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Verse Talks
Discussing the latest news in digital art with Leyla Fakhr and Jamie Gourlay.
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Episodes
Ed Fornieles on Identity in the Internet Age 28.06.2026 49:56
Artist Ed Fornieles joins Verse Talk to discuss Borrowed Lives: Anon 2026 , a body of work exploring how the internet shapes identity. The conversation ranges from Tumblr and 4chan to memes, online belonging, gamer culture, masculinity, AI, and what it means to grow up in a world where images never stop arriving. Along the way, Ed discusses his wider practice, why online communities matter, and h...
Trevor Paglen: curating Basel Switzerland’s first Zero 10 15.06.2026 42:55
00:18 - Welcome Trevor Paglen 01:17 - Co-curating Zero 10 Basel 03:34 - Beyond labels and distinctions 05:36 - Blending traditional and digital audiences 08:45 - A blockchain agnostic view 11:44 - NFTs, legitimacy and cultural perception 15:08 - How the art world has shifted 18:00 - The collapse of the mid-tier gallery 20:45 - NFTs as an alternative path for artists 22:58 - Selecting artists...
Jalil: Visualise Value, Checks and a new auction house for Cryptopunks 14.06.2026 1:25:39
00:24 - Welcome Jalil 03:29 - From art to coding 07:04 - Finding Web3 and NFTs 08:05 - Finding Visualize Value and community 14:01 - The Permissionless Apprentice and connecting with Jack 18:47 - Embracing Ethereum and learning Solidity 22:10 - Scapes 24:24 - Experiencing the NFT boom 29:46 - From rock bottom to Checks 35:08 - Building the Checks contracts 39:39 - How Checks works ...
Nuclear Samurai: BRAINROT 08.06.2026 56:45
00:14 - Welcome Nuclear Samurai 02:51 - Expectations going into the mint 06:13 - Why choose Verse for BRAINROT 08:59 - Early explorations in digital art 11:59 - Fine art to fashion photography 16:04 - Rediscovering NFTs in 2022 17:30 - Finding community on X 20:27 - New technologies and artistic freedom 24:21 - Cultivating a broad audience 28:03 - The Artist as a Founder 29:14 - The imp...
sssluke and Brian Droitcour: New Bad Image 29.04.2026 1:11:12
00:18 - Welcome Brian Droitcour and sssluke 02:50 - Burnout and returning online 04:50 - Brian and the origins of Outland 07:54 - A mismatch in value systems and the importance of critique 10:03 - Outland's relaunch as a nonprofit 12:41 - How important are NFTs to digital art 15:46 - Why try to bridge different art worlds 21:11 - New Bad Image 22:27 - Evil Biscuit and the avant scene 25:5...
Simon Hudson and Justin Gilanyi: cultural architecture, patronage and Art Basel Hong Kong 13.04.2026 1:01:16
00:30 - Welcome Simon Hudson and Justin Gilanyi 05:32 - Building cultural architecture 06:46 - How Justin and Simon met 10:33 - Art Basel Hong Kong group dynamics 11:55 - A collaborative mindset 12:47 - Comparing the energy in Miami and Hong Kong 14:58 - Botto installation lessons 18:54 - Pre-sales and fair prep 20:55 - New gallery models working with fairs 24:00 - Exposure costs a...
Tabor Robak and Harvey Rayner: from Human Resources to Art Basel Hong Kong 22.03.2026 1:28:29
00:23 - Welcome Harvey Rayner and Tabor Robak 01:40 - Human Resources launch and mint-out 04:44 - Tabor's thoughts post-mint 07:00 - Organic growth, communication and momentum building 09:00 - First reactions: risk, confusion and conceptual clarity 11:00 - Roleplay, identity and embodying PFPs 13:00 - Timing, AI and why the project works now 15:00 - The state of PFP culture and shifting expec...
Abigail Miller and Micol Ap: sustainability, growth and long-term thinking 25.02.2026 1:25:26
00:20 - Welcome Abigail Miller and Micol 01:07 - Micol’s journey into digital art and NFTs 02:20 - From corporate to crypto art 04:12 - Expectations and burnout 05:26 - Abigail’s background 06:26 - The Fulbright program, Russia and cultural diplomacy 09:32 - Crypto roots and art school 11:07 - Space struggles and growth 14:25 - Echo chamber and reset 18:46 - Financialization vs. experimentation 2...
Jack Butcher, Adrian Pocobelli and Emir Dino: The shifting state of the digital art market 15.02.2026 1:26:12
00:24 - Verse Talks returns 02:55 - The state of affairs in digital art 04:40 - Launching new work, market cycles and algorithm whiplash 07:56 - Focusing on the internet as a canvas 09:15 - The difficulty in bridging crypto and wider internet culture 16:15 - Where are all the new artists post Art Basel's success? 17:55 - Crypto liquidity and its impact on the digital art market 20:34 - B...
Tabor Robak: Human Resources and the Tabcorp shared universe 23.01.2026 1:19:36
00:26 - Welcome (back) Tabor Robak 01:40 - Broken Printer and Tabcorp Labs 03:25 - The Tabcorp universe 05:25 - Human Resources and exploring PFP as a genre 11:10 - A critique of corporate culture 12:45 - The process behind Human Resources 16:05 - Traits and rarity 19:00 - Are we the PFPs? 19:57 - Community and the future of Tabcorp 21:50 - Between the traditional and web3 art worlds 25:...
Rhea Myers: making art to understand the world 09.01.2026 1:55:01
01:18 - Welcome Rhea Myers 01:26 - Rhea's journey into art and technology 02:08 - Art school experiences and early career 07:56 - An anthropological approach to the tech industry 10:59 - An artistic approach to programming 17:43 - Blockchain and cultural observations 24:39 - Early days of blockchain and crypto art 37:47 - TORCHED H34R7S 42:05 - Challenges in works that depend on audience part...
Phil Mohun: building Node Foundation and the future of digital art 19.12.2025 47:59
00:26 - Welcome Phil Mohun 01:44 - The vision behind Node Foundation 03:23 - Why Palo Alto? 04:05 - The importance of Silicon Valley 06:14 - The role of Node in the art community 15:09 - Node's programming and seasonal approach 19:02 - Focus on presentation, education, and preservation 25:18 - CryptoPunks and ERC standards 26:36 - Yuga's contribution and collection bids 28:06 - Creating...
Terence Broad: from Blade Runner to (un)stable equilibrium 14.12.2025 1:12:28
01:44 - Welcome Terence Broad 02:41 - Terry's early artistic journey 07:16 - Transition to creative computing 14:03 - Exploring AI and generative art 15:45 - DeepDream and AI visual understanding 19:42 - Blade Runner—Autoencoded 25:56 - From Whitney to worldwide 34:12 - Balancing an art and tech career 34:43 - Pursuing a PhD and creative AI 36:09 - Developing (un)stable equilibrium 36...
On the ground inside Zero 10 with Matt Medved 05.12.2025 1:39:32
00:22 - Welcome Matt Medved 04:34 The Evolution of Media and Culture 06:36 The Birth of NFT Now and Its Mission 08:52 The Gateway: Bridging Traditional and Digital Art 10:42 The Shift to Now Media 15:32 Art Basel and the Digital Art Council 21:51 Meeting the market where it is and growing understanding 24:33 Reflections on Art Basel and Digital Art 26:46 The Future of Digital Art in Traditional...
Laurie Simmons: art, identity & experimentation in the age of AI 28.11.2025 59:54
01:42 - Welcome Laurie Simmons 04:17 - Early inspiration, New York and formative travel 07:25 - Artistic beginnings and creative identity 12:00 - Politics, rebellion and activism 14:57 - Navigating gender norms and early works 21:45 - AI and artistic evolution 27:55 - Photography and artistic identity 30:26 - Connections and collaborations 32:32 - Meeting kindred spirits in the art wor...
Refik Anadol: building the world's first museum for AI art and celebrating humanity through machine collaboration 25.11.2025 1:23:53
01:15 - Welcome Refik Anadol 02:07 - Blade Runner , media architecture and early inspirations 03:34 - Defining data painting 04:45 - The concept of data as pigment 07:44 - Fusing art and architecture 10:24 - Viral success and public art 13:49 - Collaborations and technological innovation 16:30 - Defining a medium through a holistic approach 21:27- Building the datasets and creating positive...
Tyler Hobbs: From Noise 21.11.2025 48:29
00:50 - Early days and the Art Blocks boom 03:48 - A mixed-media approach to a generative practice 05:02 - From Noise 08:50 - Exploring gestural mark-making through an algorithmic practice 10:39 - The power of messy ideas and an unrestricted output space 15:01 - Where the art lies 16:30 - The curation process behind From Noise 18:21 - Thinking about how the work exists physically 22:55 - Un...
Eli Scheinman: digital art coming to Art Basel Miami 14.11.2025 1:23:23
00:28 - Welcome (back!) Eli 01:10 – Preparing for Miami Beach 01:40 – Marfa and Las Vegas: Yuga Labs, collectors and community on the road 5:50 – The digital council: advising on the digital art ecosystem 7:08 – Leaning into digital art in a post-hype moment 7:50 – 1,000 m² space at Art Basel Miami Beach + global initiative 9:50 – Cultivating a new audience vs “just more sales” 18:20 – How Zero 10...
OSF: from a doodle to a $100 million token 07.11.2025 50:50
00:30 - Welcome OSF 01:40 - Coping with volatility and market panic 03:16 - The origins of RektGuy 06:15 - Managing impostor syndrome 09:15 - A community born in the bear market 10:55 - Pushing against societal definitions of an artist 12:56 - From PFP collection to drinks company 14:19 - The importance of branching out from NFTs 16:50 - Creating brand identity out of the art 19:20 - The...
David Shrigley: finding humour in art 31.10.2025 45:50
01:08 - Leaving art school and early success 03:15 - Staying true to your artistic voice 06:00 - Whitehawk and Nottingham Forest 07:13 - Frieze Magazine, Transmission Gallery and Err 10:46 - Tapping one's internal monologue 12:04 - The importance of comedy in art 14:15 - Shrig Shop, merchandise and exploring context 19:01 - Chocolate's Not The Problem, You Are The Problem 23:10...
Roundtable with Motzko & Lonliboy: the aesthetic experience of scrolling 28.10.2025 1:38:13
00:25 - Welcome Motzko 03:22 - Marfa recap 07:50 - Connecting and consolidating relationships 11:28 - Marfa highlights 13:50 - Fallout from the Raoul clip 19:16 - Navigating the social media landscape 26:00 - Motzko's collecting thesis 31:41 - Creating an aesthetic experience while scrolling 34:50 - Outside perspectives and judgments 36:37 - Silicon Valley's silence around NFTs ...
Redbeard: conviction, community and refining your focus 24.10.2025 52:10
00:35 - Welcome Redbeard 02:58 - Discovering digital art 05:03 - Too many sellers, not enough buyers 09:13 - Debunking the cabal 15:13 - Power laws, high prices and rising tides 18:42 - Building relationships and community 22:30 - Uplifting voices and building on history 23:17 - The importance of open-minded participation 25:55 - Being part of a movement and making an impact 29:08 - Zoom...
Hilde Lynn Helphenstein: the real Jerry Gogosian 17.10.2025 1:57:55
00:40 - Welcome Hilde Lynn Helphenstein 07:20 - Conservatism in the art world 10:02 - Early exposure to different cultures 11:54 - Conceptual Art, new genres and developing a practice 14:01 - The art world as a performance 16:54 - From Hooters to Art Basel 18:09 - The birth of Jerry Gogosian 22:24 - Problems built into the business model 24:43 - AI and the potential valuelessness of art 30...
Sasha Stiles: poetry in the age of AI 10.10.2025 1:18:35
00:42 - Welcome Sasha Stiles 04:55 - The foundations for an endless curiosity 09:50 - Connecting with Kalmyk art forms 13:40 - From academia to the arts 16:20 - New York, cultural absorption and parallel careers 19:05 - Living through pivotal technological shifts 21:52 - An ongoing cultural relationship with technology 23:20 - Nick Bostrom, Superintelligence and Attention Is All You Need 2...
Raoul Pal: from Real Vision to the new art world 04.10.2025 56:41
00:25 – Intro: Raoul Pal 01:05 – Real Vision: why it started after the GFC/Euro crisis 02:06 – Democratising finance content; early crypto coverage 03:41 – Bootstrapping video: “we knew f*** all” era (2013–14) 04:45 – Word of mouth growth; mistakes + learning media/tech 06:40 – Art + NFTs: desire to be part of a cultural movement 09:05 – Crypto Twitter as daily culture; priceless long-term record...
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