Hell To Pay

Hell to Pay

Aamer, Elle and Sipho explore spiritually motivated crime and conflict.

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15 de sep. de 2025

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26. Ponzi in paradise: the divine right of kings 15.09.2025

Deep in the jungles of Bougainville, a man crowned himself king, founded a bank with no money, and promised salvation through spreadsheets. Meet Noah Musingku: prophet, monarch, financial engineer and architect of the most absurd sovereign state you’ve never heard of.  Is it a nation, a church or just the world’s most committed pyramid scheme? This week, we’re joined by writer and podcaster extrao...

25. The hostage honeymoon — how to out-Taliban the Taliban 08.09.2025

When Joshua Boyle and Caitlan Coleman set out on a backpacking trip through Afghanistan, they told friends it was a spiritual journey. What followed was one of the strangest hostage sagas of the 21st century — a tale of love, captivity, delusion and coercion — which has offered up more questions than answers. Support us by signing up for our Substack at https://helltopaypodcast.substack.com/ Sugge...

24. Indiana Jonesing: Raiders of the Lost Artifacts 31.08.2025

In this episode, we dig into the bizarre saga of American evangelicals, stolen artifacts from Iraq, and a DIY biblical empire-building project gone very, very wrong.  Then, some riffing on current events and a few past episodes.  Support us by signing up for our Substack at https://helltopaypodcast.substack.com/ Suggestions? Questions? Comments? You can find us at helltopaypodcast@gmail.com Theme...

23. The almighty dollar: how church became a $1.42T business 25.08.2025

We’re joined by Nathan Apffel, filmmaker of the upcoming Amazon docuseries The Religion Business . In exposing the dark underbelly of America’s wealthiest preachers, he’s faced arrest, a shattered elbow, and more than a few powerful enemies — yet each setback only fuelled his determination to follow the money in this trillion-dollar grift. You can watch the film at: https://www.thereligionbusiness...

22. Spells and Soccer: The Secret Magic of African Football 19.08.2025

In this episode of Hell to Pay , Sipho and Elle explore the fascinating world where football and spirituality collide. From Paul Pogba’s alleged consultation with a marabout, to Egypt’s sacrificial rituals before the Africa Cup of Nations, to stories of witchdoctors on the sidelines, we trace how magic continues to shape the beautiful game across Africa. Along the way, we unpack the deep roots of...

21. Gospel of the Gun: the story of church-run organized crime 10.08.2025

In the north of Rio de Janeiro, a drug lord and evangelical pastor has dominion over a series of favelas known as the ‘Israel Complex’. The streets are clean and building walls are painted with verses from Psalms… while religious minorities are persecuted and rival gang members are sent back to their homes in gift wrapped boxes. From Brazil to Texas to Romania and South Africa, the phenomenon of r...

20. Fowl play: How Chick-fil-A's anti-LGBT owners are flocking to Hollywood 21.07.2025

We’re joined by our friend Conner from the Propagandos podcast to talk about how the famously hardcore evangelical, anti-LGBT Chick-Fil-A empire has invested in an original content app and Trilith Studios, the second largest production lot in all of North America — home base for nearly every Marvel movie made since 2017.  The Cathy family, owners of the fast food chain, the aren’t the kind of peop...

19. White Widow, black ops 13.07.2025

On July 7, 2005, at 8:49 AM, three bombs detonated in three separate trains in the London Underground. How did Samantha Lewthwaite, the British wife of one of the suspects known as the White Widow, go on to become one of the world’s most wanted individuals for her roles in multiple terrorist attacks across several continents? Support us by signing up for our Substack at https://helltopaypodcast.su...

18. The prosperity gospel, or how jet fuel can’t melt golden calves 07.07.2025

From 19th-century mentalists to multi-millionaires, we trace how a fringe theology promising health and wealth became a global juggernaut among evangelical Christians. Support us by signing up for our Substack at https://helltopaypodcast.substack.com/ Suggestions? Questions? Comments? You can find us at helltopaypodcast@gmail.com Theme music: War Machine (The Purpose of a System Is What It Does) b...

17. Public enemies: the free masked men of Saudi Arabia 29.06.2025

Aamer takes us inside the Saudi social media phenomenon of 'free masked men' — anonymous videos complaining about declining living standards and calling for the head of Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman. But like everything in the Kingdom, it may not be all that seems... Check out the videos here: https://www.middleeasteye.net/trending/masked-saudi-youths-spark-online-movement-calling-end-c...

16. Head injuries and hellfire: a brief history of Christian Zionism 22.06.2025

Recorded prior to the United States bombing Iran, in this episode Elle and Aamer discuss the history behind why American Christians have become so obsessed with defending the state of Israel — no matter the cost. Support us by signing up for our Substack at https://helltopaypodcast.substack.com/ Suggestions? Questions? Comments? You can find us at helltopaypodcast@gmail.com Theme music: War Machin...

15. Opus Dei & Opus Night: the life and crimes of the bizarre Catholic sect 15.06.2025

Aamer and Elle are joined by journalist Gareth Gore, author of Opus, an expose on Opus Dei — a secretive, ultra-conservative Catholic sect — and its long history of cosying up to dictators, human trafficking, and siphoning billions of dollars from one of the world’s largest banks. Buy Gareth’s book here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Opus/Gareth-Gore/9781668016145 Support us by signing up...

14. Reactionary nihilism: Katherine Stewart on the modern religious right 08.06.2025

Reactionary nihilism, ideological world building, and kitty litters in classrooms: in this episode, journalist and author Katherine Stewart takes us inside the power center of American conservatives. Katherine's substack: https://substack.com/@katherinestewartbooks Katherine's latest book: https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/money-lies-and-god-9781635578546/ Support us by signing up for our Subs...

13. The siege of Glory Mountain: the preacher, the president, and the FBI 01.06.2025

Why did Apollo Quiboloy, a charismatic preacher who claimed he could stop earthquakes by yelling at them, and with close ties to the former president and his daughter, the current vice president — stage a dramatic and violent siege at his compound?  And why did the Filipino government finally decide to arrest him after almost four decades of crimes? Support us by signing up for our Substack at htt...

12. Shepherd Bushiri – the fugitive pastor 25.05.2025

Episode Description:  In this episode of Hell to Pay, Sipho Hlongwane and Elle Hardy are joined by journalist and author Pontsho Pilane to unravel the rise — and flight — of Shepherd Bushiri, the self-proclaimed prophet turned fugitive. From prosperity preaching and financial fraud to allegations of sexual abuse, we explore how faith, wealth, and impunity collide in the megachurch era. Plus: how B...

11. The Port Said massacre and the death of the Egyptian Spring 20.05.2025

Suppose you are a fan of Cairo’s Al-Ahly football club. Your team, the most successful club in the world in terms of trophies won, but currently sits second in the league table, one point behind surprise contenders Haras El Hodood (“Border Guards”) Football Club. Next up is an away trip to Port Said to face Masry Football Club. Unlike other away matches, however, 72 Ahly fans will not make the ret...

10. Pistols, a Bible and chocolate cake: the bizarre story behind Iran-Contra 11.05.2025

In May 1986, two of President Ronald Reagan’s National Security Council advisors, Oliver North and Robert “Bud” McFarlane touched down in Tehran on a secret diplomatic mission.  The event blew open what became known as the Iran-Contra affair, one of the greatest scandals in modern American history.  Support us by signing up for our Substack at https://helltopaypodcast.substack.com/ Theme music: Wa...

9. The real story behind the anti-abortion movement 04.05.2025

After Roe v Wade legalized abortion in the United States in 1973, evangelicals have made it one of the most important conservative issues. At first, however, evangelicals supported the decision for a woman's right to chose — until a machiavellian conservative Catholic activist engineered the shift by making it about another issue entirely. Support us by signing up for our Substack at https://h...

8. The fall of Apartheid and South Africa's satanic panic 27.04.2025

Teenagers, rock music, pentagrams... and a country on the brink of collapse. In this episode, we dig into one of the strangest moral panics in South African history — when fears of Satanism swept through churches, schools, and headlines during the final days of apartheid. But this wasn’t just about devil worship. It was about white fear, gender violence, and a society terrified of change. From Ame...

7. Alice in Ultraland Pt 2: the mysterious death of a CIA scientist 21.04.2025

United States Army Biological Warfare Laboratories chemist Frank Olson was found dead in suspicious circumstances after being covertly dosed with LSD.  Just how deep does knowledge of his death go? Will his family able to find justice? And why the hell did the CIA send him to see a magician?  Support us by signing up for our Substack at https://helltopaypodcast.substack.com/ Theme music: War Machi...

6. Flags, fascism and football: how Australia let Croatian Nazis run riot 14.04.2025

After WWII, Australia took in a lot of refugees from Europe. Unfortunately, some of them had ties to Croatia’s Ustaše — the fascist government that even the Nazis thought went too far. They got the band back together in two remarkably conspicuous places: football clubs, and the conservative Liberal Party.  Come for the football banter, stay for lesson in Australian slurs. Support us by signing up...

5. Alice in Ultraland: the mysterious death of a CIA scientist 07.04.2025

Frank Olson was a chemist working for the United States Army Biological Warfare Laboratories when he was covertly dosed with LSD. Shortly afterwards, he was found dead in highly suspicious circumstances. Support us by signing up for our Substack at https://helltopaypodcast.substack.com/ Theme music: War Machine (The Purpose of a System Is What It Does) by Sister Ray Davies. Check them out: https:/...

4. The Brazilian preachers, their 55 kids, and how not to plan the perfect murder 31.03.2025

In June 2019, Brazilian preacher Anderson do Carmo was murdered in cold blood in a flashy suburb of Rio de Janeiro. Along with his wife Flordelis, the couple had become famous for adopting over 50 street children after emerging from poverty to start a series of successful churches with a heavy emphasis on the prosperity gospel. But was it really a robbery gone wrong — or were there more sinister f...

3. Smiling Buddha, hidden nukes 24.03.2025

On June 18 2023, a Sikh plumbing business owner called Hardeep Singh Nijjar was executed in a carpark in British Columbia.  The Canadian government accused the Indian version of the CIA of doing the hit — and that’s only the beginning of a fallout that continues to reverberate around the world.  Support us by signing up for our Substack at https://helltopaypodcast.substack.com/ Theme music: War Ma...

2. The Afrikaner Broederbond: the secret society that shaped Elon Musk 17.03.2025

Sipho talks Elon Musk, Donald Trump and how apartheid South Africa found its way into the United States in 2025. Musk grew up in a country where every government leader was a member of the Afrikaner Broederbond, an exclusively male, Afrikaner Calvinist secret society that dominated political, cultural and social life. Sign up for our Substack at https://helltopaypodcast.substack.com/ Theme music:...

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