, CPA, CVA, to discuss business valuation and the evolving landscape for professionals in public accounting. Blake shares his career journey from audit to industry and back, highlighting the "boomerang effect" that often draws individuals back to the cadence of firm life. You will gain insights into the valuation process, includin...

What do you get when a love for sports collides with a passion for numbers? A game-changing approach to financial strategy for athletes and entertainers. In episode 17 of 2 CPAs & The Mic, Jeff and Sara are joined by teammate and fellow CCK Partner - Caleb Caldwell. Caleb has built a thriving niche serving high-profile clients—from college athletes navigating NIL deals to seasoned pros managing mu...

In Episode 16 of 2 CPAs & The Mic, Jeff and Sara welcome a special guest, Clarence Fisher from Tulsa Internet Marketing Services. A trusted collaborator and friend of the show, Clarence offers creative and practical insights that our listeners are sure to appreciate. Clarence shares his journey from a 10-year career in radio to becoming a digital marketing expert and introduces his powerful R4 Fra...

In Episode 15 of 2 CPAs & The Mic, hosts Jeff Frable and Sara Mays chat with BreAnne Peters, Tax Team Leader at CCK Strategies, about her unexpected leap from clarinet performance major to tax professional. With her vibrant personality and unapologetically authentic style, BreAnne breaks the mold of the "typical accountant." This episode dives into her seven-year journey at CCK, her choice to purs...

In this bonus episode of 2 CPAs & The Mic, hosts Jeff Frable and Sara Mays break down the newly signed "One Big Beautiful Bill" (OBBB) tax legislation, signed into law on July 4th. Described as a "Super Bowl" moment for tax professionals, this episode offers a high-level overview of the sweeping changes—without diving into the political weeds. Jeff and Sara discuss the tax implications, especially...

In episode 14 of 2 CPAs & The Mic, hosts Jeff Frable and Sara Mays welcome Matt Granados, productivity coach and founder of Life Pulse. What began as a personal system Matt developed to manage his own life has since evolved into a transformative framework adopted by major corporations seeking to align organizational goals with employees' personal aspirations. In this insightful conversation, Matt...

In episode 13 of 2 CPAs & The Mic, Jeff Frable and Sara Mays are joined by their CCK partner, IRS-savvy, Luann Rinowski, for a candid and insightful conversation about navigating the world of IRS representation. Luann shares how she stumbled into her niche—handling IRS audit. Her secret? Treating IRS agents like real people (with a healthy dose of professionalism).  Luann's authentic blend of genu...

Starting a business is exciting.  Learn why selecting the right entity structure is important to ensure smooth operations and avoid any potential challenges down the road. In episode 12 of 2 CPAs & The Mic, hosts Jeff Frable and Sara Mays unpack the real-world implications of selecting a business entity. Whether you're a brand-new entrepreneur, a side-hustler earning passive income, or a seasoned...

In episode 11 of "2 CPAs & The Mic," Jeff Frable and Sara Mays sit down with ORU's Athletic Director Tim Johnson to discuss how the introduction of NIL (Name, Image & Likeness) is changing the landscape of college athletics. Initially designed as a way for athletes to receive fair compensation, NIL has quickly evolved into what many now view as a form of "pay for play." This shift was driven by ke...

Borders become blurred in our connected world and small businesses can easily find themselves with international tax obligations without realizing it. Our digital-first economy has dramatically increased international exposure through online sales platforms, payment processors, and remote workforce arrangements. In episode 10 of "2 CPAs & The Mic," hosts Jeff Frable and Sara Mays are joined by fel...

In episode 9 of "2 CPAs & The Mic," hosts Jeff Frable and Sara Mays welcome fellow partner Kyna Leyva to discuss the reality of navigating a thriving family life and robust career. Kyna shares candid insights about how "work-life balance" is a misleading concept and how to think about "harmonizing" your whole life instead, the importance of setting realistic expectations and giving grace to yourse...

From college basketball to $70 million development deals, Matt Mardis has seen and done it all in the world of commercial real estate.  In this enlightening and entertaining episode of 2 CPAs & The Mic , Jeff and Sara sit down with the seasoned broker and developer to explore the inner workings of CRE—from land acquisition and vertical planning to investor relationships and emerging trends. Matt u...

In episode 7 of "2 CPAs & The Mic," partners Jeff Frable and Sara Mays welcome Victoria Guerre, Director of Human Resources at CCK Strategies, for a candid and contemporary look at how HR is evolving in today's workplace. Victoria shares stories and insights that redefine what Human Resources means in a post-pandemic, multi-generational business world. The discussion dives into everything from rem...

Doing your own taxes may seem like a smart way to save money—but it could be costing you more than you think. In episode 6 of "Two CPAs & the Mic," hosts Jeff Frable and Sara Mays sit down with Jordan Tudor to unpack the hidden costs of DIY tax prep, from missed deductions and penalties to costly setup mistakes for new businesses. We also share examples of how working with a CPA actually pays for...

When rates rise, stress follows - and for small business owners, that can spell trouble. So, who's in your corner when things get tough?  In this episode, Jeff and Sara sit down with Sean Kouplen, CEO and Chairman of Regent Bank, to unpack what rising interest rates, inflation, and regulatory shifts mean for small businesses - and why the relationship you have with your bank could make or break yo...