Daniel Coulbourne & John Drexler

Talking Businessly

We (John and Daniel) are co-founders of a small software development agency. This is a recording of our weekly "state of the company" call where we discuss the nitty gritty details of running our business day-to-day. Want to work with us? Reach out at thunk.dev

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Daniel Coulbourne & John Drexler

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Business

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Último episodio

9 de jul. de 2026

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Episodios

71: No dogs, no ponies 19.08.2025

We are streamers now. Kapow now has a client portal. John has a new podcast . We had another accounting / tax crisis that has driven us to the edge of sanity.

70: A deeply unserious Laracon recap 12.08.2025

If you're looking for that incisive, smart business insight, go ahead and skip this one. We talk dogs, Laracon, John's talk , Laravel Forge, the upcoming Livewire conference, game design, The Social Game , a video John's obsessed with, and Rust (the video game).

69: We'd be richer if we lied more 14.07.2025

We discuss the Beatles. Daniel reviewed John's code on the Social Game. Finally, we lost a proposal for a big contract. We wonder if the entire RFP process is antithetical to what we do.

68: The pitch to the "lower middle market" 08.07.2025

Daniel and Chris are nearly done with Verbs 1.0. We settle into our new roles. John prepares another talk directed at non-tech companies. Finally, we think through what we want the business to look like at the end of the year. And we recap where we are with Kapow.

67: We fire Daniel (from project management) 30.06.2025

We played the Social Game a lot, and it's so cool. Daniel is not going to do project management at Thunk anymore, and we brainstorm how we backfill for him. Finally, we review our OKRs for the first half of the year.

66: Empaneling Erin Antcliffe 10.06.2025

Erin is an outstanding product manager who is fairly new to the agency world. She shares her feedback on our process. We brainstorm how to position and sell our product management services. 

65: Being uncomfortably explicit 02.06.2025

Daniel got a 3D printer. John got a new iPhone that he feels meh about. We are feeling out how to consult when there are issues way outside of our control. Getting uncomfortably explicit is awkward in the moment, but makes everyone happy later. John has a wild story about Emily Belz's article . 

64: Kapow! 27.05.2025

We hung out in Philly and had a little role reversal. Chill clients abound. The sales funnel is decent. We talk about who Kapow is really for, and brainstorm what features are next. 

63: We sent invoices from the client app 12.05.2025

Spring is here, and the boys are out frolicking. We sent our first invoices from the client app. The Laracon game is going to be its own company. Clothing sizes are a lie. 

62: Useful anxiety 05.05.2025

We watched a lot of movies, and gambled a little. We are deep into silly season, and talk about our relationship with anxiety. Finally, we talk about politics and urbanism again. 

61: Empaneling Ian Landsman 29.04.2025

We are now a professional podcast. Ian Landsman gives us some feedback on our goals, and our new client app. He is smart. And we don't talk about poker even once! 

60: Our biggest client yet 21.04.2025

John got star struck on Easter. Daniel got a new couch. We got a big new client. John is working nights and weekends on the Laracon game, and it's awesome. Daniel is working on the client app. We review OKRs.

59: We lost a client for good reasons 14.04.2025

John is locked in, and made a playlist so you can lock in too. We are in silly season, but we have an excellent new PM who will get us through. We lost a client, but for good reasons. We recap what we learned. John is grinding on the new game, and Daniel gives technical guidance. We try to diagnose what's wrong with tv writing. The Iranian film maker John couldn't remember is Kiarostami . Here's a...

58: Finding the real decision maker 07.04.2025

John's Macbook air is having problems. We made a bonus episode. We have a new trick for finding the decision maker at a prospective client. Always negotiate. We LOVE Adolescence. Finally, we talk politics :(

Bonus Episode: PHP × NYC Chaos-Cast™ 07.04.2025

At a PHP x NYC event, we realized we had a critical mass of Laravel podcasters. Apologies for the audio problems. 

57: Sunsetting Papercuts 31.03.2025

Spring is here. John was on the Over Engineered podcast to discuss running product processes on small teams. We are sunsetting Papercuts. We do a quick retro about why, and what we learned. John did a heroic refactor on the new client app. Daniel is making home improvements

56: Chunks of work 24.03.2025

John got married. We got paid by a delinquent client. John spoke at PHP x Philly. The client management app is getting really good, which can now invoice clients. Finally, John thinks tv is maybe bad.

55: Vertical Slices 24.02.2025

You need to build vertically, not horizontally. Also: Point Break is a good movie ( Broey Deschanel 's analysis). We helped a client dismiss a scammy wordpress agency. Squarespace is good. Daniel bought a suit. John is making a DJ set, and thanks Daniel for being the reason he learned to do that.

54: Building without a blueprint 17.02.2025

Why do old special effects look good? Pennsylvania needs better websites. John wants to speak a lot more. We are building our PM business, but don't have an obvious blueprint to follow. 

53: Be a great place to work (empaneling Bossman Chris) 10.02.2025

We empanel Bossman Chris . Daniel and Chris survived Philly's Super Bowl celebration. We recap Laracon EU, and give high praise to Amsterdam. Chris counsels us on how to be a great place to work.

52: Coaching clients to have more urgency 27.01.2025

We talk retro video games. Daniel is wiring up his whole home. John preps for his Laracon talk. We recap what we learned from an uncomfortable client moment. We finalize our OKRs. John was on Joe Tannenbaum's podcast talking about games . John talks about doing jiu jitsu against the Dutch. 

51: John built the client management app 🤫 20.01.2025

John built the MVP client app! Daniel watched Survivor. We brainstorm what we want out of our 2025 OKRs. 

50: Growing our product team 13.01.2025

We talk about how it will work to have another PM around, the paradox of project scoping, good interview questions, and the power of learning from retros. On a less businessly note, we also talk Survivor, Pecking Order, gas leaks, soothing YouTube videos , cable management, and trying to feed our notes into ChatGPT.

49: What does success look like in 2025? 06.01.2025

We do a little vision casting for what a great year would look like. We have some disagreements about sales, plan to remove ourselves as individual contributors from many clients, and to get better at scheduling / planning. 

48: Holiday party 09.12.2024

Daniel is moving, and we have some business logistics to figure out. We want to hire a junior PM. We do a roundup of our OKR results. We also talk game of the year, John is about to release a digital game, and get into the weeds testing a board game.

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