The Defiant
The Defiant
The internet of money is being built with blockchain technology and without banks. We call it DeFi, short for Decentralized Finance, and this is where you can hear the builders and users of this cutting edge world tell their stories first hand. Hosted by Camila Russo.
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7 de jul. de 2026
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Saylor Selling BTC: Strategy Lifeline or Betrayal? 07.07.2026 10:19
Michael Saylor built his entire identity around one promise: he would never sell Bitcoin. Last week, that promise ended. Strategy's board voted to authorize selling Bitcoin to cover dividend payments and build cash reserves — in the middle of MSTR and STRC crashing to record lows, the yield blowing up, and confidence in the whole experiment starting to crack. Is this a rational pivot? Or the b...
Inside the Ethereum Foundation Overhaul: is a Multi-Node Structure Bullish? 01.07.2026 13:34
The Ethereum Foundation just cut 20% of its staff and 40% of its budget. Two co-executive directors are gone. And the talent exodus has been quiet but real. But the community didn't wait. In a matter of weeks, 50 institutions and Ethereum leaders came together to form ETH Labs — a new organization backed by Sharp Link, Joe Lubin, and Bitmain, with a mandate to build what the Foundation decide...
"Bazooka in Every Hand" Do We Really Want Unstoppable AI? w/ Jake Brukhman, Haseeb Qureshi, Jesus Rodriguez 19.06.2026 26:13
Last Friday, the U.S. Department of Commerce forced Anthropic to shut down Fable V for the entire world. One government, one decision, zero global access. Is this the definitive case for decentralized AI? Jake Brukhman (Coin Fund), Jesus Rodriguez (Sentora), and Haseeb Qureshi (Dragonfly) debate the hottest topic at the intersection of crypto and AI: whether frontier AI can and should be decentral...
DeFi's Near-Death Moment | Mike Silagadze on Ether.fi, Security, and What Comes Next 08.06.2026 45:29
How close did DeFi come to a real systemic collapse? In this episode, Camila Russo sits down with Mike Silagadze, co-founder and CEO of Ether.fi, to break down the Kelp exploit, the DeFi United rescue effort, and why Mike believes the default path could have been far worse if nobody had stepped in. He explains why the bigger lesson is not just smart contract risk, but operational security, app-lay...
DeFi Hacks Happening Every Day; Institutions Are Still Coming 01.06.2026 56:59
April saw some of the worst DeFi losses in recent memory, and even OpenZeppelin co-founder Manuel Aráoz warned people to get out. But while CT feels gloomy, institutions are not stepping back - they're leaning in with more diligence, stronger infrastructure requirements, and growing demand for onchain yield. In this livestream, Camila Russo is joined by John Zettler of Kraken, Sunand Raghupath...
Top Talent Is Leaving the EF. What Happens to ETH Now? 25.05.2026 52:28
Top Ethereum talent is leaving. The Ethereum Foundation is shrinking. And one question now hangs over the entire ecosystem: what happens to ETH if the EF steps back? In this livestream, Camila Russo is joined by Dankrad Feist, Laura Shin, Ajit Tripathi, and William Mougayar to break down the EF departures, leadership turmoil, the cypherpunk mandate, the debate over tokenomics, and whether Ethereum...
DeFi Yields Are Too Damn Low! Here's Why 14.05.2026 56:35
DeFi is approaching a breaking point. After a wave of hacks and growing concerns around smart contract risk, liquidity risk, and hidden dependencies, the biggest question in crypto is no longer just how much yield you can earn, but whether that yield is actually worth the risk. In this debate, Camila Russo is joined by Santiago Roel Santos of Inversion, Daniele Ugolini of Rysk Finance, and Maurici...
The $300M DeFi Bailout: Heroic or Unsustainable? 30.04.2026 58:52
Explosive debate: after one of DeFi's biggest attacks left Aave facing bad debt, DeFi United raised more than $300M to stop the contagion. But did the ecosystem prove its strength - or expose hidden trust assumptions, opaque risk, and the need for a real DeFi backstop? The Defiant's Camila Russo is joined by Dean Eigenmann (Markets Inc.), binji (Ethereum Foundation), and David Phelps (Conf...
Should Arbitrum Have Frozen North Korea's Funds? Griff Green vs. Gabe Shapiro 23.04.2026 56:49
The Arbitrum Security Council just made one of the most controversial decisions in DeFi history — freezing $70M in ETH stolen by North Korean hackers from the KelpDAO bridge exploit. But was it the right move? And what does it say about the systems we're building? Griff Green (Giveth Co-Founder and Arbitrum Security Council member) and Gabe Shapiro / Lex_node (crypto lawyer, MetaLex founder, Z...
Quantum Could Break Bitcoin Sooner Than We Thought | Alex Pruden 10.04.2026 35:53
Two new research papers just intensified one of crypto’s most serious long-term risks: quantum computing. In this episode of The Defiant Podcast, Camila Russo sits down with Alex Pruden, co-founder and CEO of Project 11, to unpack what the latest quantum breakthroughs actually mean for Bitcoin, Ethereum, and the broader crypto ecosystem. Alex explains why the new papers matter, how quantum compute...
Omer Goldberg: The DeFi Exploit That Exposed a Bigger Problem 30.03.2026 41:22
A new DeFi exploit triggered millions in losses, but the deeper story is about risk. In this episode, Omer Goldberg, founder of Chaos Labs, explains how the attack unfolded, why the damage spread across lending markets, what vault curators got wrong, and whether DeFi is truly ready for mainstream adoption. If you want to understand stablecoin risk, oracle design, curator incentives, and the future...
How the DTCC is Tokenizing $100 Trillions in Assets | Tom Sullivan 20.03.2026 42:46
What happens when the institution at the center of U.S. market plumbing starts putting securities onchain? In this episode of The Defiant, Chris Storaker sits down with Tom Sullivan, Managing Director at DTCC Digital Assets, to discuss how DTCC is approaching tokenization, why regulatory clarity changed the game, and what it means for U.S. Treasuries, stocks, ETFs, collateral, and 24/7 markets. To...
Will Aave’s New Plan Change DeFi Forever? | Stani Kulechov Explains 13.03.2026 52:22
New Podcast with Aave founder Stani Kulechov just dropped: Aave is at a turning point - will the Aave Will Win proposal lead to innovation or chaos? Aave is navigating a pivotal moment with the recent "Aave will win" proposal. This initiative aims to redirect 100% of protocol revenue back to the Aave DAO, a move that many in the community have embraced. But with any major change comes sc...
Optimism Is Done With “Ethereum Alignment” — Users Come First 06.03.2026 36:59
In this episode of The Defiant Podcast, Camila Russo sits down with Jing Wang to discuss how Optimism is evolving and why the debate over what counts as a “real” Ethereum L2 might be missing the point. Jing argues that the most important question isn’t whether a chain is an L1, L2, or sidechain. It’s whether the architecture actually serves users and real-world use cases. “If it looks like an L1,...
Did L2 Fragment Ethereum? - With Yuval Rooz, CEO of Digital Asset, Co-Founder of Canton 27.02.2026 51:45
Layer 2 was supposed to scale Ethereum. But what if it fragmented it instead? I n this episode, we break down: • Why public chains are “expensive databases” • Why composability is Ethereum’s real value • Why stablecoins don’t need blockchains • Why L2 may be weakening Ethereum’s core Is scaling helping Ethereum — or hollowing it out? Explore The Defiant ✨
The Bitcoin Renaissance Legacy : Beyond Digital Gold Ep. 2 26.02.2026 20:41
Bitcoin Renaissance or JPEG Hype? In 2023, Bitcoin had what many called a renaissance. NFTs on Bitcoin. BRC-20 tokens. Runes.10x transaction spikes. Fee revenue surging to levels not seen since 2017.And then — just as quickly — it cooled. So was the Bitcoin renaissance just a flash in the pan? Or did Ordinals, BRC-20s, and Runes permanently change Bitcoin? In Episode 2 of our Beyond Digital Gold d...
Why DAO Governance Always Turns Political 20.02.2026 55:56
"In a decentralized governance system, it's unavoidable to develop politics." Rune Christensen explains why DAO governance becomes a struggle for resources, how the "iron law of bureaucracy" emerges, and why Sky redesigned its architecture to survive it. From USDS growth to the Atlas rulebook and Genesis Capital — this is Sky's long-term vision for sustainable decentral...
Robinhood’s Crypto Head Johann Kerbrat on Why Public Blockchains Will Win 11.02.2026 41:21
Robinhood is opening the testnet for its Arbitrum-based Ethereum Layer 2. In this episode, we sit down with the fintech’s head of crypto, Johann Kerbrat, to discuss the strategic move to build on Ethereum. He believes institutions can get the privacy and compliance guarantees they need on public chains like Ethereum, so building on private chains doesn’t make sense as they are just a “fancy databa...
Rebuilding Global Payments with Stablecoins | Circle & USDC with Nikhil Chandhok 06.02.2026 45:53
Stablecoins have quietly become the most successful use case in crypto. In this episode, Nikhil Chandhok, Chief Product & Technology Officer at Circle, explains why USDC is more than a digital dollar — it’s a global financial network. We discuss economic inclusion, internet-scale finance, programmable payments, emerging markets, AI-driven payments, and why stablecoins are becoming the backbone...
Crypto’s Point of No Return: Institutions are Finally Here, with Brett Tejpaul 04.02.2026 49:08
2025 marked a turning point for crypto. In this episode, Brett Tejpaul, head of Coinbase Institutional, sits down with Camila Russo to explain why institutional adoption accelerated last year. From ETFs and stablecoin regulation to banks using public blockchains in production, crypto crossed a line it can’t uncross. We explore how Coinbase evolved from a retail exchange into a global financial inf...
Why OG DeFi Failed | Kain Warwick, Founder of Synthetix 30.01.2026 54:22
Kain Warwick —DeFi OG and founder of Synthetix and Infinex —is back on The Defiant Podcast with Camila Russo for a no-BS conversation at a pivotal moment: Infinex just ran its INX token sale and is heading into its TGE. We get into: Why Kain believes DeFi’s biggest bottleneck isn’t “more decentralization,” but UX + distribution The hard lesson OG DeFi learned: users won’t “learn to love complexity...
Ethereum is for Institutions: Danny Ryan Says Tokenization Isn't Enough 29.01.2026 26:10
In this interview, Camila Russo sits down with Danny Ryan — former Ethereum Foundation researcher and a key leader behind Ethereum’s shift to proof of stake — now Co-Founder & President at Etherealize , to talk about the next big wave for crypto: institutional adoption of Ethereum . Recorded in Buenos Aires during Devconnect , Danny breaks down why the mood inside banks has flipped from “we ca...
How Stablecoins Are Rewiring Global Payments | Borderless CPO Alex Garn 09.01.2026 25:33
In this episode of The Defiant Podcast, Chris Storaker sits down with Alex Garn, Chief Product Officer at Borderless, to unpack how stablecoins are quietly transforming cross-border payments — and what it actually takes to move money at scale across jurisdictions. Alex walks through Borderless’ role as an orchestration layer for global on- and off-ramps, why the company stays out of the flow of fu...
The Rise of the Fan Economy | Consumer Crypto | Avalanche Ecosystems Ep. 4 05.01.2026 18:26
For consumer crypto to thrive it needs to embrace financialization to deliver a better experience, and maker sure crypto disappears everywhere else. Projects doing this right sit in an emerging sector called fantech. In this episode of the Avalanche Ecosystem Series, we explore the rise of Fantech: a new category where sports fans, music fans, creators, and event-goers become participants in real...
Uniswap is about to “turn on the switch.” with Hayden Adams 22.12.2025 1:08:18
In this episode of The Defiant Podcast, Uniswap founder Hayden Adams joins us right as the UNIfication (Unification) proposal has moved to a final governance vote—a sweeping plan from Uniswap Labs + the Uniswap Foundation that would activate protocol fees, introduce a programmatic UNI burn, and realign how value accrues across the Uniswap ecosystem. We go deep on what’s actually inside the propos...
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