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Verse Talks

Arts EN ↓ 88 episodes

Discussing the latest news in digital art with Leyla Fakhr and Jamie Gourlay.

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Verse

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Arts

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Latest episode

Jun 28, 2026

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Episodes

Adrian Pocobelli: from Ballard to digital art 26.09.2025

00:33 - Welcome Adrian Pocobelli  01:39 - Discovering the counterculture  07:10 - The desire to collect  13:05 - The Stone Roses, The Smiths, and J. G. Ballard  19:00 - Neoplatonism and psychedelics  24:30 - Learning the craft of graphic design  26:50 - Becoming a broadcaster  29:05 - Finding crypto, Objkt and Tezos  31:35 - The difference between crypto art and art on the blockchain  34:52 - The...

Sebastian Sanchez: digital art at Christie's, auction models, and the power of relational dynamics 19.09.2025

00:45 - Welcome Sebastian Sanchez  08:55 - A journey into digital art  11:05 - Christie's 3.0 and joining the team  17:44 - Developing a commercial mindset  20:40 - Finding the right market fit  22:30 - Nurturing artist and collector relationships  25:05 - Highlights across the last three years  26:58 - Curatorial vs commercial perspectives  30:18 - The effect of an open market on institution...

Verse round table: Verse secondary auctions, cultural stickiness and trusting the artist 12.09.2025

00:45 - Yeche Lange and Avant Gay recap  05:40 - Series size and collector focus  10:00 - Artist trajectories and release mechanics  13:10 - Art and the Diderot effect  20:10 - Collecting strategies and high-net-worth individuals  24:45 - What if every work was soulbound  28:30 - Cultural stickiness in the face of diluted attention  33:00 - Collecting as self narrative reinforcement  35:28 - Chris...

Eric De Giuli: breaking symmetry 10.09.2025

00:45 - Welcome Eric De Giuli  02:18 - Connecting art and theoretical physics  05:35 - Early explorations into generative art  08:29 - Balancing artistic and academic practices  10:35 - Discovering NFTs, 2021, and Art Blocks  13:05 - Navigating multiple audiences  16:25 - Creating order from nothing  18:55 - Avoiding noise as a structural element  23:50 - Amplifying and controlling unpredictabilit...

Rafaël Rozendaal: opening the door to Rooms 09.09.2025

00:35 - Welcome Rafaël Rozendaal  02:55 - The advantage of a conversational archive  06:21 - The influence of travel and cultural heritage  08:25 - Neen, LA and digital art in the late '90s  12:06 - Growing up in an artistic household  14:32 - Grants, funding and commercial pressure  16:35 - The potential of the early internet  21:00 - Art school and early connections  27:30 - Berlin and Post...

Jared Madere: Galerie Yeche Lange, VVV and the Avant Gay scene 05.09.2025

00:46 - Welcome Jared Madere  03:19 - The genesis of Yeche Lange  09:20 - Market consolidation and post-2021  11:00 - Exploring the role of the gallery in the Web3 space  16:18 - What caused the scene to develop on Solana  18:03 - The growth of community  21:59 -  Earl16o1, trader fiction and chart paintings  25:35 - Compatibility with the traditional sphere  31:40 - A new mode of operating for a...

Paul Pfeiffer: the art of the spectacle 04.09.2025

00:47 - Welcome Paul Pfeiffer  03:07 - The spectacle of sport  07:06 - Exploring the implications of new technology  10:05 - Working with digital media in the early 1990s  14:50 - The blurring of the digital and the human  20:08 - How media consumption has shifted across the last thirty years  23:50 - The stadium as mediatised architecture  30:57 - New work and developing projects      Paul Pfeiff...

Verse roundtable: diving into the Solana art trenches, consensus vs. non-consensus, bullposting and long-term value accrual 29.08.2025

00:48 - Diving into the Solana trenches  07:40 - PFP culture and Drilady  08:50 - Chain-specific culture and why Solana makes sense  14:26 - Parker Ito and the impact of Horses?2  17:00 - A different community of artists and collectors  19:00 - Jay's mid-curve meme  20:34 - Raoul Pal and consensus vs non-consensus  27:40 - Should we all be bullposting?  29:40 - AB[500] and does shuttering enc...

Parker Ito: exploring The Pilgrim’s Living Room Crucifixion; Mona Lisa Hyper-Gamble 28.08.2025

00:38 - Welcome Parker Ito  05:25 - Tumblr, Post-Internet scene and finding community  12:20 - The effect of early success  20:30 - Disillusionment with the art world  24:25 - What caused the market to boom  26:28 - Deep lore, Basel 2015 and Leonardo DiCaprio  30:01 - The compromises needed to work as an artist  33:03 - Through-lines and stylistic tropes  35:10 - A non-hierarchical approach  38:17...

Adam Levine: exploring the Toledo Museum of Art, cultural accessibility, platform sustainability, and why Artie is leaving the space 23.08.2025

00:48 - Welcome Adam Levine  01:15 - What sets the Toledo Museum of Art apart  05:22 - Ensuring the community has access to culture  07:20 - The benefit of private funding  10:10 - TMA's digital program  13:25 - The history and founding principles of the museum  21:20 - An emphasis on craft, skill and aesthetic quality  27:10 - Artist studios, manufacturing and industrial process  31:20 - Inf...

Harm van den Dorpel: Quantizer, algorithmic archeology, and digital preservation 20.08.2025

00:40 - Welcome Harm van den Dorpel  01:35 - Working with plotters  05:06 - Creative beginnings  08:45 - A grounding in early AI  11:20 - From tech to art school  13:50 - The shifting context around digital presentation 16:10 - The development of post-internet art  18:00 - Separating sales and practice  22:40 - Markov's Window  25:00 - Establishing Left gallery and discovering blockchain  30:...

Harm van den Dorpel and Regina Harsanyi (Twitter Spaces): the early days of Club Internet, the ephemerality of time based media and the birth of Quantizer 18.08.2025

00:44 - Welcome Harm van den Dorpel and Regina Harsanyi  03:05 - Nasty Nets, Club Internet and the early surf clubs  09:05 - Creating context and community through curation  12:40 - Ongoing scepticism around blockchain and NFTs  18:00 - Left Gallery, early blockchain based ownership and speculation  20:10 - The speed of secondary in the digital world  22:00 - On creating Quantizer  27:10 - A true...

Steve McKeon, investing in art, the birth of Glitch and the future of digital culture 15.08.2025

00:35 - Welcome Steve McKeon  02:25 - Navigating the dot-com boom and bust  08:19 - A winding path to tenure  13:20 - Discovering crypto  15:50 - Writing Traditional Asset Tokenisation  19:30 - The birth of Collab+Currency  24:50 - A shift to consumer focus and NFTs  28:30 - Equity vs tokens  33:45 - The Art Blocks [500]  36:15 - Collectibility and end caps  38:05 - Traditional art, sculpture and...

Terence Broad and Luba Elliott: unpacking (un)stable equilibrium 10.08.2025

03:00 - Luba Elliott on Terence Broad  04:15 - Autoencoding Blade Runner  09:25 - Machine learning in 2016  12:31 - Arriving at the crossroads of technology and art  15:35 - Why Blade Runner?  19:05 - Luba and Terrence's collaboration through Feral File  22:06 - (un)stable equilibrium  25:00 - The conceptual journey behind the work  29:50 - Imperfect copies and more constraints  31:35 - The c...

Roger Dickerman: the origin of 24 Hours of Art, finding a deliberate imbalance and the objectivity of price action 09.08.2025

00:50 - Welcome Roger Dickerman  02:48 - The importance of a physical space  06:02 - Roger's journey into digital art  07:45 - A deliberate imbalance  11:02 - Controlling the bookends  14:15 - The birth of Artifex and 24 Hours of Art  20:25 - Sustainability and longevity  22:35 - Putting the work in and riding out the bear  24:45 - A process of iteration and evolution  28:35 - "One foot...

Eli Scheinman: building context, courting the traditional collector and working with Art Basel 25.07.2025

This week we sat down with seasoned advisor Eli Scheinman to discuss his new role at Art Basel, what’s driving the market’s fresh momentum, how today’s collectors are maturing and how to frame emerging work for a more traditional crowd. 00:50 - Welcome Eli Scheinman  02:39 - Why the market's moving  04:30 - The trickle-down effect of big sales  07:07 - New entrants into the space  09:48 - The...

Nikita Diakur: The strangely beautiful world of Ugly, balancing parallel creative paths and his upcoming SOLOS exhibition 14.07.2025

This week Leyla sits down with artist and filmmaker Nikita Diakur to explore his journey in the art and film worlds, spotlighting his acclaimed short film 'Ugly'. They dive into the film's themes and the creative process behind it, as well as his artistic identity, experiences with NFTs, and his upcoming exhibition on Verse with SOLOS.  00:40 - Welcome Nikita Diakur  02:20 - Identit...

Natalie Stone and Shane Lavalette: The next chapter of CryptoPunks, collecting against the trend and curation as the new PFP 27.06.2025

This week we sat down with former General Manager of CryptoPunks and founder of StoneWork Natalie Stone, and artist, gallerist and broker Shane Lavalette. We unpack Stone's journey into NFTs, Node’s Punks acquisition, and the enduring passion of the community as well as the evolution of curation and collector identity, Shane's thought process when looking at an artist's body of work...

Tyler Hobbs: navigating the traditional and digital worlds, prioritising the art, and dealing with the effect of a legacy 20.06.2025

We sat down this week with long-form generative pioneer Tyler Hobbs to explore Day Gardens, his new body of work released with La Collection at Art Basel this week. They dive into the balance between personal life and artistic career, and the future of generative art in a rapidly changing landscape, as well as the effect of audience expectations and market dynamics on a creative practice. 00:50 -...

Erik Swahn: inside Soma 18.06.2025

Jamie and Leyla sit down with artist Erik Swahn in advance of his upcoming series Soma. They discuss his artistic evolution, the impact of attention on creativity, and the relationship between colour and music. The conversation delves into the title and concept of Soma, as well as Erik's thoughts on the future of his artistic practice.  01:10 - Welcome Erik Swahn  02:40 - The effect of attent...

Sofia Garcia: the birth of ARTXCODE, building relationships and the future of art 13.06.2025

Jamie and Leyla sit down with Sofia Garcia to explore her journey through digital art, from the early days of ARTXCODE and building lasting relationships, to navigating the 2021 hype and envisioning the future of art in the age of the internet. 1:00 - Welcome Sofia Garcia  05:25 - The birth of ARTXCODE  10:50 - Selling works at CADAF and the first mint  17:10 - Finding an organic aesthetic in the...

Making markets, creating value and building for the long-term 06.06.2025

Jay, Jamie, Ivan and Leyla sit down together and examine the markets growing optimism, gallery models, transparency and creating value and confidence for both artists and collectors.      01:00 - Jay's summer break  05:53 - Twitter toxicity and curating your social feeds  09:30 - The market's heating up  15:40 - Speculation vs desire   18:30 - The confidence speculation can inspire in a...

Ciphrd & Cosimo from fx(hash): open-form, $FXH, art coins and the importance of an open platform 30.05.2025

Jamie, Ivan and Leyla sit down with Ciphrd and Cosimo from fxhash to explore their new Open-form protocol, the launch of the $FXH token and how the two platforms differ in their approaches. 00:50 - Welcome Ciphrd and Cosimo  03:17 - Digging into art coins  09:50 - Token mechanics and pricing mechanisms  12:08 - A new method of patronage  17:25 - Speculation and new market participants  21:02 - The...

Snowfro: democratising art, navigating success and the realities of gatekeeping 23.05.2025

Welcoming Erick Calderon aka Snowfro, to discuss all things generative, Art Blocks, Generative Goods, the difficulty of wearing multiple hats, the weight of people's expectations and dealing with competition in the space.       01:02 - Welcome Snowfro  01:40 - Bringing the energy and shaping culture  03:45 - The headspace of a founder vs an artist  05:25 - Being pulled in different directions...

Beeple: 69 problems but p*nises ain't one 16.05.2025

Jay, Ivan, Leyla and Jamie sit down with Beeple to discuss the importance of authenticity, virality, the role of galleries in web3 and the responsibility of curatorial uplift in an attention economy.  00:50 - Welcome Beeple  01:33 - Avoiding burnout and connecting with an audience  04:30 - Looking back across an artistic practice  06:06 - When is a work finished and the exploratory role of an arti...

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