Wrong Reasons with Liv and Grace

This was OUR hometown episode because it took place in Washington! Everyone kept talking about how cold it was and hiking - it was like every conversation we've ever had! This was a phenomenal episode of TV with not one, but two, incredible one-on-one dates, and just the right amount of drama. This season continues to be awesome, and if the previews for the coming weeks are to be believed, it&...

For the first time ever, Grace was more right about who someone looked like than Liv! This will never happen again so savor this historic moment. Who is this mysterious someone? We're not going to tell you so we guess you'll just have to listen to the episode... This episode contained a Barbie themed date, so you KNOW we were invested! And of course we had to cover our Warwick conspiracy t...

This season continues to be awesome. We actually loved the dodgeball game, and Charity seems to be having the absolute best time in the world being the Bachelorette, which is really fun to watch. But what on earth are we going to do with morally-his-heart-is-in-the-right-place-but-he's-an-absolute-buzzkill Adrian and culturally-insensitive-comically-large-earrings Brayden? Finally, before play...

It's the start of a whole new season, and we even spiffed up our cover art in celebration! (Just kidding, Liv is just a perfectionist and addicted to drawing so this kind of thing happens from time to time). We are so excited to start following Charity's journey as the bachelorette! It already seems like she's going to be a killer lead, and this season seems to be full of interesting c...

GIMH, OGM and MKKL are back to kick off Charity's season with one of our most fun episode styles - the question game!! (If you have questions about those initials you have no choice but to listen to at least the first 5 minutes of the episode) This time around we discussed which contestants are likely to think ketchup is spicy, who has possibly been to mar-a-lago (allegedly) (hypothetically) (...

We don't think that Jesse Palmer is ever allowed to describe things as "the most low energy and unexciting finale of all time," but if he was that would have been a good way to describe for this episode. Most of what we talked about was how we would have produced this episode differently and frankly better. Justice for Ariel and Gabi, and frankly also Kaity as well, because I don&#39...

We are over the moon to welcome back one of our absolute favorite guests, Anders, to discuss this weeks fantasy suite finasco (as Hannah Ann would put it). You are very much going to enjoy his witty and at times scathing takes on what went down this episode, and we probably also tossed in a couple of good insights too (no promises). Congrats to Zach for finding a new and original way to completely...

In terms of a hometowns week, this was in fact a very boring one. Full of (mostly) supportive feelings, and Zach having a good time. Not enough emotional turmoil for our tastes, and definitely not enough confessions of love. People! We are two weeks away from a proposal at this point! You have to say that you're falling in love!! (Looking at you Gabby....) Anyways, we hope you guys don't t...

Dear listeners, if anyone can tell us how the magician did the thing with the heart on the hand please let us know, we are very curious and convinced it may actually have been magic. Otherwise we mostly spent the episode talking about how we'd like to go to the Hungarian baths and Budapest does seem like a genuinely romantic place. It's hard to believe that hometowns week is already upon us, and i...

Our most sincere apologies for a stupid long episode this week. We're not even sure how or why it happened, but some of it can be attributed to Liv's ridiculously good mood, and also the fact that we did like 10 minutes of material on not being detail oriented. This week we fought about whether or not Brooklyn has a slut shame-y attitude towards Kat. Please weigh in and let us know your thoughts....

Huge disaster befalls the bachelor this week! Apparently they can't get away with traveling multiple different places in a giant group while unmasked and mingling with the public without at least one person testing positive for Covid!!! Who could have foreseen this?? Evidently not Zach because he is 10000% emotionally unequipped to handle this. Emotions run high for just about everyone this episod...

The cast of the Bachelor has traveled to the Bahamas this week, and we would also like to go to there. Or skiing. Or basically anywhere that isn't moving or doing a two show day on a Saturday. This week we discussed whether Kat's date to snorkel with sculptures was scary (Grace) or cool (Liv), and get to engage in our first real Wrong Reasons™️ discourse of the season. Zach continues to frankly do...

We hope you tuned into this podcast for a 20 minute breakdown of how similar or dissimilar Megan Fox and Angelina Jolie look, because if not you are out of luck. It does not help that Liv is uncommonly good at recognizing facial characteristics, while Grace is uncommonly bad at that. Please do not judge us for the fact that we genuinely called Zach genuine multiple times in this episode. we don't...

You know what team, we don't really know what to say here. We recorded this on Monday because of Grace's crazy schedule and we're publishing it on Thursday yet again because of Grace's crazy schedule. This week was not a winner for us personally #survivingnotthriving. Please enjoy this ep, at this point we can't even remember what we talked about. We're going to try harder next week lol.  

Ahhhh hello everyone!! Welcome to the start of what seems to be a promising season of the bachelor! Zach is what we call going back to basics. In our opinion, they have tried to be too cool in years past (though we hate to call Peter Weber "cool"), they should just stick to what works - a guy who loves family, football, and frozen pizza (and has a strong attachment to gender roles and the idea of...

Have we got a special treat for you fools (loyal listeners)! We are back and getting amped up for Zach's season the best way we know how - by playing the question game with guest Mason Lok! Together the three of us will go through the cast bios of the women for this upcoming season, and answer essential, need to know questions about them - such as, who do we think doesn't believe in the moon landi...

You guys holy shit. Grace just decided for kicks to check how many episodes we had before she published this and it turns out this is our ONE HUNDREDTH FREAKING EPISODE?? Imagine if she'd checked after like 3 more episode lol. It feels so fitting for this milestone to fall on a Bachelor in Paradise finale episode. There's so much to cover and we wish the episode had honestly been 2 hours longer (d...

Shoutout to Grace's dad for letting her use his phone to record this podcast, and we especially appreciate the restraint he showed in only coming silently into the room to indicate he wanted it back once. If he really wanted his phone back then he shouldn't have been such a loving and generous father during her childhood because now she thinks she can walk all over him (she did not give the phone...

We have possibly never had as many technical difficulties while recording an episode as we did during this one. Internet went out and disconnected our FaceTime call at least 900 times, so if some of our discussion seems disjointed that's why! It was especially frustrating that the internet decided to do this during our discussion of this episode specifically because this was an especially crazy on...

What is worse: being a human taco, human burrito, or human churro? If you're not sure what exactly that means, don't worry. We discuss it at great, great length in this episode of the podcast. It is one of very few issues where Liv and Grace are on very different sides of the argument. Other prime examples of issues where they are split are the attractiveness of 6th movie Ron Weasley, Mr. Tumnus,...

Honestly, it was nice to have a bit of a lull and only have one episode of BIP this week. Don't get us wrong, we love the content, but it can be a lot to keep up with! As is always the case, when we predict that we'll have a short episode cause there's not much to discuss, we end up with one of our longest episodes yet. Remember that there's not two of them so it's still worth tuning in!  We...

Welcome to our podcast about Grace's relationship with Liv's Grandma, our thoughts on prenups, and if we would spend $100,000 on a dog. Oh wait, did you come here to hear about Bachelor in Paradise? We're pretty sure we also talked about that... Just kidding, of course we talked about it! You're gonna hand us Hayden saying crazy stuff on a silver platter and not expect us to do a deep dive into th...

This episode was sort of two-fold. It started with probably the shortest and least dramatic cocktail party ever, an incredibly predictable rose ceremony, and then a date between two people that we know like each other. The unexpected bit came with Justin's dramatic reappearance, and trust us, we have THOUGHTS on that. Anything nice we ever said about Justin, please strike that from the record. Ple...

Content Warning: We spent soooo much of this episode kind of defending Shanae? Look we don't like it either. We just also don't like Logan or Kate. There were very few bright lights in this episode because Brandon and Serene are too cute for production to care about them, and screen time was instead given to infuriating situations. Also don't get your hopes up for a rose ceremony, we have to wait...

Lots of people were just in a silly goofy mood this week, while also somehow being some of the most depressed people we've ever seen on the show? We're loving the new development where the girls just boo Jesse Palmer every time he walks into a room. That is also how we feel we would react in the moment. We also finally had some real life Bachelor Nation stuff to discuss, and it feels like it's bee...