Shane Waters, Gemma Hoskins

Who Killed Sister Cathy?

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Join Gemma Hoskins, the beloved advocate from Netflix's The Keepers , and veteran crime podcaster Shane Waters as they revisit the unsolved murder of Sister Cathy Cesnik, a young nun whose mysterious death in 1969 has haunted Baltimore for decades. Who Killed Sister Cathy? goes beyond the documentary, bringing you new interviews, fresh perspectives, and revelations that have never been heard before. Together, Gemma and Shane are relentless in their pursuit of the truth, unraveling secrets and untold stories that point to a conspiracy that shook a community to its core. This is not just a podca...

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Shane Waters, Gemma Hoskins

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May 20, 2026

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Episodes

70: Deciphering Deceit – More Behavioral Analysis 03.01.2021

This episode dives deeper into the murky waters of truth and falsehood as Shane and Gemma reconvene with Mike, the behavior detection specialist with extensive federal experience. This follow-up episode continues the exploration of lies and deception that began in earlier episodes, now scrutinizing additional interviews and interactions featured in the Netflix documentary The Keepers to unearth si...

69: The Inner Circle – A Round Table on Maskell and Memories 02.01.2021

Shane and Gemma facilitate a remarkable round table discussion featuring key figures from the acclaimed Netflix documentary The Keepers. This extraordinary assembly opens a multi-faceted dialogue on the enigmatic and ominous figure of Father Joseph Maskell, his tenure as a teacher at Loyola, and the dark shroud of allegations linking him to the CIA's infamous MKUltra program. The guests share...

68: Organized Abuse – A Global Call to Action 07.04.2020

Shane and Gemma join forces with Associate Professor Michael Salter, a criminologist from the University of New South Wales and a leading international expert on organized sexual abuse. Salter brings critical knowledge and professional urgency to the conversation, spotlighting a subject that has historically been met with doubt and deliberate misapprehension by institutions. The discussion examine...

67: Unmasking Deception – The Language of Lies, Part 2 25.03.2020

In part two of this examination of deception and human behavior, Mike continues to share his specialized expertise in detecting lies and evaluating the truthfulness of testimony. Building on the analysis established in the previous episode, Shane, Gemma, and Mike apply rigorous behavior detection principles to additional interviews and statements from individuals connected to the Sister Cathy case...

66: Unmasking Deception – The Language of Lies, Part 1 11.03.2020

Shane and Gemma are joined by Mike, a seasoned expert in behavior detection with an extensive background in federal government operations. Mike brings his specialized expertise to illuminate the subtle nuances of human behavior under scrutiny. His personal account of a traumatic upbringing in a Catholic school system, marred by harsh discipline and institutional indifference, sets the stage for a...

65: The Fight for Justice – The Hidden Predator Act 2020, Part 2 04.03.2020

Part two continues the immersive coverage from the Hidden Predator Act hearing in Annapolis, Maryland, capturing additional powerful testimony and legislative debate from February 20th. Survivors and advocates make their compelling case before lawmakers for reforming the statutes of limitations that have shielded institutional predators from legal accountability for decades. The voices of abuse su...

64: The Fight for Justice – The Hidden Predator Act 2020, Part 1 26.02.2020

In a compelling departure from its regular format, this episode presents an immersive audio experience recorded directly from the legislative heart of Maryland. Departing from the familiar studio setting, the episode channels the raw advocacy and powerful testimonies that resonated through the halls of Annapolis on February 20th during the hearing for the Hidden Predator Act of 2020. Part one capt...

63: Voices Unheard – Listener Q&A, Part 3 12.02.2020

In the concluding part of the three-part listener Q&A series, Shane and Gemma address the final batch of audience questions about Sister Cathy's case. This episode brings thoughtful closure to many lingering questions while honestly acknowledging the significant mysteries that remain unsolved. The hosts reflect on the profound impact the investigation has had on them personally and on the...

62: Voices Unheard – Listener Q&A, Part 2 29.01.2020

Shane and Gemma continue their engaging listener Q&A in part two of this three-part interactive series. Addressing more of the many thoughtful questions submitted by their audience, the hosts delve into specific theories, evidence, and the broader implications of the case. This episode explores listener questions about specific suspects, the role and responsibility of the Church hierarchy, and...

61: Voices Unheard – Listener Q&A, Part 1 22.01.2020

In a special interactive session, hosts Shane and Gemma open the floor to their dedicated audience in part one of a three-part listener Q&A series. This episode addresses the many thoughtful questions submitted by listeners throughout the series' run, connecting with the audience on a personal level to discuss the multifaceted aspects of Sister Cathy's case and its far-reaching implica...

60: Confronting the Unspeakable – Child Abuse and Recovery 15.01.2020

This profound episode features hosts Shane and Gemma in conversation with Kate MacDowell, a seasoned expert in trauma therapy with 26 years of clinical experience in the field. Kate's deeply personal journey as a survivor of child sexual abuse within the Archdiocese of Minnesota lends an authentic and urgent voice to the dialogue, resonating with the gravity of lived experience. Together they...

59: The Examiner's Tale – A Forensic Reckoning 08.01.2020

In a unique solo episode, Gemma conducts a rare and illuminating interview with Dr. Werner Spitz, the renowned forensic pathologist whose expertise has shed light on some of the most challenging criminal cases in recent American history. Dr. Spitz's role as the Medical Examiner for Baltimore County at the time of Sister Cathy's murder places him in a unique position to shed light on the co...

57: Decoding the Cover-Up, Part 4 01.01.2020

Shane welcomes back investigative reporter Tom Nugent for the fourth and final installment examining the cover-up surrounding Sister Cathy's case. Building on three preceding episodes of meticulous investigation, this episode synthesizes the accumulated evidence of corruption, church complicity, and law enforcement entanglement into a cohesive picture. The discussion turns to what justice migh...

56: Decoding the Cover-Up, Part 3 11.12.2019

In part three of the series with investigative reporter Tom Nugent, the veteran journalist and Shane continue their deep examination of the conspiracy surrounding Sister Cathy's case. This concluding installment ties together the complex threads of corruption, institutional complicity, and law enforcement failures explored throughout the series. The discussion brings new clarity to the web of...

55: Decoding the Cover-Up, Part 2 04.12.2019

In part two of the three-part series with investigative reporter Tom Nugent, Shane continues peeling back the layers of conspiracy surrounding the Sister Cathy case. Their probing dialogue ventures deeper into Baltimore's intertwined histories of corruption, church complicity, and the troubling role of law enforcement in political scandals that stretched far beyond the Church itself. Building...

54: Decoding the Cover-Up, Part 1 20.11.2019

In part one of an incisive three-part series, Shane welcomes back investigative reporter Tom Nugent to peel back the complex layers surrounding the Sister Cathy case. Shane and Tom engage in a probing dialogue that ventures into the heart of Baltimore's darkest institutional histories, uncovering persistent threads of corruption, church complicity, and law enforcement's enigmatic role in s...

53: Reflections of a Legacy 08.11.2019

This solemn episode marks the passage of five decades since the world was robbed of a compassionate and dedicated soul. Hosts Shane and Gemma invite listeners to join in a moment of reflection, honoring the life of Sister Cathy Cesnik, who left her Carriage House Apartment for the last time fifty years ago. Rather than focusing on the enduring mystery of her death, this episode celebrates the life...

52: The Hunter - Unearthing the Unthinkable 30.10.2019

Shane and Gemma sit down with George Brown, the man who stumbled upon the grim scene that would ultimately reignite the search for justice in Sister Cathy's case. George's narrative is a crucial and often misunderstood piece of the puzzle in understanding the events surrounding Sister Cathy's death. He recounts his life with vivid clarity, providing essential backdrop to the day he fou...

51: Tom Nugent - A Journalist's Quest, Part 2 09.10.2019

Shane and Gemma continue their conversation with veteran journalist Tom Nugent in the second part of this revealing two-part dialogue. Nugent shares deeper insights from his own independent investigations into the Sister Cathy case, examining the persistent threads that connect institutional corruption, law enforcement failures, and the ongoing cover-up that has kept this case unsolved for more th...

50: Tom Nugent - A Journalist's Quest, Part 1 02.10.2019

In this milestone 50th episode, Shane and Gemma are joined by veteran journalist Tom Nugent, who brings decades of investigative acumen to the case of Sister Cathy Cesnik. With a distinguished career dedicated to uncovering truth in complex and often dangerous narratives, Nugent's involvement provides an invaluable journalistic perspective on the investigation. Throughout part one of this two-...

49: Beyond the Veil – A Nun's Choice, Part 2 25.09.2019

In part two, Gemma and Shane continue their evocative conversation with Sr. Rose Pacatte about Sister Cathy Cesnik's momentous decision to leave religious life. Sr. Rose provides further nuanced insight into the tensions between institutional obedience and personal conscience that defined this turbulent era of the Catholic Church. The discussion explores what Sister Cathy may have been grappli...

48: Beyond the Veil – A Nun's Choice, Part 1 18.09.2019

Gemma and Shane engage in an evocative and thought-provoking conversation with Sr. Rose Pacatte about the profound implications of Sister Cathy Cesnik's decision to leave the convent before her untimely death. Sr. Rose, a discerning voice on matters of faith and a seasoned scholar in media studies, provides an informed perspective on the life Sister Cathy chose to step away from, as well as th...

47: The Redacted Truths – MKUltra's Children 11.09.2019

In the wake of the profound revelations from the previous episodes, Shane pores over a declassified document that pulls back the curtain on the chilling practices of the CIA's MKUltra program. This episode brings to light a heavily redacted CIA document from 1951 detailing experiments conducted on two young girls -- a stark and deeply disturbing reminder of the program's reach and the inno...

46: A Survivor's Account – Unveiling MKUltra, Part 2 04.09.2019

In the second part of this powerful episode, Lynn continues sharing her harrowing survivor testimony with hosts Shane and Gemma. Her account of systematic abuse spans institutions and government programs, painting a disturbing and deeply unsettling picture that connects directly to Father Maskell's alleged activities and the broader MKUltra experimentation program. Lynn's story illuminates...

45: A Survivor's Account – Unveiling MKUltra, Part 1 28.08.2019

In an exceptionally powerful episode, Shane and Gemma sit with Lynn, a survivor whose life story challenges the very foundations of the trust we place in our institutions. Lynn's chilling account of abuse spans from family betrayal to being a pawn in what she describes as a government-sanctioned nightmare of unimaginable cruelty. Her testimony aligns with the darkest aspects of Father Maskell&...

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