Daniel Coulbourne & John Drexler
Talking Businessly
We (John and Daniel) are co-founders of a small software development agency. This is a recording of our weekly "state of the company" call where we discuss the nitty gritty details of running our business day-to-day. Want to work with us? Reach out at thunk.dev
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Daniel Coulbourne & John Drexler
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Jul 9, 2026
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Episodes
96: Neither great, nor drunk 09.07.2026 45:08
John is back from his honeymoon. Daniel played in a poker tournament. We talk about a wide range of topics, none of which have anything to do with running a web development agency.
95: We get hired to resolve unpleasantness 10.06.2026 54:19
We have a new client. We have so many topics we can't discuss. So we talk about fun things instead.
94: How to get paid 12.05.2026 33:38
We got $40k that was owed to use months ago.
93: Be a good guy 28.04.2026 36:03
We talk about BJJ, but I promise it's actually interesting. We plead with a former client to be a good guy.
92: The trap I set for you seems to have caught my leg instead 21.04.2026 41:08
We're learning a lot from early Tidy users. We're sending a cease and desist.
91: The agency's agency 16.04.2026 39:08
We have an idea to do Thunk marketing and Tidy marketing at the same time. And it feels like a breakthrough.
90: You have to pre-launch before you launch 02.04.2026 40:46
Tidy marketing is in full swing. Please join our mailing list to support the launch! tidyup.agnecy
89: The zero risk agency (empaneling Justin Jackson) 19.03.2026 1:23:23
After hemming and hawing for 20 minutes, we are joined by the inimitable Justin Jackson . He gives us an absolute treasure trove of good advice for launching and marketing Tidy .
88: Setting pass/fail criteria on our projects 14.03.2026 49:31
Laracon. EU was a blast. We continue to develop the sales funnel. We need to know whether our growth plans are actually working. So we set some simple goals for the next 6 weeks.
87: tidyup.agency 24.02.2026 34:34
We have quietly launched our client management app. It has invoices, agreements, schedules, time sheets, reports, and more. We'll be doing a full marketing blitz soon. Daniel has been cooking up an extremely cool AI feature.
86: Holacracy, if you can keep it 18.02.2026 36:52
John went on a Claude frenzy, and Kapow is nearly here. We reach out to bankers and learn a little bit about how their world works. John believes in benevolent dictatorships more than "flat organizations."
85: Our billion dollar theory of the future 03.02.2026 51:37
It feels like there's a dark cloud over web development right now. So where does Thunk fit into the future, and how do we win? We lay it all out here.
84: You are here 27.01.2026 43:16
We had a very bad week. In related news, we are looking for a new client.
83: Do a good job ™ 06.01.2026 39:15
Our goal for 2026 is to do a good job. John wants to start doing some serious, long term business development.
82: AI fatigue 16.12.2025 43:22
We gave ourselves raises. John is weary of AI. Daniel is using Claude skills.
81: We set up pay bands 09.12.2025 42:03
We hired someone. We set up standardized pay bands. We discuss how we use AI, and what makes a bad AI-driven pull request. We like Three Body Problem. John sang in choir.
80: Late fees are unenforceable 20.11.2025 45:24
Marketing works. Late fees don't. John is speaking at Laracon EU! We review our OKRs and cash situation. John has more mic issues.
79: The wire:live retro (empaneling Caleb Porzio) 11.11.2025 1:15:08
Our dear friend Caleb Porzio drops by for some laughs, and a retrospective on Wire:live. We discuss what went well, what could improve, and what we'll do differently next time.
78: Empaneling Matt Stauffer 06.11.2025 53:34
Matt runs Tighten , and is a kind of big brother to us. We ask him about running agencies, building teams, hiring senior developers, and a lot more. Watch his new Laracast series " How to Build a Dev Team " now.
77: Silly season takes no prisoners 20.10.2025 42:13
Our biggest client had a problem. We tried to get out in front of it, with mixed success. Here's what we learned. Join the new social game here . Listen to John's clickbait episode about it here .
76: Pitching our next conference talks 30.09.2025 1:01:18
We are busy as heck, with more work coming in. Forge launches this week. Wire:live is filling up fast. Listen to John's new game podcast . We brainstorm the next conference talks we want to give.
75: The good kind of scary 16.09.2025 38:57
We're at an exciting but scary inflection point as a company. Wire:live is filling up fast! John is sad about the internet, but excited about real life. Daniel likes Billy Joel.
74: Radical truth telling 09.09.2025 41:24
We landed a big client, and things are heating up. We learned once again that telling the truth and being candid is the best path.
73: Be a sustainable business 02.09.2025 53:02
We finally talk about our OKRs for the remainder of the year.
72: wire:live 28.08.2025 1:04:31
Wire:live in Buffalo October 28. Get your tickets today! We had some technical difficulties, and weren't even sure if it was recording, so this one is all over the place. Spicy takes, jack booted thugs, A24, Weapons, video games, and restaurants.
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