Joe Forward
Bottom Up
What issues matter most to young lawyers? Where can new lawyers go to find career advice, professional insights, practice tips, and more? Bottom Up is a podcast dedicated to examining today's legal challenges. Produced by the State Bar of Wisconsin and hosted by Emil Ovbiagele, a young lawyer and founder of a small law firm based in Milwaukee, each episode features frank discussions and relatable stories that highlight the interests and opportunities for attorneys working to establish their practice their way.
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Joe Forward
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6 de mar. de 2026
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Episodios
Episode 30: Legal Blogging with LexBlog CEO Kevin O'Keefe 06.03.2026 51:44
Explore the evolution and impact of legal blogging with Kevin O'Keefe, CEO of LexBlog Inc., as he shares insights on how lawyers can leverage blogs for reputation, niche authority, and adapting to AI advancements. The LexBlog Library "indexes and archives legal commentary published across the web, providing the structure and metadata required to power the AI-driven web." O'Keefe, who started his l...
Episode 29: Private Bar Assigned Counsel Program, State Public Defender with Kathleen Pakes and Melissa Lamb 01.12.2025 34:43
Through the Assigned Counsel Program, the Wisconsin State Public Defender (SPD) appoints private bar attorneys to handle conflict cases, providing attorneys with courtroom experience in criminal cases representing clients charged with misdemeanors and felonies across the state. "You can absolutely do it," said attorney Kathleen Pakes, director of the Assigned Counsel Program. Pakes is talking abou...
Episode 28: Product Liability Law and Legal Writing with Trial Attorney Jesse Blocher 07.10.2025 47:48
Jesse Blocher is the author of a recently published book, "Wisconsin Tort Law: Products Liability," published by State Bar of Wisconsin PINNACLE®. He's also an award-winning author for Wisconsin Lawyer magazine. In this episode of the Bottom Up Podcast, produced by the State Bar, the conversation explores Jesse's journey into law, the challenges faced by young lawyers, the decline of jury trials,...
Episode 27: From Steelworker to Civil Rights Lawyer - Veteran Litigator Mark L. Thomsen's Unique Journey 02.09.2025 1:10:43
Mark L. Thomsen's path to law is unlike any other story. In this episode of the Bottom Up podcast, host Emil Obviagele dives deep with Mark, a veteran Milwaukee-based litigator and partner at Gingras Thomsen & Wachs LLP. The episode explores Mark's unique upbringing in Nigeria, his return to America, and the cultural shocks he experienced. They discuss his journey into law, activism, and the impor...
Episode 26: Building a Family Law Practice - Insights from Max T. Stephenson 30.06.2025 47:47
Are you a family law attorney or want to learn more about family law as a practice area? In this episode of the Bottom Up Podcast, produced by the State Bar of Wisconsin, attorney Max T. Stephenson describes his experiences as a family law attorney with Gimbel Reilly Guerin & Brown LLP for more than a decade. Starting as a new lawyer with no family law experience, Stephenson discusses his 12-year...
Episode 25: Practice Insights and Tips with Judges Ellen Brostrom and Krista LaFave 21.03.2025 52:26
In this episode of the Bottom Up Podcast, produced by the State Bar of Wisconsin, host Kristen Hardy talks with former Milwaukee Circuit Court Judge Ellen Brostrom, now a mediator at Resolute Systems LLC, and Wauwatosa Municipal Court Judge Krista LaFave, also a personal injury attorney at Warshafsky Law. Both explore their unique career paths, motivations for public service, and the differences b...
Episode 24: Listening to Lawyers and Practice Pulse Join the Podcast Mix in 2025 30.12.2024 27:02
Exciting News! Starting in 2025, two new podcasts will join Bottom Up in a rotation of podcasts produced by the State Bar of Wisconsin. Bottom Up , co-hosted by Emil Ovbiagele and Kristen Hardy, will continue to explore topics of interest to lawyers in the early stages of their careers. They'll be back in March 2025. Two new podcasts – Listening to Lawyers and Practice Pulse – will expand the Stat...
Episode 23: A Path to Sports Law with Milwaukee Bucks Chief Legal Officer Mike Sneathern 26.11.2024 32:09
In this episode of the Bottom Up Podcast, produced by the State Bar of Wisconsin, co-hosts Emil Ovbiagele and Sam Huddleston Baker talk with Mike Sneathern, chief legal officer for the Milwaukee Bucks. Mike has worked 20-plus years for the 2021 NBA champs. The conversation explores Mike's journey from his native California to Wisconsin, his experiences in the Marquette University Sports Law Progra...
Episode 22: Data Privacy and Artificial Intelligence (AI) with Hiriam Bradley 30.09.2024 50:21
Will AI replace lawyers? That's one of the questions explored in the latest episode of Bottom Up, produced by the State Bar of Wisconsin. Co-hosts Emil Ovbiagele and Kristen Hardy welcome Hiriam Bradley, an attorney specializing in privacy and technology law. The conversation explores Hiriam's career path, the evolution of privacy law, and the intersection of artificial intelligence and privacy....
Episode 21: Finding Your Niche with YLD President Anthony Procaccio 31.07.2024 35:11
When Anthony Procaccio graduated from law school in 2013, he was one of 46,776 U.S. law students to do so (the most of any year on record, and 36% more than 2023). The economy was beginning to recover from the 2007-08 financial crisis, but job seekers were still struggling. Procaccio, now the president of the State Bar of Wisconsin's Young Lawyers Division, was among many law school graduates who...
Episode 20: Making the Most of Summer Law Clerkships, Tips for First Year Associates 29.06.2024 58:55
In this episode of the Bottom Up podcast, produced by the State Bar of Wiscondsin, co-hosts Emil Ovbiagele and Kristen Hardy discuss their experiences as young lawyers and the importance of law clerkships. They are joined by first-year associate Kate Goodhart and summer law clerk Dan Underwood, who share their perspectives. The conversation covers what employers look for in a good clerk, the imp...
Episode 19: Stress, Sleep Deprivation, and Lawyer Wellness with Amber Ault 31.05.2024 47:06
Episode 19 of the Bottom Up Podcast, produced by the State Bar of Wisconsin, features a discussion on lawyer wellness, stress, and sleep deprivation, focusing on the unique stressors legal professionals face. Amber Ault -- who manages the State Bar's Wisconsin Lawyers Assistance Program (WisLAP) and has extensive experience in the fields of therapy, sociology, and social work -- shares insights an...
Episode 18: The Parade of Horribles in Legal Malpractice Claims with WILMIC CEO Tom Watson 29.04.2024 1:34:34
Attorney Tom Watson, the featured guest in the latest episode of the Bottom Up Podcast produced by the State Bar of Wisconsin, knows what it means to reinvent yourself. Tom started his career in broadcast radio. He interviewed big names like Bill Clinton, Jesse Jackson, entertainer Red Skelton, and others. At age 37, Tom enrolled in law school. He's now the CEO and president of Wisconsin Lawyers...
Episode 17: Overcoming Imposter Syndrome with Samantha Huddleston Baker 26.03.2024 1:08:42
Ever heard of imposter syndrome? In this episode of the Bottom Up podcast, produced by the State Bar of Wisconsin, co-host Emil Ovbiagele and guest host Joe Forward interview Samantha Huddleston Baker, a partner at OVB Law and Consulting S.C. in Milwaukee. They discuss impostor syndrome and carving out paths in the early years of a legal career. Samantha shares her background and journey to law s...
Episode 16: Helping Victims of Human Trafficking, a Hidden Crime, with Erika Petty 31.01.2024 50:56
Simply defined, human trafficking is the exploitation of human beings for someone else's gain, according to Erika Petty, executive director at Milwaukee-based Lotus Legal Clinic, a nonprofit that provides free legal services exclusively to victims of human trafficking. As you'll discover in Episode 16 of the Bottom Up podcast, produced by the State Bar of Wisconsin, while human trafficking can be...
Episode 15: Hustle, Humility and 63 years in Law Practice with Litigator Frank Gimbel 29.12.2023 58:39
In 1963, Frank Gimbel was just three years out of law school when he became an assistant U.S. attorney, serving five years before switching to defense counsel. Gimbel's career as a trial lawyer, spanning six decades, has been chronicled extensively, with many awards to his name. But the early days were no walk in the park. Gimbel worked as a tax return preparer, a clothes salesman, and held other...
Episode 14 (Part 2): Solo & Small Firms - Generational Differences and Technology and Practice Management 30.11.2023 49:39
As younger lawyers enter the profession, how do they collaborate and communicate effectively with older generations, who may collaborate differently? What are the current trends, challenges, and opportunities for solo and small firms in the practice management and technology space? These are some of the questions that co-host Emil Ovbiagele and Joe Forward (guest host) explore with guests Erin Og...
Episode 14 (Part 1): Solo & Small Firm Practice in Wisconsin 30.10.2023 55:05
In this episode, recorded at the 2023 Wisconsin Solo & Small Firm Conference (WSSFC), co-host Emil Ovbiagele and guest host Joe Forward speak with Jessica Kramer, a small firm owner based in Madison, and Aiden Tharp, a solo practitioner in Hudson. Kramer was a co-chair of the conference's substantive law track, and Tharp was a co-chair of the work-life balance/ethics track. The conference theme?...
Episode 13: Rural Law Practice with Karina O'Brien 30.09.2023 1:28:19
In Episode 13 of the Bottom Up Podcast, produced by the State Bar of Wisconsin , co-hosts Emil Ovbiagele and Kristen Hardy talk with Karina O'Brien, an attorney at Kostner, Koslo & Brovold LLC in Arcadia, Wisconsin. The topic? Rural practice in Wisconsin. The challenges. The opportunities. The shortage of attorneys in rural Wisconsin. A 2014 U.W. Law School graduate, Karina grew up in Arcadia,...
Episode 12: Navigating New Opportunities with Confidence: Christa Wittenberg 25.08.2023 36:05
Milwaukee-based attorney Christa Wittenberg, a 2012 graduate of the University of Michigan Law School, never thought she would ever work for a law firm. But plans change. Now after 9 years with O'Neil, Cannon, Hollman, Dejong & Laing S.C., Wittenberg was recently elected to serve on the firm's 3-person Board of Directors. In the firm's 50-year history, she is the first woman to serve in that role....
Episode 11: Leading the Legal Profession with Margaret Hickey 31.07.2023 46:02
Fresh off a one-year term as president of the State Bar of Wisconsin, family and elder law attorney Margaret Hickey, of Milwaukee, discusses the importance of leadership, including service to a State Bar membership of more than 25,000 attorneys. Co-hosts Emil Ovbiagele and Kristen Hardy engage Hickey - the fourth consecutive woman to serve as president - in discussions about the role of State Bar...
Episode 10: Building Relationships and Community with Makda Fessahaye 27.06.2023 1:20:27
When Makda Fessahaye was age 28, and only five years out of law school, Wisconsin Gov. Tony Evers appointed her as the top administrator of the Division of Adult Institutions at the Wisconsin Department of Corrections. That was in 2019. "You go for it because when else do you get a gubernatorial appointment," Fessahaye said. She went on to become the chief human resources officer for the city of M...
Episode 9: Nate Cade on Extreme Ownership, from Big Law to Solo Practice 24.05.2023 52:36
In Episode 9 of the Bottom Up Podcast, produced by the State Bar of Wisconsin, co-hosts Kristen Hardy and Emil Ovbiagele speak with Milwaukee-based attorney Nate Cade, who wakes up at exactly 4:06 a.m. every morning to start his routine. A heavy-hitting litigator who often works on high-profile cases, Cade spent the first 17 years of his career at a large law firm, honing his craft as a trial lawy...
Episode 8: Advocating for the Criminal Justice System 20.04.2023 54:13
Are you a public defender or prosecutor? A judge? A Wisconsin resident? Thinking about criminal law as a career? The State Bar of Wisconsin's Advocacy Team is advocating for you. In Episode 8 of Bottom Up, a WisLawNOW podcast produced by the State Bar of Wisconsin, guest host Joe Forward speaks with three members of the State Bar's Advocacy Team – Cale Battles, Lynne Davis, and Devin Martin – abou...
Episode 7: The Road Less Traveled with In-House Counsel, Larry Whitley 24.03.2023 43:31
Milwaukee attorney Larry Whitley went straight from law school to an in-house counsel position, working on billion dollar deals in real estate right out the gate. In the latest episode of the Bottom Up Podcast, produced by the State Bar of Wisconsin, co-hosts Kristen Hardy and Emil Ovbiagele chat with Whitley about his journey. "There's no right path, just your path," Whitley says. The Rufus King...
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