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Verse Talks

Arts EN ↓ 96 episodes

Discussing the latest news in digital art with Leyla Fakhr and Jamie Gourlay.

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Oct 20, 2026

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Episodes

Eli Scheinman: digital art coming to Art Basel Miami 14.11.2025

00:28 - Welcome (back!) Eli 01:10 – Preparing for Miami Beach 01:40 – Marfa and Las Vegas: Yuga Labs, collectors and community on the road 5:50 – The digital council: advising on the digital art ecosystem 7:08 – Leaning into digital art in a post-hype moment 7:50 – 1,000 m² space at Art Basel Miami Beach + global initiative 9:50 – Cultivating a new audience vs “just more sales” 18:20 – How Zero 10...

OSF: from a doodle to a $100 million token 07.11.2025

00:30 - Welcome OSF  01:40 - Coping with volatility and market panic  03:16 - The origins of RektGuy  06:15 - Managing impostor syndrome  09:15 - A community born in the bear market  10:55 - Pushing against societal definitions of an artist  12:56 - From PFP collection to drinks company  14:19 - The importance of branching out from NFTs  16:50 - Creating brand identity out of the art  19:20 - The...

David Shrigley: finding humour in art 31.10.2025

01:08 - Leaving art school and early success   03:15 - Staying true to your artistic voice  06:00 - Whitehawk and Nottingham Forest  07:13 - Frieze Magazine, Transmission Gallery and Err  10:46 - Tapping one's internal monologue  12:04 - The importance of comedy in art  14:15 - Shrig Shop, merchandise and exploring context  19:01 - Chocolate's Not The Problem, You Are The Problem  23:10...

Roundtable with Motzko & Lonliboy: the aesthetic experience of scrolling 28.10.2025

00:25 - Welcome Motzko  03:22 - Marfa recap   07:50 - Connecting and consolidating relationships  11:28 - Marfa highlights  13:50 - Fallout from the Raoul clip  19:16 - Navigating the social media landscape  26:00 - Motzko's collecting thesis 31:41 - Creating an aesthetic experience while scrolling  34:50 - Outside perspectives and judgments  36:37 - Silicon Valley's silence around NFTs ...

Redbeard: conviction, community and refining your focus 24.10.2025

00:35 - Welcome Redbeard  02:58 - Discovering digital art  05:03 - Too many sellers, not enough buyers  09:13 - Debunking the cabal  15:13 - Power laws, high prices and rising tides  18:42 - Building relationships and community  22:30 - Uplifting voices and building on history  23:17 - The importance of open-minded participation  25:55 - Being part of a movement and making an impact  29:08 - Zoom...

Hilde Lynn Helphenstein: the real Jerry Gogosian 17.10.2025

00:40 - Welcome Hilde Lynn Helphenstein 07:20 - Conservatism in the art world  10:02 - Early exposure to different cultures  11:54 - Conceptual Art, new genres and developing a practice  14:01 - The art world as a performance  16:54 - From Hooters to Art Basel  18:09 - The birth of Jerry Gogosian  22:24 - Problems built into the business model  24:43 - AI and the potential valuelessness of art  30...

Sasha Stiles: poetry in the age of AI 10.10.2025

00:42 - Welcome Sasha Stiles  04:55 - The foundations for an endless curiosity  09:50 - Connecting with Kalmyk art forms  13:40 - From academia to the arts  16:20 - New York, cultural absorption and parallel careers  19:05 - Living through pivotal technological shifts  21:52 - An ongoing cultural relationship with technology  23:20 - Nick Bostrom, Superintelligence and Attention Is All You Need  2...

Raoul Pal: from Real Vision to the new art world 04.10.2025

00:25 – Intro: Raoul Pal 01:05 – Real Vision: why it started after the GFC/Euro crisis 02:06 – Democratising finance content; early crypto coverage 03:41 – Bootstrapping video: “we knew f*** all” era (2013–14) 04:45 – Word of mouth growth; mistakes + learning media/tech 06:40 – Art + NFTs: desire to be part of a cultural movement 09:05 – Crypto Twitter as daily culture; priceless long-term record...

Adrian Pocobelli: from Ballard to digital art 26.09.2025

00:33 - Welcome Adrian Pocobelli  01:39 - Discovering the counterculture  07:10 - The desire to collect  13:05 - The Stone Roses, The Smiths, and J. G. Ballard  19:00 - Neoplatonism and psychedelics  24:30 - Learning the craft of graphic design  26:50 - Becoming a broadcaster  29:05 - Finding crypto, Objkt and Tezos  31:35 - The difference between crypto art and art on the blockchain  34:52 - The...

Sebastian Sanchez: digital art at Christie's, auction models, and the power of relational dynamics 19.09.2025

00:45 - Welcome Sebastian Sanchez  08:55 - A journey into digital art  11:05 - Christie's 3.0 and joining the team  17:44 - Developing a commercial mindset  20:40 - Finding the right market fit  22:30 - Nurturing artist and collector relationships  25:05 - Highlights across the last three years  26:58 - Curatorial vs commercial perspectives  30:18 - The effect of an open market on institution...

Verse round table: Verse secondary auctions, cultural stickiness and trusting the artist 12.09.2025

00:45 - Yeche Lange and Avant Gay recap  05:40 - Series size and collector focus  10:00 - Artist trajectories and release mechanics  13:10 - Art and the Diderot effect  20:10 - Collecting strategies and high-net-worth individuals  24:45 - What if every work was soulbound  28:30 - Cultural stickiness in the face of diluted attention  33:00 - Collecting as self narrative reinforcement  35:28 - Chris...

Eric De Giuli: breaking symmetry 10.09.2025

00:45 - Welcome Eric De Giuli  02:18 - Connecting art and theoretical physics  05:35 - Early explorations into generative art  08:29 - Balancing artistic and academic practices  10:35 - Discovering NFTs, 2021, and Art Blocks  13:05 - Navigating multiple audiences  16:25 - Creating order from nothing  18:55 - Avoiding noise as a structural element  23:50 - Amplifying and controlling unpredictabilit...

Rafaël Rozendaal: opening the door to Rooms 09.09.2025

00:35 - Welcome Rafaël Rozendaal  02:55 - The advantage of a conversational archive  06:21 - The influence of travel and cultural heritage  08:25 - Neen, LA and digital art in the late '90s  12:06 - Growing up in an artistic household  14:32 - Grants, funding and commercial pressure  16:35 - The potential of the early internet  21:00 - Art school and early connections  27:30 - Berlin and Post...

Jared Madere: Galerie Yeche Lange, VVV and the Avant Gay scene 05.09.2025

00:46 - Welcome Jared Madere  03:19 - The genesis of Yeche Lange  09:20 - Market consolidation and post-2021  11:00 - Exploring the role of the gallery in the Web3 space  16:18 - What caused the scene to develop on Solana  18:03 - The growth of community  21:59 -  Earl16o1, trader fiction and chart paintings  25:35 - Compatibility with the traditional sphere  31:40 - A new mode of operating for a...

Paul Pfeiffer: the art of the spectacle 04.09.2025

00:47 - Welcome Paul Pfeiffer  03:07 - The spectacle of sport  07:06 - Exploring the implications of new technology  10:05 - Working with digital media in the early 1990s  14:50 - The blurring of the digital and the human  20:08 - How media consumption has shifted across the last thirty years  23:50 - The stadium as mediatised architecture  30:57 - New work and developing projects      Paul Pfeiff...

Verse roundtable: diving into the Solana art trenches, consensus vs. non-consensus, bullposting and long-term value accrual 29.08.2025

00:48 - Diving into the Solana trenches  07:40 - PFP culture and Drilady  08:50 - Chain-specific culture and why Solana makes sense  14:26 - Parker Ito and the impact of Horses?2  17:00 - A different community of artists and collectors  19:00 - Jay's mid-curve meme  20:34 - Raoul Pal and consensus vs non-consensus  27:40 - Should we all be bullposting?  29:40 - AB[500] and does shuttering enc...

Parker Ito: exploring The Pilgrim’s Living Room Crucifixion; Mona Lisa Hyper-Gamble 28.08.2025

00:38 - Welcome Parker Ito  05:25 - Tumblr, Post-Internet scene and finding community  12:20 - The effect of early success  20:30 - Disillusionment with the art world  24:25 - What caused the market to boom  26:28 - Deep lore, Basel 2015 and Leonardo DiCaprio  30:01 - The compromises needed to work as an artist  33:03 - Through-lines and stylistic tropes  35:10 - A non-hierarchical approach  38:17...

Adam Levine: exploring the Toledo Museum of Art, cultural accessibility, platform sustainability, and why Artie is leaving the space 23.08.2025

00:48 - Welcome Adam Levine  01:15 - What sets the Toledo Museum of Art apart  05:22 - Ensuring the community has access to culture  07:20 - The benefit of private funding  10:10 - TMA's digital program  13:25 - The history and founding principles of the museum  21:20 - An emphasis on craft, skill and aesthetic quality  27:10 - Artist studios, manufacturing and industrial process  31:20 - Inf...

Harm van den Dorpel: Quantizer, algorithmic archeology, and digital preservation 20.08.2025

00:40 - Welcome Harm van den Dorpel  01:35 - Working with plotters  05:06 - Creative beginnings  08:45 - A grounding in early AI  11:20 - From tech to art school  13:50 - The shifting context around digital presentation 16:10 - The development of post-internet art  18:00 - Separating sales and practice  22:40 - Markov's Window  25:00 - Establishing Left gallery and discovering blockchain  30:...

Harm van den Dorpel and Regina Harsanyi (Twitter Spaces): the early days of Club Internet, the ephemerality of time based media and the birth of Quantizer 18.08.2025

00:44 - Welcome Harm van den Dorpel and Regina Harsanyi  03:05 - Nasty Nets, Club Internet and the early surf clubs  09:05 - Creating context and community through curation  12:40 - Ongoing scepticism around blockchain and NFTs  18:00 - Left Gallery, early blockchain based ownership and speculation  20:10 - The speed of secondary in the digital world  22:00 - On creating Quantizer  27:10 - A true...

Steve McKeon, investing in art, the birth of Glitch and the future of digital culture 15.08.2025

00:35 - Welcome Steve McKeon  02:25 - Navigating the dot-com boom and bust  08:19 - A winding path to tenure  13:20 - Discovering crypto  15:50 - Writing Traditional Asset Tokenisation  19:30 - The birth of Collab+Currency  24:50 - A shift to consumer focus and NFTs  28:30 - Equity vs tokens  33:45 - The Art Blocks [500]  36:15 - Collectibility and end caps  38:05 - Traditional art, sculpture and...

Terence Broad and Luba Elliott: unpacking (un)stable equilibrium 10.08.2025

03:00 - Luba Elliott on Terence Broad  04:15 - Autoencoding Blade Runner  09:25 - Machine learning in 2016  12:31 - Arriving at the crossroads of technology and art  15:35 - Why Blade Runner?  19:05 - Luba and Terrence's collaboration through Feral File  22:06 - (un)stable equilibrium  25:00 - The conceptual journey behind the work  29:50 - Imperfect copies and more constraints  31:35 - The c...

Roger Dickerman: the origin of 24 Hours of Art, finding a deliberate imbalance and the objectivity of price action 09.08.2025

00:50 - Welcome Roger Dickerman  02:48 - The importance of a physical space  06:02 - Roger's journey into digital art  07:45 - A deliberate imbalance  11:02 - Controlling the bookends  14:15 - The birth of Artifex and 24 Hours of Art  20:25 - Sustainability and longevity  22:35 - Putting the work in and riding out the bear  24:45 - A process of iteration and evolution  28:35 - "One foot...

Eli Scheinman: building context, courting the traditional collector and working with Art Basel 25.07.2025

This week we sat down with seasoned advisor Eli Scheinman to discuss his new role at Art Basel, what’s driving the market’s fresh momentum, how today’s collectors are maturing and how to frame emerging work for a more traditional crowd. 00:50 - Welcome Eli Scheinman  02:39 - Why the market's moving  04:30 - The trickle-down effect of big sales  07:07 - New entrants into the space  09:48 - The...

Nikita Diakur: The strangely beautiful world of Ugly, balancing parallel creative paths and his upcoming SOLOS exhibition 14.07.2025

This week Leyla sits down with artist and filmmaker Nikita Diakur to explore his journey in the art and film worlds, spotlighting his acclaimed short film 'Ugly'. They dive into the film's themes and the creative process behind it, as well as his artistic identity, experiences with NFTs, and his upcoming exhibition on Verse with SOLOS.  00:40 - Welcome Nikita Diakur  02:20 - Identit...

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