Shane Waters, Gemma Hoskins
Who Killed Sister Cathy?
Join Gemma Hoskins, the beloved advocate from Netflix's The Keepers , and veteran crime podcaster Shane Waters as they revisit the unsolved murder of Sister Cathy Cesnik, a young nun whose mysterious death in 1969 has haunted Baltimore for decades. Who Killed Sister Cathy? goes beyond the documentary, bringing you new interviews, fresh perspectives, and revelations that have never been heard before. Together, Gemma and Shane are relentless in their pursuit of the truth, unraveling secrets and untold stories that point to a conspiracy that shook a community to its core. This is not just a podca...
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Shane Waters, Gemma Hoskins
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May 20, 2026
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Episodes
95: The Mary Statue and Unanswered Questions 20.05.2026 1:22:03
Shane Waters and Gemma Hoskins sit down together for the first time in over a year for a wide-ranging conversation about the unsolved 1969 murder of Sister Catherine Ann Cesnik in Baltimore, Maryland. Known to millions through the Netflix documentary The Keepers, Gemma has spent more than a decade investigating what happened to Sister Cathy, the young School Sister of Notre Dame who taught English...
94: Lies, Truth, and The Keepers 03.02.2025 1:16:54
In this episode of Foul Play, Shane and Gemma are joined by Mike, an expert in detecting deception through body language, as they dive deep into the perplexing case of Sister Cathy. The trio scrutinizes the most promising suspects and unpacks intriguing visuals from The Keepers , shedding new light on evidence that has long baffled investigators. Combining detailed analysis with engaging discussi...
93: Sister Cathy, Continuing the Timeline 07.12.2024 1:07:15
In this episode of Foul Play , Shane and Gemma pick up where they left off, completing the intricate timeline of events surrounding the disappearance and murder of Sister Cathy Cesnik. They shed light on pivotal moments, uncover new connections, and discuss the lingering questions that continue to haunt this decades-old case. Listeners will also hear thoughtful responses to more submitted questio...
92: Sister Cathy, A Timeline of Events and Key Insights 24.11.2024 1:10:22
In this episode of Foul Play, Shane and Gemma discuss the significant developments and unanswered questions surrounding the disappearance and murder of Sister Cathy Cesnik. They outline a detailed timeline leading up to and following her disappearance, touching on key events and interactions with people close to her. The episode also delves into the potential involvement of certain individuals, th...
91: Slides of Hope: A Doctor's Quest for Justice 12.02.2024 1:44:25
In this episode, recorded as 2022 drew to a close, Shane and Gemma are joined in Maryland by Catherine Rentz, a seasoned journalist and producer, along with John Benam, the acclaimed Director of Photography known for his work on The Keepers. Catherine takes listeners deep into a compelling story that unravels against the backdrop of 1970s Maryland. At the center of this narrative is a doctor whose...
90: The Jesuit Seminarian 14.01.2024 1:07:01
Shane and Gemma dive into a dramatic and unexpected new twist in the unsolved murder of Sister Cathy. They are joined by Ronnie Norpel, whose parents were personal friends with Gerry Koob, a Jesuit priest who was close to Sister Cathy and has long been considered a significant person of interest in the case. Ronnie shares shocking allegations against Koob and reveals that he often brought Sister C...
89: AG Report - A Tale of Abuse and Cover-Up 13.12.2023 40:42
Shane undertakes a meticulous examination of the Attorney General's extensive report on child sexual abuse within the Archdiocese of Baltimore. With careful and deliberate attention, he reads and analyzes key sections of the landmark report, shedding light on the distressing findings and the systemic failures that allowed such abuses to persist unchecked for generations. The episode navigates...
88: Reflections on the Attorney General's Report on Clergy Abuse 06.12.2023 1:00:21
In this thought-provoking episode, hosts Gemma and Shane delve into the profound implications of the Maryland Attorney General's landmark report on clergy abuse. Joined by advocate and paralegal Mary Beth and survivor Kim, the episode offers an in-depth analysis of the report's most significant findings and their impact on the ongoing struggle of survivors seeking justice and acknowledgmen...
87: Bankruptcy and Betrayal - How Bankruptcy Shields Predators 20.10.2023 1:07:23
Who stands to gain? This episode examines the complex web of Archdiocesan bankruptcies and their troubling connection to Sister Cathy's unsolved murder. After funneling extensive financial resources into fighting against survivors in Maryland courts to preserve the statute of limitations, the Archdiocese of Baltimore has opened a new legal front -- filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection....
86: Uniting for Survivors - The Battle for Transparency 02.12.2022 49:18
Gemma and survivor Donna find themselves at the forefront of a critical moment in the fight against clergy abuse in the Archdiocese of Baltimore. This episode captures the charged atmosphere of a pivotal press conference where SNAP (Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests), their attorneys, Gemma, and Donna unite to advocate for the full public disclosure of a comprehensive report documenting...
85: Transparency and Accountability at the Archdiocese of Baltimore 30.11.2022 27:22
The Maryland Attorney General's investigation into the sexual abuse of children by clergy in the Archdiocese of Baltimore has concluded with a devastating 456-page report. The document details the sexual abuse of more than 600 victims at the hands of 158 Catholic priests within the Archdiocese. Attorney General Brian Frosh has turned the comprehensive report over to the courts and asked that i...
84: The Truth in the Machine - Understanding Polygraphs 28.10.2022 46:19
Shane and Gemma welcome a distinguished guest, William Ortiz, a retired FBI Special Agent and decorated Marine Corps veteran. With his extensive experience in federal law enforcement and as the founder of Ortsec, a professional polygraph service company, William brings invaluable insight into the science and practice of polygraph examinations. The episode explores the intricacies of how lie detect...
83: Teresa & Jean - the Courts, the Church and the Cops, Part 2 26.09.2022 46:41
In part two of their conversation with Jean and Teresa from The Keepers, Shane and Gemma continue to examine the troubled intersections of the courts, the church, and law enforcement in the Sister Cathy case. The discussion delves deeper into the systemic failures that have allowed perpetrators of clergy abuse to avoid accountability for decades. Jean and Teresa share their personal perspectives o...
82: Teresa & Jean - the Courts, the Church and the Cops, Part 1 23.09.2022 54:21
Shane and Gemma sit down with Jean and Teresa from the Netflix documentary The Keepers to discuss the courts, the church, and the cops. In part one of this two-part conversation, the focus falls squarely on the status of the four-year Maryland Attorney General investigation into clergy abuse within the Archdiocese of Baltimore. Jean and Teresa invite listeners to stand up for truth and actively su...
81: Walking with Aletheia 22.06.2022 54:40
Shane and Gemma are honored to host Jean Wehner, a key figure from the Netflix documentary The Keepers, along with her brother. This episode offers a deep and moving dive into Jean's newly published memoir, Walking with Aletheia, which chronicles her extraordinary journey of discovery, healing, and truth. Jean's story of resilience and courage captivated audiences worldwide, and here she p...
80: Safe in Socks - Teresa Lancaster's Journey 15.03.2022 29:22
The 80th episode of the series features a profound and moving discussion with Teresa Lancaster, a pivotal figure from the acclaimed Netflix documentary series The Keepers. Teresa courageously shares her harrowing experiences of abuse within the Catholic Church and her relentless, decades-long pursuit of justice and accountability. In this episode, Teresa delves into her book Safe N Socks, a poigna...
79: The Brother - Unveiling Hidden Paths 03.11.2021 39:14
Shane and Gemma delve deeper into the unsolved murder of Sister Cathy Cesnik with an enlightening interview with 'the brother,' a religious figure who shares his unique and personal perspective on Sister Cathy's life and the events leading up to her tragic disappearance and death in 1969. The brother offers a rare glimpse into his own interactions with Sister Cathy, reflecting on the p...
78: Inside Richter's Office 09.06.2021 41:22
Shane and Gemma discuss the courageous decision of Liz, a former medical assistant, to come forward publicly with her experiences working for Dr. Christian Richter. Liz's account adds a chilling and previously unknown layer of detail to the tangled narrative surrounding the Sister Cathy case and the alleged criminal activities linked to both Richter and Joseph Maskell. Throughout the episode,...
77: Echoes of Tragedy - The Pamela Conyers Case 02.06.2021 35:21
Shane and Gemma delve into a case that potentially intersects with the unsolved murders of both Sister Cathy Cesnik and Joyce Malecki. They are joined by Ingrid, the niece of Pamela Conyers, who shares the haunting details of her aunt's tragic death and her family's ongoing quest for justice. Pamela Lynn Conyers, a student at Glen Burnie High School, disappeared after attending a homecomin...
76: Live Q&A - Unraveling the Mystery, Part 2 26.05.2021 43:28
Continuing the live Q&A format, Shane and Gemma address more listener questions in part two of this dynamic interactive session. The hosts tackle additional theories, evidence questions, and recent case developments raised by their deeply engaged community of followers. This episode dives into specific topics that listeners have been eager to explore, including the roles and potential motives...
75: Live Q&A - Unraveling the Mystery, Part 1 19.05.2021 55:15
In an interactive and dynamic episode, Shane and Gemma take their investigation into the public sphere with a live podcast session dedicated to answering listener questions. This episode offers a unique opportunity for the audience to engage directly with the hosts, bringing their individual queries and theories to the forefront of the discussion. Throughout this energetic live broadcast, Shane an...
74: Who was Sister Russell? 12.05.2021 32:51
Shane and Gemma sit down with Beth, a former student and close friend of Sister Russell Phillips. This episode offers a unique and deeply personal insight into the life of Sister Russell, a significant figure who served as Sister Cathy Cesnik's roommate and remains a key person in the unfolding events of the case. Beth shares her close connection with Sister Russell, delving into the complexit...
73: From Shadows to Light – Erin's Journey 05.05.2021 48:41
Shane and Gemma engage in a powerful and deeply personal conversation with Erin, a long-time friend of the podcast whose story is both devastating and ultimately hopeful. Erin's account is a stark testament to the destructive consequences of trauma and addiction, yet it also serves as a beacon of hope for recovery and resilience. Erin bravely opens up about her experiences with familial abuse,...
72: Chasing Alice – Lessons from a Tragedy 05.01.2021 41:50
Gemma and Shane are joined by Stephanie Fowler, whose book Chasing Alice delves into the harrowing account of her high school teacher Alice, a beacon of hope and refuge during Stephanie's troubled youth. Stephanie's intimate conversation with the hosts reveals the transformative impact Alice had on her life and the heartrending story of Alice's murder at the hands of her own husband. T...
71: Keeping On with Gemma 04.01.2021 18:19
In a heartfelt and introspective episode, the spotlight shines on Gemma Hoskins, whose tireless quest for truth has transcended the role of a former student to become that of a published author and tenacious investigator. Gemma shares poignant chapters from her newly published book, Keeping On, inviting listeners into the intimate spaces of her memories, motivations, and the ongoing personal journ...
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