Pod of Never

On today's episode, I talk with actor/comedian/writer and host of the Smashing Pumpkast Frank Garcia-Hejl! We talk about how he got involved with comedy, doing a commercial with Bautista, auditioning at SNL, and his passion project, the Smashing Pumpkast podcast, and much more! Need a re-brand or to start your brand off on the right foot with clear messaging and visuals? Check out ⁠⁠⁠Chapters...

This episode is a conversation I had with Jordan Divecha from Everyday Innovation! We talked about how I navigated integrating my passion for creating and storytelling into my non-linear career. Enjoy! Need a re-brand or to start your brand off on the right foot? Check out ⁠⁠⁠⁠Chapters Creative⁠⁠⁠⁠ for all of your brand strategy needs. https://www.chapterscreative.com/sixsignsbrandstrategy Listen...

And we're back with a new mini episode talking about the lessons I learned from the series finale of Loki and what it means to have a "glorious purpose" in building your art or business! Need a re-brand or to start your brand off on the right foot? Check out ⁠⁠⁠Chapters Creative⁠⁠⁠ for all of your brand strategy needs. Listen to Swans of Never on ⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠ , ⁠⁠⁠Apple Music⁠⁠⁠ , o...

On today's episode, I talk with Steve Babcock about his new gig at Marketing Architects, his time working with Gary Vaynerchuk, his time in the music scene with Hudson River School, and more! Need a re-brand or to start your brand off on the right foot? Check out ⁠⁠Chapters Creative⁠⁠ for all of your brand strategy needs. Listen to Swans of Never on ⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠ , ⁠⁠Apple Music⁠⁠ , or ⁠⁠Bandcam...

On today's episode, Tim Crisp from the Better Yet and As You Were podcasts drops by to talk about how he got into punk, how living in a house show duplex forged his DIY ethics, how wrestling influences his work, his foray into web development, and bringing all of yourself into what you do. Check out Better Yet , As You Were , and https://www.riffin.io/demo ! Need a re-brand or to start your br...

On this episode of the Pod of Never, I talk to Jono Diener! We talk about the process of being a band dude to a professional creative and how they intersect!  All of this and more in this episode of Pod of Never! Check out Jono's LinkedIn , 84 Tigers' tour dates , and No Trigger's tour dates ! Need a re-brand or to start your brand off on the right foot? Check out Chapters Creative for all of...

In this episode of Pod of Never, I talk to Andrew Zell!  We talk about his formative years in Lancaster, PA, where he grew up in the metalcore scene. We talk about how he got his start, playing with One Year Later, his time working with CI Records, his move to Milwaukee to run a flipping business, and his current work with Zoom! We also talk about important lessons from being in the music ind...

What's the similarity between product and brand marketing and being in a band? In this episode, Anthony Pierri talks about how product marketing helped his band Good Hangs succeed and how bands and businesses can do the same.  We also talk about important lessons from being in the music industry that can help professionals! All of this and more in this episode of Pod of Never! Check out Antho...

In this episode, I talk to Jack Longman from Longman Media! He's a social media manager who learned the foundations of his professional craft while being in a band and helping others run their social media accounts.  We talk about what he learned while playing and touring with his former band Giants and how it helps him professionally. Check out Jack's LinkedIn and Longman Media ! Need a re-b...

FINALLY, the return of Pod of Never! There's no better way to come back than to have one of my favorite creators on the show, Finn McKenty (The Punk Rock MBA).  We talk about his history growing up in the DIY scene and how he found his way through his professional career in light of what he learned and what *not* to do because of the scene. If you grew up going to punk shows and want a career...

Big episode today! Today I chat with one of my favorite songwriters, Chris Browder from MANSIONS. We talk about his songwriting process, learning how to record, getting tips from producer Mike Sapone, why he decided to focus on his 9-to-5 career, and much more.  Also, listen to the first sneak peek of my new song "Work (Baptize Me When I'm Dead)," a song I did with Dan Whitesides from The Use...

Miss out on me and Brighton's Beatles nerd-out session on the Spotify-exclusive Pod of Never Radio? Never fear! Here's the audio from that episode along with a very special Beatles power rankings! Enjoy! Enjoy! Check out Neuer Geist ! Listen to Swans of Never on Spotify , Apple Music , or Bandcamp ! Support the show on my Patreon ! Enjoy the episode? Tips are accepted!

A guest bailed, but I wanted to make sure I have some content out for the hardcore Pod of Never fans! In this episode, I talk about pushing through discouragement when working on artistic projects! Enjoy! Listen to Swans of Never on Spotify , Apple Music , or Bandcamp ! Enjoy the episode? Tips are accepted!

Today’s podcast is with my friend Derek Ballard. I’ve known him for many years from the punk and hardcore scene in Salt Lake City. He plays in the hardcore band Despite Despair and him and his wife Brighton lead their design agency Neuer Geist and their printing arm of the business Riso Giest. Along with the client work they do, they also create great merchandise featuring their talents like t-shi...

It's wild to be able to talk to an artist only days after falling in love with a song. Well, that's just what happened to me when I got to interview Snow Ellet. Someone had tweeted Snow's song "To Some I'm Genius" into my Twitter timeline and it blew me away. I rushed to DM Snow to set up an interview and two days later we had this conversation and I'm very glad we did because did we just become b...

I'M BACK! Even though I've had some episodes in the past few months, I'm back to a regular schedule now that I'm back in the Land of the Salty Lake. This episode is with my friend Miranda Reinert. She creates zines, newsletters, and she co-hosts a podcast. She has a great point of view on music, the music business, and she has a great way of melding her views on music with her vulnerability. ...

I'm back with a retrospective on this past year! I talk about a few things that I've learned through my experiences being in lockdown, working jobs, and trying to maintain my creative output. Listen to Swans of Never on Spotify , Apple Music , or Bandcamp ! Enjoy the episode? Tips are accepted!

A VERY special episode where I talk to one of my biggest influences, Jonah Matranga. We talk about home recording, writing songs, how to know when a project is finished, and inspiring others to create. But before that, I premiere my new single "Reservations (For The End of the World)".  Also, I have a couple of big life announcements and get a little personal, so if you want to fast-forward t...

A VERY special episode where I talk to one of my biggest influences, Jonah Matranga. We talked for a *very* long time so this is part one of two podcasts where we talk about his philosophy "The Zen of Suck", being a trailblazer for modern music business practices, dealing with hecklers, and much more. This one means a lot to me so check it out! Check Jonah Matranga on his website ! Listen to Swans...

Josaleigh Pollett is back! A lot in the world has changed since the last time we spoke way back on episode three . I catch up with her to talk about how COVID and protests have changed her views on the promotion of her great album, No Woman Is The Sea, and so much more. Check out Josaleigh Pollett on Spotify and Bandcamp ! Listen to Swans of Never on Spotify , Apple Music , or Bandcamp ! Enjoy the...

On this episode, I am joined by Greg Jehanian from mewithoutYou and Geology! We talk about how he's been weathering COVID, how he created his latest Geology record, the responsibility of the artist in times of social upheaval, and his hilarious and fun Instagram livestream. Check out mewithoutYou and Geology ! Listen to Swans of Never on Spotify , Apple Music , or Bandcamp ! Enjoy the episode? Tip...

The episode title explains it all!  I talk about my maiden voyage livestreaming with high-quality sound on Facebook and I tell you how to do it and repurpose it for your Patreon or other! Also, you get to hear my first livestream for yourself! Download Blackhole here. Listen to Swans of Never on Spotify , Apple Music , or Bandcamp ! Enjoy the episode? Tips are accepted!

This week I talk to my friend, Dusty Redmon of Beloved! We talk entirely too much about Cookout, resetting Beloved's 2020 plans with the postponement of Furnace Fest 2020, being a "lifer", and the positives of being the "chill" person in a band, and MORE. Enjoy the episode? Tips are accepted! Check out Beloved and Crenshaw Pentecostal ! Listen to Swans of Never on Spotify , Apple Music , or Bandca...

On this episode, I catch up with my friend and former roommate, Jeff Stuckel, but you might know him as Keyoung. As Keyoung, he creates hip-hop-inspired spoken word centered around his brutally honest takes on faith and social justice. I talk to him about his ups and downs with art, Christianity, and his love for sewing and repurposing clothes. It was great to catch up with him and I hope you enjo...

If this is your first time listening to the show, welcome! My goal of the show is to have conversations with artists and professionals and learn about their origin stories and processes of how they create and share their work. This episode is close to my heart. Today, I talk with one of the longest friends and former bandmates, in our high school band My White Room and later on in Gaza, Casey Hans...