Not Part of the Plan

Jordan and Jason reflect on the past six months as they wrap up their first season of Not Part of the Plan.

In this powerful episode, Jason bravely shares his personal journey through sexual abuse, revealing the sources of strength that led him to open up and the ongoing struggles he faces. Despite the pain, he offers a message of hope and resilience for others on a similar path.

Jordan and Jason share their thoughts about heaven, and whether it being real (or not) affects the way they live.

Bonus episode: a recording of Jordan's keynote address to the VCS graduating class of 2024. Themes of living life to the full, making the most of moments, and above all, love.

Jason shares about his experience with loss at a young age and the effect it had on him growing up. Jordan talks about the importance of giving grace both during and after trauma.

Jason and Jordan share stories of the early days of meeting their spouses, how trauma shaped and continues to effect their relationships, and why loving someone means doing anything for them.

The second half of the Faith and Purpose episode. Jason and Jordan finish a few thoughts about what gets them going in each day, the juxtaposition between being happy for others while traveling through your own grief, and why it's been hard to go to church. Part 2 of 2.

Jason and Jordan discuss bad words, faith, prayer, and more, all while wondering if they're even asking the right questions. Part 1 of 2.

Jordan and Jason talk about their experiences with receiving help during difficult times.

Jason talks about what it was like to go back to work after recovering from cancer. Jordan shares about his shifting priorities and how his idea of a successful life has changed.

Jordan introduces an audio recording he found of his late wife, Amy, sharing about the joy she has in knowing the complete story of life and death.

Jordan talks about his recent solo travels and how it's brought mixed feelings of joy and grief. Jason describes his journey with depression and anxiety, including what's helped him along the way and where he's finding hope.

Jason and Jordan introduce their stories and share what led them to start a podcast together. This episode covers topics of health, friendship, loss, and hope.