Wrong Reasons with Liv and Grace

Once again we are wishing this episode was called "Men Tell None" but you can't always get what you want, can you? The terrible men continued to be terrible, and the non terrible men barely spoke at all - the worst kind of TV. Very sorry to Michelle, Kaitlin and Tayshia for having to sit in the same room with some of this absolute a-holes. They deserve better. Here's hoping we never see some of th...

Rodney was ROBBED. Not of Michelle's heart, but of the position of Bachelor and worst of all of his brand!!!! ABC we are absolutely furious with you on behalf of the angel that is Rodney - you do not deserve him! That being said this was an absolutely lovely hometowns episode, not a thing to complain about the whole way through basically. Grace would like to eat her words - she has no problem admi...

Wow Grace cannot WAIT to talk about Martin's behavior this week with her therapist. Other that that steaming pile of garbage masquerading as a human, we have got to give it up for Michelle's final 6! Not a bad guy in the bunch! This week we were primarily just charmed. And we are prepared to remain charmed as we head into hometowns which is somehow next week?? 

Would you believe that we were genuinely trying our best to make this a reasonable length? However we had multiple life kurfluffles that caused delays in our recording, and then approximately 9,000 major things happened in bachelor nation! We had to cover so much juicy content before we were even able to start digging into this juicy episode! The remaining men on this season are almost all stellar...

First and foremost Grace would like to apologize for how sicky she sounds. She really didn't think it was that bad until she was editing and heard her 1 million sniffles. We do still recommend listening despite her snotty voice, as this was yet another stellar episode of the bachelorette. We have a lot of thoughts about the men of this season, a lot of fashion critiques, a lot of slightly bitchy a...

Michelle continues to reign supreme as the greatest lead of all time who could ever exist. We are nearly as smitten with her as this cast of men, possibly even more so. If we're being perfectly honest we talked for at least 30 minutes before even getting to what happened on the show this episode, so we kind of sped through some things - but we hit all the important parts. At this point in the seas...

You guys Michelle is so good at her job!!! Both as a teacher and as the bachelorette!!! She handled every situation in this episode like a champ, and what a good episode it was! It had the perfect amount of drama in all the right ways, 2 group dates, a one-on-one, a cocktail party, and a rose ceremony. We really can't say enough good things (which is why the episode is long again lol whoops). We a...

It's finally time!!! Michelle's season is here and we could not be more excited! She truly just lights up the screen and we are so excited for her to find the love of her life. Unfortunately this is the group of men that she has to choose from, but there could be a winner or two in there, you never know. This week we were joined by Carly Lant to discuss how much we all respect teachers and whether...

This season they really went with a go big (get engaged) or go home vibe. This week we welcomed back Anders to discuss the finale episode and the season as a whole. There were three whole engagement and we are very happy for all the couples! We are not sure how many of them will actually make it to the alter, but that's okay! Usually the end of paradise is a little sad because it's just so much fu...

List of things that didn't need to be 3 hours long: Any movie ever This episode of Bachelor in Paradise.  As we wind down this season we have in our thoughts the poor souls who producers decided to torture by sending them down to the beach with date cards when people are supposed to be getting engaged in like 3 days. Honestly we can only see one, maaaaaybe two engagements coming out of this s...

This week felt a little drawn out. Mostly it was some catch up and resolution on some of our more solid, long time couples, with a bit of new couple drama thrown in. We are getting to the end of paradise here so it is frankly getting a little tiresome to watch people fight over individuals who you know they aren't going to end up dating outside of paradise. The fun part about this show is you usua...

If this whole episode was just Aaron and his "big facts" we would not have had any complaints. However it had Brendan being a dickwad and some toe sucking so we do in fact have complaints. We hoped this would be the last episode where we had to discuss dickwad Brendan, but alas that seems like it will not be the case. Keep tuning in to hear the rest of our thoughts on Paradise, because after this...

So the drama did in fact continue on Tuesday this week, but we only got resolution to 1 out of the 3 crazy storylines from Monday! The rest was just new drama! And the preview for next week looks even crazier than this week!! We're not sure how much more we can handle!!!! It was almost enough good TV to make Grace forget we have now gone a full week without a rose ceremony. almost... (she's still...

The theme of this episode was "lie better"!!! If you are going to insult us and Natasha with your shoddy plans that no one seems to be on the same page about, you could at least have the decency to come up with better lies about it?? But alas we have learned that sweet, innocent seeming Brendan is actually the fuckiest of boys who lacks even a shred of empathy. Oh how the mighty have fallen (to se...

What an episode! It is absolutely insane how no one knows how to talk to each other. For the second episode in a row every relationship is falling apart. However, Becca K and Kendall are both even hotter than we remembered so that's neat. We continue to be tired of Demi. 

Oh my god you guys, sorry for such a long episode, but this week was bananas! Also we were both super tired so it is possible that our train of thought kept wandering, but mostly there was so much to cover! People getting together, break-ups and almost no make-ups. Honestly Mari throwing a cake in a fire is one of the less dramatic things that happened if you ask us. And frankly we found that irri...

The theme of this episode was apparently sex appeal. Thomas and Riley both entered the beach looking sexy as hell. Thomas once again proved he has a 0/10 personality and is not long for paradise, but Riley once again out did himself with being a fucking amazing person. Could we handle all that sincerity and eye contact in a relationship? Absolutely not. But we are delighted for anyone who can. How...

Paradise is in full swing now babes, with two episodes a week! How are we to keep up? Don't worry, we'll spare you from having to watch 4 full hours of tv per week if you instead just listen to 2 full hours of our podcast per week instead! (We're only getting slightly better at keeping it concise). This week the ones who stood out were those who don't know how to play the game (looking at you Bren...

Paradise is back and better than ever babyyyyy!!! This week was just episode one and it already proved why BIP is everyone's favorite part of the franchise! We were excited to welcome back old favorites and to see old least favorites get ignored by a beach full of hot people. We can't wait to see what's next and watch a full 4 hours of bachelor content every week. Also I am not sure what producer...

MESSY MESS MESS are the eloquent words we would choose to describe this episode. But it's over y'all, we made it through another season, and we did it together which is the important part. This episode did not need to be three hours, but we had a lot to say on the things that happened in it so this is still a long recap, sorry that's our bad. Overall this was a very watchable season until the very...

40 minutes of fun, an hour and 20 minutes of a big time bummer. This could describe either this episode of the Bachelorette or this episode of our podcast. Sorry it's so long this week, we blame Gaslight Gatekeep Greg. 

WE WERE TRICKED. This was not hometowns, this was bamboozlement! We only got 20 minutes of Michael A. and then had to watch a whole hour and 40 minutes of Men Tell All (well it would have been an hour and 40 minutes except our wifi kept going out for long chunks of time so it was really more of a whoosie-whatsits of time). Highlights include the sweet angel baby that is Michael, Andrews extraordin...

Hometowns are next week??? Somehow hometowns always sneak up on us! But you know what they mean - lots of men telling a girl how much their moms will love her. They can't all love her, that's not how it works. One or more of them have to be lying. This episode was fine, but was honestly mostly a vessel to get us through to our FINAL FOUR BABYYY! Lucky for you guys our recaps are always 🔥 🔥 🔥 re...

This week was about honesty and sacrifice ... For us, not for the contestants. For the contestants this week was about complaining about not getting to jerk off and making fun of Hunter for being short and liking The Bachelor. Not a cute look you guys. Also we'd like to lodge a formal complaint with whoever creates the day of promos for this franchise. Telling us this week would have FIVE SURPRISE...

In an embarrassing turn of events we are very much enjoying ourselves this season. Blake is meh, Greg is meh, Connor is meh, but Michael is amazing and so are Andrew and Justin. Does LITERALLY ANYONE in charge here understand the definition of sex positivity, I feel like we have to ask this every week. That being said, stoked for the rest of the season, everyone seems like they sob at least once.&...