Jeff Frable Sara Mays
2 CPAs & The Mic
Welcome to "2 CPAs & The Mic," where we address the world of tax/accounting and business strategy without the jargon and stuffiness of the traditional CPA suits and jargon. Join Child of the 80's, Jeff Frable, CPA & CGMA, and totally 90's chic, Sara Mays, CPA, with real world people on the "The Mic" to bring you episodes packed with insightful chats, inspiring tales, and a sprinkle of humor as they give it to you straight. Whether you're a business owner or tax/accounting professional from the ancient times of checkbooks, paper, and faxes or the new age, all-digital, all-virtual world, "2 CPAs...
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Jeff Frable Sara Mays
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Jul 9, 2026
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Episodes
S2E22 - Leading with Purpose: Four Stories, Four Journeys, One Mission 09.07.2026 58:07
In this special episode of 2 CPAs & The Mic, CCK Strategies partners Sara, Kaitlin, Kyna, and Luann share the unconventional paths that led them to leadership and the lessons they've learned along the way. From discovering their "why" and embracing servant leadership to helping entrepreneurs navigate complex challenges, these women offer an honest look at what it takes to build a meaningful career...
*RERELEASE* The Owner's Seat: Leading Through the Mess to What's Next – with Lisa Riley 02.07.2026 1:25:07
In this episode of 2 CPAs & The Mic, Jeff Frable and Sara Mays sit down with entrepreneur Lisa Riley for a candid, high-energy conversation about what it really takes to build and lead a business through chaos. From oil-and-gas trade floors to scaling three Pinot's Palette studios, Lisa shares hard-earned lessons on leadership, cash flow reality, outsourcing your weaknesses, customer experience, h...
S2E21 - Purple Cow Strategy: Winning on Purpose with Dr. Toby Joplin 25.06.2026 1:04:50
What separates good businesses from unforgettable ones? Dr. Toby Joplin joins 2 CPAs & The Mic to break down the real drivers of sustainable success; clear strategy, authentic core values, and standout customer experiences. Drawing on his journey from public accounting to academia and consulting, Toby shares practical frameworks to help leaders define their vision, build data-driven strategies, an...
S2E20 - Where There's a Will: The Talk You Can't Afford to Skip - with Scott Helton 11.06.2026 1:03:07
Estate planning isn't just about what happens after you're gone. It's about protecting your family, your assets, and your peace of mind today. In this episode, estate planning attorney Scott Helton joins Jeff and Kristie to unpack the biggest misconceptions around wills, trusts, and probate, and how a lack of planning can create unnecessary stress, cost, and conflict for your family. Whether you'r...
S2E19 - Build a Firm That Scales: Trust, Strategy & the New Advisory Model – with Kathy Towne-Sautters 04.06.2026 1:22:42
In this episode of 2 CPAs & The Mic , Jeff Frable and Sara Mays sit down with Kathy Towne-Sautters of the BDO Alliance to unpack how the accounting profession is evolving beyond compliance into a true advisory powerhouse. Kathy shares why being a "connector" matters, how active listening builds trust faster than any sales pitch, and why firms can't afford to operate in a vacuum. They dive into the...
S2E18 - Bridging the Gap: Transitioning to Next Gen Leadership – with Scott Dannemiller 28.05.2026 57:43
This episode of 2 CPAs & The Mic explores leadership succession, focusing on transitions from founders to next-generation leaders. Scott Dannemiller shares that many challenges stem from communication gaps, imposter syndrome, and the "curse of knowledge." He outlines the distinct hurdles for internal and external successors and emphasizes that successful transitions require transparency, realist...
S2E17 - 401(k) Audit Essentials: Avoid Costly Mistakes 21.05.2026 54:56
What really happens during a 401(k) audit—and why should you care? Hosts Jeff Frable and Sara Mays sit down with Jeremy Smith to pull back the curtain on employee benefit plan audits, explaining key rules, common compliance traps, and the surprising ways things can go wrong. From simple payroll slip-ups to shocking fraud cases, this episode delivers both eye-opening stories and actionable advice t...
S2E16 - The Mental Health ROI: Why Culture Beats Compensation 14.05.2026 1:02:19
Workplace stress is at an all-time high, but burnout isn't just a personal issue, it's a relationship issue. In this candid and insightful conversation, hosts Jeff Frable and Sara Mays sit down with Chris King, owner of GPS Therapies, to unpack what's really happening to our mental health at work. With nearly 30 years of experience as a counselor and leader, Chris shares why every problem is a rel...
S2E15 - Lead with Hospitality. Earn Trust. Grow. 07.05.2026 1:05:12
What happens when fine-dining hospitality meets auto repair? In this episode, Jeff Frable and Sara Mays sit down with Russ Knight, owner of a Christian Brothers Automotive franchise in Tulsa, Oklahoma, to explore how the principles from Will Guidara's book Unreasonable Hospitality can transform even the most unexpected industries. Russ shares how applying a hospitality-first mindset—focused on lis...
S2E14 - Essential Business Etiquette Tips for Students and Professionals 30.04.2026 1:11:11
What really makes a great first impression in business and why do so many professionals get it wrong without realizing it? In this episode of 2 CPAs and The Mic, Jeff Frable and Sara Mays sit down with etiquette expert Rachel Wagner to break down modern business etiquette for today's entrepreneurs, students, and professionals. With nearly 20 years of experience, Rachel delivers clear, actionable...
S2E13 - Something Extra: Lessons from the Boardroom and the Valleys 23.04.2026 56:41
In this week's episode of 2 CPAs & The Mic, Jeff Frable and Sara Mays welcome Lisa Nichols, author, podcast host, CEO, and co-founder of Technology Partners. Together, they explore Lisa's 32-year journey of building a people-first IT firm alongside her husband, culminating in an impressive Net Promoter Score of 100. The conversation becomes personal as Lisa shares how her daughter Allie, who has...
S2E12 - Beyond April 15: The CHILI Tax Strategy for Business Owners 16.04.2026 53:53
April 15 th may have passed, but entrepreneurs have new opportunities to build on their success. In this episode of 2 CPAs & The Mic, CCK Strategies partners Jeff Frable and Sara Mays discuss what business owners should consider after the April 15th deadline. To keep things practical (and a little spicy), they introduce the CHILI framework, a simple, memorable approach to proactive tax strategy:...
S2E11 - Culture, Clarity, and the Brand Within with Jessica Lowe-Betts 09.04.2026 56:03
What's the real difference between branding and marketing—and why does it matter more than ever? In this episode, Jeff Frable and Sara Mays sit down with Jessica Lowe-Betts with Schnake Turnbo Frank to unpack how branding is less about logos and more about lived experience. Drawing from CCK Strategies' own brand identity journey during its transition to second generation leadership, Jessica shares...
S2E10 - Winning the Long Game: Mindset, Money, and Meaning with Mikey Manghum 02.04.2026 1:02:41
Mikey Manghum, VP and Financial Advisor at Regent Private Wealth, joins the podcast to unpack a powerful journey shaped by sports, mentorship, and purpose. From growing up overseas, playing Division 1 basketball to building a career centered on redeeming the narrative around money, Mikey shares how mindset, discipline, and calling have guided every chapter of his life. Mikey dives deep into why mi...
S2E9 - More Than Filling Seats: Recruiting That Shapes a Firm 19.03.2026 54:15
In this episode, CCK Strategies talent acquisition leaders Kusumika Ganguly and Carolyn McGuire share what they're truly listening for when interviewing experienced professionals, interns, and new graduates. They break down why coachability matters, how to clearly communicate your "why," and what helps candidates stand out beyond their resumes. Kusumika and Carolyn also debunk common recruiting my...
S2E8 - Building Lasting Connections Through Risk and Mentorship with Josh Juarez 12.03.2026 52:34
Josh Juarez joins Jeff Frable on the mic to share how a college side hustle became one of Tulsa's favorite summer traditions. He discusses his entrepreneurial journey, building snow cone shacks across Tulsa, and fostering a workplace culture that keeps teens returning each year. The conversation explores passing the leadership baton to family, and his latest venture—a year-round community hangout...
S2E7 - Addicted to Growth: Leadership Beyond the Comfort Zone with Michael Brody-Waite 05.03.2026 1:10:40
Michael Brody-Waite shares how his journey through addiction and recovery became the foundation for building a high ‑ growth company—and why he believes he's successful because of recovery, not despite it. He breaks down three leadership principles that matter in any high ‑ pressure profession: rigorous authenticity, surrendering the outcome, and doing uncomfortable work. Whether you're leading a...
S2E6 - How Sustainability Drives Profit, Not Just Purpose - with Lindsey Barbour 26.02.2026 52:52
What if sustainability wasn't a cost—but a competitive advantage? On this episode of 2 CPAs & The Mic, Jeff Frable and Sara Mays talk with teammate Lindsey Barbour about how business sustainability goes far beyond recycling bins and feel ‑ good messaging. Using the people, profit, planet approach, Lindsey shows how small and mid-sized businesses can lower operating costs, improve employee retentio...
S2E5 - The Family Office Mindset – with Cory Hatch, Ark Financial 19.02.2026 1:05:23
In this episode of 2 CPAs & The Mic, we sit down with Cory Hatch, Academy Director at Ark Financial, for a powerful conversation about what happens when professional success doesn't translate to peace at home. Cory shares his personal turning point, career setbacks, a 120-pound transformation, rebuilding his marriage, and how his journey has shaped his present mission. Cory introduces the idea of...
S2E4 - The Trust Report: How SOC Exams Protect Client Data – with Haley Legg 12.02.2026 1:01:16
What does "assurance" really mean and why does it matter to your business? On this episode of 2 CPAs & The Mic, Jeff Frable and Sara Mays sit down with Haley Legg, Director of Assurance at CCK Strategies, to decipher audits, reviews, compilations, and the growing importance of SOC examinations. Haley explains why an audit isn't always the right answer and how SOC reports have become a must‑have tr...
S2E3 - The Owner's Seat: Leading Through the Mess to What's Next - with Lisa Riley on The Mic 05.02.2026 1:24:18
In this episode of 2 CPAs & The Mic, Jeff Frable and Sara Mays sit down with entrepreneur Lisa Riley for a candid, high-energy conversation about what it really takes to build and lead a business through chaos. From oil-and-gas trade floors to scaling three Pinot's Palette studios, Lisa shares hard-earned lessons on leadership, cash flow reality, outsourcing your weaknesses, customer experience, h...
S2E2 - From Feeling to Follow-Through: Messaging That Delivers Results 22.01.2026 51:10
Brand is far more than a logo—it's the feeling people carry with them. In this episode of 2 CPAs & The Mic, Johnie Hampton joins our hosts and breaks down the difference between brand and marketing. He gives an inside look at his team's collaborative creative process and explains why a humble, people ‑ first culture consistently outperforms even the best strategies. We also dig into AI as a true c...
S2E1 - Back on the Mic: More People, More Perspective, More Purpose 15.01.2026 33:57
We're back—and grateful. In the season 2 kickoff of 2 CPAs & The Mic, Jeff Frable, Sara Mays & Kristie Porter reflect on growth, vulnerability, and what it means to serve people well. You'll hear about the moments that stretched us in season 1 and the vision driving season 2: connection over complexity, conversation over jargon, and practical guidance you can use today. We preview topics like fina...
S1E30 - Next Stop: Season Two 30.10.2025 46:50
Thirty episodes later, we're closing the books on Season 1! Join Jeff, Sara and Kristie as they celebrate the journey from "let's try this" to a full-blown podcast with loyal listeners. In this episode, we share behind-the-scenes stories, favorite moments, and a major life update that will make you smile. Plus, we reveal what's next for Season 2—fresh topics, exciting guests, and a new cadence to...
S1E29 - Mastering Your Legacy: Estate Planning Essentials 23.10.2025 56:04
In this episode of 2 CPAs and The Mic, hosts Jeff Frable and Sara Mays sit down with Dewan Chowdhury, Partner at CCK Strategies, for a deep dive into the world of estate planning. From defining what an estate truly is to navigating the complexities of wills, trusts, and tax strategies, Dewan breaks down the essentials with clarity and insight. Whether you're just starting your estate plan or revis...
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