Wrong Reasons with Liv and Grace

This episode was a tricky one to recap, because the producers just kept cutting back and forth between the fruits of their labor (women crying in a hotel and men flirting it up on the beach). There were a few meaty things to talk about, namely what Logan and Shanae were up to and what's going to happen with Lace and Rodney, but ultimately it was a pretty predictable episode. It mostly felt like ep...

Ewwww! Tomato tomato tomato!!!  That's what we have to say to the producers after they kicked up the literal psychological torture of the contestants this week. We'd like to give a special shout out and thank you to Jill for providing us with our new favorite retort. It's exactly what you need when replying to idiots who are so dead set on being an idiot they are never going to listen to anyt...

So last week the first episode of the week was absolutely wild, and the second one was pretty boring in comparison. This week they really flipped that narrative. Monday's episode was decent, but without too much to really dig our teeth into, Tuesday's episode however.... We got to dive into Salley's treatment by production, Pizza Pete's terrible personality, Britney's ability to continue to swerve...

This week Liv and Grace break down several pressing questions. Is Ashley and Jared's presence annoying? Did Sierra come on to strong? Would you rather get in a fight with Justin or Logan? We know those have been keeping you up at night and so we have answers for you! The answers are primarily that being a human is complicated and there's no right way to exist in social situations. That being said...

Wow what a crazy time jump between recording our last episode and this one! Did we record them both in the same evening because that made sense for our schedules? Yes. However, you cannot blame corporate greed and trying to make as many episodes as possible to generate more ad sponsorships because we make zero dollars from this podcast. So there! We finally get our first rose ceremony of the seaso...

This one of the craziest episodes of television we can remember seeing in a long time. Obvious bullying by producers, terrible acting by Wells, and already so much crying!!! Us trying to keep our debrief brief (if you will) still ended up being an hour and a half! Don't worry, our week 2 recap is on the way and isn't nearly so long. 

It's not 🎶 almost paradise🎶, IT IS PARADISE!!!! Boy howdy have we missed the beach. This episode had everything you could ever ask for: Wells, margaritas, someone faking their birthday, and a boy who made his own life a mess pre-paradise by getting too cocky. It also had things we didn't ask for: a disgusting looking hot tub, Johnny rapping, and a man's full penis. And this is just the first epi...

Alright you guys, you got us. We did an absolutely shit job recapping this season, by which we mean we did not do it at all. In our defenses they don't get the Bachelorette in Europe, which is where Grace was for most of the season, and Liv is also very busy and hot and cool doing her own stuff. We promise to do better for Bachelor In Paradise. We mostly feel confident in that promise because BIP...

WE HAVE TEA. Hi everyone, guess what, this recording is LATE because Grace decided to be a jerk and go on a vacation and also Liv is now editing the episodes so please feel free to direct all complaints to her, but keep in mind that she currently has 335 unread text messages. This episode was a wild ride, from literally no one (including the producers) being prepared to run this season, to a man a...

Hey hey hey - it's time for our favorite part of the pre-season! Making snap judgements about the people we are about to watch on TV for the next 10 weeks based on nothing but approximately 3 facts about them and how we feel about their face. And of course we couldn't do it without the expert insight of Mason Lok. He brings to the table absolutely no knowledge of the bachelor franchise (he didn't...

We're baaaaaack!!! Our sincere apologies for the long LONG hiatus, we knew we were going to have to take a break when Grace got jaw surgery, but no one could have predicted the shit show that followed. As the hardware has finally been mostly removed from her mouth, and she has been given the go ahead to speak without clenching her teeth together, we were finally able to get recording again. Howeve...

You're telling us we've been doing this podcast for two years??? Is this a joke?? We have now recapped 7 full seasons of this show (6 if you don't count Listen to Your Heart, which maybe we shouldn't...) and done plenty of fun stuff during the off seasons. The second year of Wrong Reasons brought us Bachelor Bookclub and The Question Game (feat. Mason Lok) - two of our absolute favorite types of e...

We are literally so proud of ourselves for keeping this episode under two hours. Who knows why we thought it would be a good idea to recap these two episodes in just one evening, but in our defense we did not think it would literally be the most dramatic finale in bachelor history. They tell us that every year, we had no reason to actually think it was true! This finale was full of twists and turn...

We thought about doing two episodes, but let's be real - the Women Tell All didn't need a whole hour long discussion. It was almost entirely yelling about arguments we've already seen play out with no new developments. It did however, bring us the joy of remembering Claire from night one who claimed she hated Clayton so just took full advantage of the open bar instead. She is the only one who has...

Has there ever been a more boring, less confrontational hometowns episode? Probably not. I mean I know we're always saying we hate unnecessary drama, but jesus they gotta give us SOMETHING. We have never seen the parents be so throughly unfussed with this whole bachelor situation, though to be fair it did mostly seem to be because they were coming at it from the position of "she's in charge of wha...

Guys, Clayton suuuucks!!!! Literally he was so annoying this episode and also so was almost everyone else except Sarah. Frankly we are #teamsarah and if you think differently we would love to hear your reasoning. This episode was redeeming for almost no one, and included a very inappropriate and uncomfortable therapy date that crossed yet another new boundary for the bachelor franchise (in a bad w...

This is now a Marry Me staring Jennifer Lopez and Owen Wilson podcast. Honestly this movie probably took up about 15% of our discussion, but trust us, you're gonna want to hear Anders' thoughts. Oh yeah - Anders is back! We were so happy he was able to join us for this episode to discuss the insanely blatant producer handling of both Clayton and the contestants. If there was ever a week when the p...

5 weeks in and we can't stop calling Clayton "Colton." We're never going to get it!! This season just keeps getting wilder and wilder, and shows no sign of slowing down any time soon! We had to kind of power through this episode because Liv had another commitment she needed to get to (she literally made it with one minute to spare), so this episode was a bit more rushed that we like ours to be. Ho...

Guys, we don't know what to tell you. We were feeling mean today. Lucky for you that also means that we had a lot of hilarious observations for you to hopefully enjoy and not judge us too harshly on. This season is getting messier by the second, and we are along for the ride whether we like it or not. Please enjoy this recap, remember to rate and review us, and finally, dear audience, please know...

It has felt like literal years since we've recorded an episode, but apparently it has only been two weeks. Clayton continues to bring all the flavor and intrigue of a 4 year old stale graham cracker, but at least we had shrimp-gate to keep us engaged this episode. There's really not much to say about Clayton's relationship with any of these women, so we will simply have to count on their relations...

If you thought Clayton was a snoozefest before... He somehow managed to lose any whisper of a personality he might have had between last week and this week. Luckily there are some interesting women on this season by which we mean Cassidy (terrible person, great TV), Elizabeth (seems like a good person, enduring emotional trauma with incredible grace on TV), and Ziwe (she's not a contestant, she wa...

This week we welcomed Grace's cousin Timothy to help us kick of Colton- we mean Clayton's season! Is Clayton boring? Yes. Is this group of women absolutely wild? Also yes. Are we going to be able to tell Clayton and Jesse apart? Definitely not. Night one is always tough because there's so many names to remember and very few story arcs, that being said multiple crazy things still went down and we c...

First of all, so sorry if the audio is a little weird in the beginning - having three people all on zoom trying to hear each other and sync their recordings can be a bit challenging sometimes.  Welcome back to the question game, with one of our absolutely favorite people to have on the pod: Mason! Please enjoy us haphazardly answering questions based on the bios of all the women lining up to...

We are feeling very bittersweet and satisfied by the ending of Michelle's season. We are so happy for her and Nayte, but so sad that she will no longer be gracing our TV screens every week. She has been a phenomenal bachelorette and deserves every happiness, and it seems like her and Nayte have found that!!! This was a great episode of television to finish off a season that has essentially been ut...

We welcomed back BFF of the pod, Anders, for this fantasy suites recap! Things are really heating up and emotions are running high (our emotions that is). Brandon seems to be going off the rails a little bit with how obsessed with Michelle he is, Nayte has apparently zero questions or things he wants to discuss despite the proposal happening next week, and Joe.... Sweet, sweet, Minnesota Joe... An...