Kel & Michelle
Unrelating with Kel & Michelle
Unrelating is an all new podcast that explores relationships, why we do what we do, and what causes people to "un-relate". Join Kelly & Michelle as they talk to real people about the relationship challenges they face and provide an expert to help them sort it all out. Unrelating is hosted by show producer Kelly Beck and relationship expert Michelle Schafer. Michelle is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist who has been providing individual and couple’s therapy for two decades. Michelle has her Bachelor’s degree in Biopsychology and Cognitive Science from the University of Michigan and a...
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Kel & Michelle
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Jul 10, 2026
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Episodes
Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 39 Deep Dive: Engaging In Your Marriage The Right Way 09.01.2026 4:03
After Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 39, Michelle takes a closer look at a core theme from the show with Dr. Whetstone: the need to maintain connection with your partner. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest , email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com . Follow us on Instagram; https://www.instagram.com/unrelatingpodcast/ And download and listen to Unrelat...
Ending Your Marriage the Right Way 07.01.2026 1:02:42
Kel and Michelle sit down with Dr. Becky Whetstone to discuss her early marriage struggles and journey to becoming a therapist, tools and traits for creating a happy marriage, and how struggling couples can navigate the most difficult decision of their lives. Dr. Becky is the author of “I Think I Want Out. What To Do When One Of You Wants To End Your Marriage”. To ask us a question, suggest a topi...
RE-RELEASE People Pleasing Pitfalls 31.12.2025 1:05:15
Kel and Michelle sit down with holistic health coach Laura Folkes to discuss what "people pleasing" looks like, where it comes from, and the ways that it affects our relationships with our friends, family, and food. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest , email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com . Follow us on Instagram; https://www.instagram.com/unrelating...
Holiday Dynamics 17.12.2025 43:32
Kel and Michelle tackle common challenges and themes to help you get through the holidays. The psychology behind decorating early for the holidays, why we revert to our childhood selves around our parents, and the advantages and myths behind showing gratitude. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest , email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com . Follow us on Instagram;...
Unrelating with Kel & Michelle Episode 37 Deep Dive: Trying To Move On With Some Wisdom 05.12.2025 2:37
After the Unrelating with Kel & Michelle's episode 37 with Scott, Michelle takes a deep dive into gaining insight and personal growth after a breakup to set yourself up better for your next relationship. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest , email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com . Follow us on Instagram; https://www.instagram.com/unrelatingpodcast/ And...
Trying To Move On After A Breakup 03.12.2025 54:01
Kel and Michelle sit down with Scott to help him unpack his recent breakup from a long term relationship, discuss what went wrong, and how to pick up the pieces and move forward with his life. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest , email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com . Follow us on Instagram; https://www.instagram.com/unrelatingpodcast/ And download and listen...
Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 36 Deep Dive: Shame And Rejecting Love 21.11.2025 4:05
To recap Unrelating with Kel & Michelle Episode 35, Michelle was sparked by Melissa and Arran's episode to explore the difficulties some people have with accepting love from their partners. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest , email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com . Follow us on Instagram; https://www.instagram.com/unrelatingpodcast/ And download and l...
Shame And Marriage 19.11.2025 1:14:19
Kel and Michelle sit down with married couple Arran and Melissa for an entertaining and thought-provoking conversation about dating, emotional baggage, communication, and how shame can affect your relationships. Melissa Petro is the author of Shame On You: How To Be A Woman In The Age of Mortification. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest , email us at theunrelatingpo...
Ask Us Anything 05.11.2025 27:26
Kel and Michelle answer your questions! What's our take on the "If He Wanted, He Would" social media fad and should someone be worried about their spouses "secret single behavior". To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest , email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com . Follow us on Instagram; https://www.instagram.com/unrelatingpodcast/ And downloa...
Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 34 Deep Dive: People Pleasing In Relationships 24.10.2025 4:34
To recap Unrelating with Kel & Michelle Episode 34, Michelle expands on our discussion with Laura by talking more about how people pleasing can affect relationships and how to understand and balance needs. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest , email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com. Follow us on Instagram; https://www.instagram.com/unrelatingpodcast/ And do...
People Pleasing Pitfalls 22.10.2025 1:05:15
Kel and Michelle sit down with holistic health coach Laura Folkes to discuss what "people pleasing" looks like, where it comes from, and the ways that it affects our relationships with our friends, family, and food. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest , email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com . Follow us on Instagram; https://www.instagram.com/unrelating...
Unrelating with Kel & Michelle Episode 33 Deep Dive: Improving Your Healing Odds 10.10.2025 4:30
To recap Unrelating with Kel & Michelle Episode 33, Michelle talks about the importance of properly grieving your losses and how you can root out judgment or avoidance. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest , email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com . Follow us on Instagram; https://www.instagram.com/unrelatingpodcast/ And download and listen to Unrelating on Ap...
Improving Your Fertility Odds 08.10.2025 1:04:26
Kel and Michelle sit down with Kirsten Karchmer, author, tech pioneer and CEO of Conceivable Inc, to discuss the reasons couples may have fertility problems, what doctors miss about the emotional side of conceiving, and how fertility problems can both strain and strengthen relationships. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest , email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com...
Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 32 Deep Dive: Thank You For Being a Fact-Checker 26.09.2025 3:56
To recap Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 32 with Julia, this deep dive with Michelle explores the reasons we don't put ourselves out there and a way to challenge those fears. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest , email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com . Follow us on Instagram; https://www.instagram.com/unrelatingpodcast/ And download and listen to...
Thank You For Being A Friend 24.09.2025 1:11:05
Kel and Michelle sit down with Julia for a thoughtful and inspiring discussion on the loneliness epidemic in America, her struggles with maintaining friendships and the solutions she discovered, and how to develop and nurture friendships as you get older. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest , email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com . Follow us on Instagram; https...
Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 31 Deep Dive: Tackling Ambivalence 12.09.2025 4:57
To recap the Unrelating with Kel & Michelle Episode 31 with guest Iuri Melo, Michelle dives deeper into the Stages of Change Model to help us reflect on our readiness to change. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest , email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com. Follow us on Instagram; https://www.instagram.com/unrelatingpodcast/ And download and listen to Unrelat...
Tackling Teen Wellbeing, One Text at a Time 10.09.2025 1:03:58
Kel and Michelle sit down with Iuri Melo, founder of a text-based wellness platform called Schoolpulse, to discuss how to address students’ mental health struggles and provide positive momentum for them to thrive. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest , email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com . Follow us on Instagram; https://www.instagram.com/unrelatingpodcast/ And...
Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 30 Deep Dive: Helping Us Relate 29.08.2025 3:56
In this Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 30 deep dive with Rob, Michelle continues to explore the theme of connection and the need to tap into our sense of caring about each other, even if we can't relate. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest , email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com . Follow us on Instagram; https://www.instagram.com/unrelatingpodca...
Helping Dads Grieve 27.08.2025 1:01:03
Kel and Michelle sit down with Rob, Founder of The Sad Dads Club, for a heartfelt conversation about overcoming grief, the power of male friendships and navigating life after the loss of a child. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest , email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com . Follow us on Instagram; https://www.instagram.com/unrelatingpodcast/ And download and list...
Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 29 Deep Dive: Put A Fling On It 15.08.2025 2:56
In this Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Deep Dive on Dr. Elliot Justin, Michelle advocates for injecting some light-heartedness into your long-term relationship sexual chemistry. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest , email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com . Follow us on Instagram; https://www.instagram.com/unrelatingpodcast/ And download and listen to Unrelati...
Put A Ring On It 13.08.2025 43:26
Kel & Michelle sit down with Dr Elliot Justin, CEO and founder of Firmtech, the first sex tech company dedicated to improving men’s erectile fitness. They discuss the advantages of sex wearables and ways couples can have a healthy and vibrant sexual relationship. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest , email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com . Follow us on Insta...
Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 28 Deep Dive: Tales from a Cure-Seeker 01.08.2025 5:06
In this deep dive for Unrelating with Kel & Michelle's Episode 28 conversation with Greyson, Michelle reflects on our expectations when it comes to our mental health challenges and talks about the pitfalls of expecting a cure. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest , email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com . Follow us on Instagram; https://www.instagram.com/...
Tales From A Solo Traveler 30.07.2025 1:07:59
Kel & Michelle sit down with Greyson, a writer and digital nomad, to discuss the unique challenges of traveling the world solo, how he deals with loneliness and his mental health struggles, and the benefits of having pet companionship. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest , email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com . Follow us on Instagram; https://www.instagram....
Teaching Us A Thing Or Two 16.07.2025 53:32
Kel & Michelle sit down for an enlightening conversation with retired teacher and principal Joan to discuss the complex relationships between schools, students and parents, how to nurture a love of learning with students, and the challenges that teachers face every day. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest , email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com . Follow us o...
Ask Us Anything 02.07.2025 31:28
Kel and Michelle sit down and answer listener email questions. How do you get your partner to stop doing annoying things? What does it mean to be in a happy relationship? To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest , email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com . Follow us on Instagram; https://www.instagram.com/unrelatingpodcast/ And download and listen to Unrelating on Appl...
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