World of Wisdom
World of Wisdom
A curiosity driven podcast about wisdom, learning and the personal and systemic implications of the transition we are in. Hosted by Amit Paul and Nils von Heijne. For extended shownotes visit: https://worldofwisdom.substack.com/
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Episodes
306. Tom Nixon - the work of co-founding, more on working with source and following aliveness 16.10.2026 1:15:28
How do we realise a vision without losing each other along the way? And as the hardships of our world become harder to turn away from, how do we recognise what is ours to do? Tom Nixon ( Website , EP120 ) returns to the podcast to explore source, power and the relationship between what makes us come alive and how we serve life. We sit with two ideas that can seem contradictory: our deep equality a...
305. Tree Willard - Alignment is the only assignment, rebalancing and being home 06.10.2026 1:06:32
Tree Willard joined me for a conversation about alignment, reciprocity and our capacity to transform the experiences we are living. We spoke of her work with Rewoven , making media about people already embodying these possibilities. We explored what balance means beyond our inherited ideas of masculine and feminine, and how slowing down can loosen the stories of scarcity, inadequacy and abandonme...
304. Lily Starling Louis: creating sandboxes for redefining value, moving capital relationally and taking material steps 16.09.2026 1:13:09
In this conversation with Lily Louis Starling , we explore what it would mean to move capital relationally, in alignment with what we find most beautiful and worth protecting. Lily’s work with wealth holders, DAF sponsors and wealth advisors begins with values, but quickly opens into a conversation about the whole portfolio: every investment has a material impact, whether we attend to it or not....
303. Kristian Mjoen - on the transformative power of the local, the path dependency of the system and the role of arts 30.08.2026 1:28:46
Kristian Mjoen associate professor of sustainable development and community participation at NTNU ( LI ), CEO of Sustainbridge and Co-founder of the Sustainability Centre Norway Association . We spoke of why the local scale holds such transformative potential. We spoke of a very tangible way of relating to sovreignty and empowerment. We also touched on how starting in place allows one to unfold ma...
EP302: Roundtable: Samantha Sweetwater, Rudy de Waele and Alex de Carvalho - An exploration of the blueprint for regenerative gathering 20.08.2026 1:25:37
Rudy de Waele ( LI ) and Alex de Carvalho ( LI ), co-founders of Voices of Emergence — a relational learning ecology bringing together conversations, community, learning journeys and gatherings — together with Samantha Sweetwater ( LI , website ), co-created The Invitation earlier this year: an intimate gathering of around 50 people exploring what becomes possible when we create the conditions for...
301. Les Szabo - Purpose Pledge, Purpose Capital and business in right relationship 09.08.2026 1:07:10
Les Szabo from Dr. Bronner’s ( LinkedIn ) joined me on the podcast for a deep conversation about the Purpose Pledge and the work he is spearheading. We explore the misalignment between business and the living world, what it means to operate in right relationship, and how the Purpose Pledge turns values into visible action rather than another reporting exercise. With 90% of a company’s impact sitti...
300. Soloepisode + Interview with Amit Paul - On devotion to movement, inquiry and what's ours to do 18.07.2026 1:39:18
Amit takes the time to celebrate the 300’th episode by diving into his work and findings over the last year. Reflecting on what is important now, what is his to do. An invitation to fully lean into what you truly care about and create value, not extract from there. The invitation of inquiry and the possibilities that open up when we let go of the posture of right and wrong and truly begin to love...
299. Paul Svensson - on the hunt for taste, the love for variety and making food with the land. 12.07.2026 1:10:47
Paul Svensson ( LI ) came by the podcast and we spoke about how the hunt for flavour turned into a passion for regenerative farming and soil creation. We spoke of the transition from seeing difference as a problem to seeing it as an opportunity. We spoke of how good soil is the precondition for good food. How an obsession of data revealed how he (and we all) need to really fundamentally rethink ho...
298. Tim Logan, Manda Scott, Nathalie Nahai - Podcasters unite! 4 of us take a look at what we're learning across conversations 06.07.2026 59:59
This is a wonderful episode I get to lean in with Tim Logan ( LI ) of the Future of Learning Design Podcast , Nathalie Nahai ( LI ) of the In conversation with Nathali Nahai and Manda Scott ( LI ) of Accidental Gods . We have more than 1000 episodes between us. I find the observations towards the end being eerily similar although we're all focused on different domains. This is well worth a lis...
297. Cordell Jacks - Regenerative investing, essence potential and breaking patterns 25.05.2026 1:06:26
Cordell Jacks ( LI ) CEO of Regenerative Capital Group came on the podcast and shared the work he's been involved in developing on a regenerative thesis. This episode shows that there there is not necessarily any conflict between regeneration and growth. But it does require us to rethink profit, rethink leadership and rethink the positionally of the investor. The orientation towards potentiati...
296. Lucas Matarazzo and Ollie Bream McIntosh: the rhythm of systems, collective decision making and the proper use of tech for systems change 17.05.2026 1:16:41
Lucas Matarazzo ( LI ) and Ollie Bream McIntosh ( LI ) came to speak about systemic transformation. We spoke of collective, systemic and machine intelligence. How we can weave together these into a richer tapestry for decision making. We spoke of how change have a temporal and cultural/psychological depth component, how systems flow and how that flow may be (re)directed. How they have a rhythm: wh...
295. Emily Harris and Dr Martin Lorenz - Conversational design, the anti-brief and systemic change 10.05.2026 1:13:22
Dr Martin Lorenz ( LI ) and Emily Harris ( LI ) came by the podcast. We spoke about their project the Anti-Brief and their reimagining of the design profession: from a profession of knowing to one of discovery. Inviting learning and conversation to its very center. This is a conversation about deep codes, conversational design and an invitation towards a different posture. Martin and Emily are cur...
294: Tharald Nustad & Evita Chiang Zanuso: Katapult future fest and systemic investing 20.04.2026 1:09:14
Tharald Nustad ( LI ) and Evita Chiang Zanuso ( LI ) visited the podcast and we spoke in-depth about the Katapult ecosystem, where it is currently at and the Katapult Future Fest . This is a call to attend to this event that is one of the catalysing events in the impact space. This year in Amsterdam end of may. We spoke of what the metamorphosis is, what it means to focus and not spreading yoursel...
293. Ryan (Ra) James Kemp - Original ways of being, pace, sequence and being an interface 10.04.2026 1:08:58
Ryan James Kemp ( LI ) came on the podcast and we spoke of the Original Living Responsibilities ( LI ), living at the pace of the planet and the important of sequence. We spoke of why goals are present fobic, how circular time works, how finding a different pace may change everything. That grief is the metabolic movement of becoming reconnected. We also touch on (Re)biz the unschool for systems le...
292. Lex Empress - Harmony, Performance, and the transformative quality of presence. 03.04.2026 1:12:44
Lex Empress ( LinkTree )vocalist, systems thinker and the founder of Soulsong came by the podcast. We dove deep into what singing is, what it means to be in a commercial world as artist. Performance and presence, the tension between them and how they scaffold one another. We spoke of what it is to be in contact with what is and the transformative power of devotion to the present. We spoke of truth...
291. Marina Mussapi - Creativity, Systems change and investing as a bridge 24.03.2026 1:02:16
Marina Mussapi ( LI ) at the Moleskin Foundation came by the podcast and we spoke of creativity as a vehicle for transformation. How can we support and invest in the arts without corrupting their spirit? What does it look like to invest contextually in local contexts to empower creators? What does it look like to decanter the heroic role of the investor and focus on creating conditions for movemen...
290. Ebru Kaya & André Stürmer - Regenerative investing, barriers and experiences to regenerative investing from the front lines 16.03.2026 1:04:15
Ebru Kaya ( LI ) and André Stürmer ( LI ) founders of both RIA and Atreyu came by the podcast for a deepdive into regenerative investing. Not just investing in regenerative companies but what it means to invest regeneratively. We speak of profit, the position, role and stance of the investor, the experiences Ebru and André have made in their long experience as well as their learning ed...
289. Roundtable: Adam Purvis, Jenny Grettve - institutions, extetutions and the rigorous practice of care 03.03.2026 1:08:06
Adam Purvis ( LI ) of Dark Matter Labs and Jenny Grettve ( LI ) of EIT Culture and Creativity, artist and creative joined me for a roundtable conversation about institutions and their transformation. We spoke of power and what it takes to shift. Language - when the complexity serves us and when it gets in the way. We spoke of institutions, their development and the move away from care. We spoke of...
288. David Ekelund - business as a vehicle for mutual thriving, developmental organistaions and sustainability 24.02.2026 1:05:01
David Ekelund the co-CEO and founder of Icebug came on the podcast ( LI ) and we spoke about what it is to run a company that does not consider itself sustainable but that is acting for increasing thriving and contributing positively to the world. We speak of Icebugs journey to where they are today, how they work with people and supplychains. Their approach to value distribution as well as how the...
287. Camille Accolas - trust exchange, biodiveristy, and the human element 16.02.2026 1:05:32
Camille Accolas (Founder of TrustExchange , LinkedIn Camille Accolas (Founder of TrustExchange , LinkedIn ) came on the podcast and we spoke about trust and what becomes possible when we're allowed to show up as full pepole. We spoke of Camilles past in sustainability and biodiversity and how even there being able to bring people together and create containers was key to driving change....
286. Larissa Conte - Wattage, Power and Business 3.0 08.02.2026 1:39:32
Larissa Conte ( LinkedIn ) and I spoke about the work she's been doing on power. We spoke about wattage. The notion that power is an experience not a thought. That we are afraid of power and what we may do with it. We spoke of shadow power: over and the one we give away, as well as the power that serves the whole. Larissas work with heart centered leaders was the backbone of this conversation....
285. Samantha Sweetwater - Homecoming, true humans and enlifenment 25.01.2026 1:11:07
Author, facilitator and coach Samantha Sweetwater ( LinkedIn ) came back to the podcast for a deep dive into her most recent book True Human. We spoke of homecoming, the current predicament, the current moment. We also spoke of separation, domination and their antidotes. What does it take for humans to come back into relational process that serves the vitality, emergence and co-emergence of life....
284. Marie Ekeland - Reinventing the VC-model, Alignment and Investments that create reality 11.01.2026 1:12:19
Marie Ekeland ( LI ) founder of 2050 and venture capitalist came on and we spoke about how they are reinventing the VC model so it may contribute to a regenerative future. This is a very hands on conversation that dives into the weeds: the fund structure their alignment model, the world they are hoping to create through their investment, the incentives. It's absolutely excellent. We also speak of...
283. Dave Snowden - Complexity, Coherence and Agency 04.01.2026 1:05:09
This conversation with Dave Snowden ( LI ) and founder of the Cynefin Co came on the podcast and we spoke of complexity. Discerning it from systems thinking, why he's been so critical of the inner development goals, getting the critique on experts right. We spoke of change, direction, working with the substrate. Why workshops are suboptimal or even damaging, why practice is what makes perfect. We...
282. Mari Granström - green chemistry, creating supply chains and systemic transformation 28.12.2025 1:07:10
Mari Granström ( LI ) founder and CEO of Origin by Ocean . We spoke of the chemicals industry and why it's so integral to everything that we do, how it can and probably will become a part of the solution going forward. We spoke of what it takes to actually recreate supply chains that are healthier where social , environmental and financial benefit are co-consequences. We also spoke of why sing...
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