Let's Dig into That

How do we stay in the moment, remember to put our phones down, invest in family time while working our tushes off to prepare for the increasingly unpredictable and expensive future, and then pretend we give a flying Ferd about the laundry?? J.T. claims he's the big picture guy , that the dishes can wait because the clock is ticking on the time to create. Jordan wants to live from the big picture p...

It's truth-tellin' time! Jordan and J.T. have set up camp in the land of Exhaustive Honesty. While they sleep well at night, the dangers of telling the truth still lurk in the landscape. In a relationship that began as a makeshift confessional, when does the truth become an emotional liability? Listen to discover: - Benefits of owning what's real and right for you - Radical honesty in a relationsh...

If it were a contest, Jordan would win. She's the believer, the Manifestation Maker, a sign-reading aspiration junkie focused on the long game. J.T. sees Jordan's wall of vision boards and has witnessed her savvy work, but he's unsure about magic (...in general) and the freedom to dream without apology. With miracles on the line, listen to discover: - Hello Universe! Forget about me? - Negative se...

J.T. woke up feeling dangerous...using obscenities like midlife and aging , euphemisms for a body slowing down . He wants to dig into the thrill of getting older one month before Jordan's (41st) birthday...Brave soul. In this episode, Jordan and J.T. explore the connection between the mind and body during midlife -ish . Listen to discover: - Whether midlife brings more clarity or confusion - How a...

THANK YOU, Rage Pirates and Love Ninjas! You asked...now Jordan and J.T. are jonesing to answer. From relationship rules and vulnerable risks to unorthodox advice and travel tips...it's not exactly rapid fire. This episode promises to poke your comfort zone and get you thinking about connection. If you have an inquiry or topic you’d like Jordan and J.T. to dig into, please send an email or voice m...

You went there; you said the True Thing about yourself - and the reaction is an "emotional cringe." Have you ever felt judged or criticized after a moment of vulnerability? If you've experienced "sharer's remorse" after opening up, rest assured you are not alone! A vulnerability hangover is characterized by feelings of shame, guilt, regret, and fear that usually occur in the aftermath of taking an...

Who doesn't want to hear forever insights from newly-ish weds...on their second time around? Is forever a fairy tale ending or a voluntary life sentence? Join Jordan and J.T. as they flesh out what it means today to entertain the idea of forever. In this episode, discover: - Curiosity: why the long haul requires an open mind - Forever, Never, Always ...the danger of absolutes - Threats to the F wo...

When you’re born with a call to serve, an activist activated by the personal obligation of “WE the people,” what happens when the exhilaration of resistance takes its toll? The exhaustion of living the fight for what’s right. Who helps the helpers? Let's Dig into That is thrilled to welcome an arts-loving, wine-sipping vigilante of justice! Serving as an attorney, law professor, and dedicated phil...

Join Jordan’s spiral as she explores her relationship with control, her compulsory need to provide (unwanted) help and (unsolicited) advice. The impulse to control seems rooted in Jordan’s self-proclaimed codependent tendencies, providing her with an illusion of safety and complicating the way she shows love. In a casual chat gone critical self-reflection mission, Jordan and J.T. discuss: - The in...

Thanks to YOU, the Love Ninja Listeners , it was brought to Jordan and J.T.'s attention that in all their talk of sex and intimacy, they did not use the word romance - not even once. In our busy culture of swiping and with the surge of the single and powerful , is romance on anyone's mind? Join the conversation as Jordan and J.T. explore: - What is romance? Is it a need, a want, a dated pursuit? -...

A good night’s rest – a dream we all chase. The importance of sleep is in no realm revolutionary. From brain health and metabolism to regulating hormones, mood, and body temperature, the work we do in bed matters. While J.T. cherishes the intimacy of sharing one mattress, the onset of illness has Jordan camping out in the guest room. By night six, J.T. fears she’s getting too comfortable. Jordan a...

Does putting sex on the schedule reduce satisfaction? Jordan argues that intentionality and anticipation are reason enough to jump on the dirty date night wagon. J.T. shares his experience with a calendar that unfortunately led to...crickets. While the word schedule might not have the best connotation, the planning and prioritizing of intimacy might be transformative for a relationship. What are t...

CASSIE IS BACK, and it is time to talk about the WINS! Let's dig into the good good. If you missed Part 1, do yourself a favor; this heroic journey is not to be missed. Following up on Cassie's devastating exit from a high-control church community and experience in therapy while earning a degree in Design, in this episode, discover: - the self-love rituals and practices that helped Cassie to recon...

Cassie (FREAKING) Fortman is here! Buckle up, beautiful friends. Season 2 opens with a 2-Part conversation that takes CONNECTION to the next level. J.T. and Jordan are joined by Cassie, the Guiding Connector , a dynamic designer and Founder of the Grand Mesa Business Guild , to discuss her heroic rounds of reinvention. Cassie bravely shares her unthinkable journey from indoctrination to freedom an...

SEASON 1 FINALE! Jordan and J.T. will return on January 15, 2025 with MORE saucy secrets, even BETTER production, and a lineup of AWESOME guests. At the close of 2024, we can recount our missteps and resolve to do better. OR we can reflect on the challenges we overcame, the moments of pride, and set our intention for opportunities in the new year. A new calendar is permission to start fresh. Wheth...

At Let's Dig into That , the goal is to remain honest and curious - to promote intentional connection through meaningful conversation. Jordan and J.T. honor Season 1 by reflecting on their mission. On track to inspire difficult conversations, Jordan and J.T. pledge to dig even deeper, focusing on intentional vulnerability and mindful connection. In this episode's quest for accountability, discover...

PARENTAL WARNING: Kris Kringle is outed on this episode. WE BELIEVE, but you don't have to! While J.T. and Jordan pride themselves on variety and spontaneity, there is something about this time of year, the customs and beliefs carried down by generations – ‘ tis the season for traditions . From Jordan’s New Year’s Eve fire ceremony to J.T.’s committed relationship with Santa, join the conversation...

How does memory factor into being present in the moment? To what degree can we trust our self-serving remembrances? How does memory factor into forward-thinking? While Jordan has a detailed recall of flavors and aromas, J.T. carries vivid snapshots of extreme highs and traumatic lows. The mind, the senses, the impact of photo albums, and stories told again and again, what should we be thinking whe...

Compromise is not self-sacrifice, nor is it a healthy cover for manipulation. Unhappy compromise is likely to lead to heavy resentment. Jordan prepares her defense when faced with a negotiation, wary of giving too much away. J.T. offers insight from the other side, highlighting compromise as an opportunity to connect and reap Win-Win benefits. Curious about the prospect of reframing compromise? In...

Jordan and J.T. met in the wine business. Fourteen years later, J.T. went to rehab, and Jordan cleared out her cellar. Sharing their individual motives, methods, and innovative approaches to healing, Jordan and J.T. explore the cycle of stigmas surrounding sobriety. Amidst holiday reverie, how do you avoid the celebratory cocktail? Who could even think of inviting Carol since we’ll be serving Sang...

“Through discipline comes freedom.” – Aristotle, Greek philosopher Self-control and consistent routine – all aboard the fun bus! Jordan and J.T. find themselves in a momentary state of mediocre self-discipline. How is it possible when he spent more than a decade as a calorie-counting vegetarian athlete? Jordan, a non-drinking entrepreneur with a first-degree black belt, struggles with her dormant...

Fantasies, daydreams, visions – the imagination is a powerful tool. Is sexual fantasy a form of intimacy? A way to sustain desire and feel more connected? Jordan and J.T. answer listener questions as they dig into the wonder of fantasy . Whether you want to keep your steamy scenes to yourself or incorporate your creativity into your real-world relationship, you are not alone. Tune in for insights...

“Negative reinforcement stops behavior; positive reinforcement changes behavior.” – Rick Lavoie, M.A., M.Ed., author of The Motivation Breakthrough Jordan and J.T. are thrilled to welcome Dr. Patty Templeton Smith as the first guest on Let’s Dig into That! Dr. Smith honors the pod with her wit and wisdom, inspiring an unmissable conversation on education…and aerospace...and passion. Join Jordan an...

“Listening is suspending disbelief.” Rick Rubin, The Creative Act: A Way of Being While hearing is automatic, listening is intentional . What are we missing when the desire to be understood is lost in another’s need to respond? Jordan’s self-awareness about her status as a multitasking interrupter – the personal anecdote interjector – has led to a more proactive approach to listening . J.T. explor...

THANK YOU, Listeners! In an attempt at rapid-fire Q&A, Jordan and J.T. tackle the gamut, from their most embarrassing moments to advice on talking to your teenager about sex. Unwilling to shy away and anxious to dig in, your questions inspired quite the conversation. A special mini-shout out to @handsomepod (34:18) for Fortune's shared love of the sitcom Designing Women . (Mae, it has been con...