Uncertain

S5: E16 - The Board Interviews Katherine: Celebrating Five Seasons and 110 Episodes Katherine Spearing New book on Spiritual Abuse available from the founder of Tears of Eden: A Thousand Tiny Paper Cuts: The Subtle, Insidious Nature of Spiritual Abuse and Life on the Other Side - The Final Episode of Season Five (and the final episode of Uncertain) is a very special episode. The Board of Directors...

S5:E15 - What if I Get Sued? Protecting Yourself When Telling Your Story Featuring Jenai Auman Katherine Spearing New book on Spiritual Abuse available from the founder of Tears of Eden: A Thousand Tiny Paper Cuts: The Subtle, Insidious Nature of Spiritual Abuse and Life on the Other Side This is one of the most important and practical episodes you will likely ever listen to!  As more pe...

S5:E14 - A Recovering Evangelical Testimony featuring Mattie Jo Cowsert Katherine Spearing New book on Spiritual Abuse available from the founder of Tears of Eden: A Thousand Tiny Paper Cuts: The Subtle, Insidious Nature of Spiritual Abuse and Life on the Other Side Mattie Jo Cowsert was a pastor’s kid and proud purity ring wearer before she moved to New York City and experienced an unexpected wor...

S5: E13- Addressing Clergy Abuse Featuring Christa Brown Katherine Spearing New book on Spiritual Abuse available from the founder of Tears of Eden: A Thousand Tiny Paper Cuts: The Subtle, Insidious Nature of Spiritual Abuse and Life on the Other Side - Described as "the public face" of Baptist clergy sex abuse survivors, Christa Brown was one of the first to go public with substantiated child sex...

S5: E12 - How Twisted Teaching on Suffering Traps Victims in Abusive Situations Featuring Rebecca Da Katherine Spearing In this episode, we’ll discuss how the church’s common stance on suffering for Christ often gets twisted in such a way that victims feel they cannot leave abusive homes, churches, or jobs. Rebecca Davis is a trauma-informed writer, book coach, speaker, compassionate witness, pray...

S5:E11 - Escaping Christian Patriarchy with Cait West Katherine Spearing New book on Spiritual Abuse available from the founder of Tears of Eden: A Thousand Tiny Paper Cuts: The Subtle, Insidious Nature of Spiritual Abuse and Life on the Other Side Cait West is a writer and editor based in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Her work has been published in The Revealer, Religion Dispatches, Fourth Genre, and H...

S5: E10 - Signs of a Cult - with Sarah Edmonson Katherine Spearing New book on Spiritual Abuse available from the founder of Tears of Eden: A Thousand Tiny Paper Cuts: The Subtle, Insidious Nature of Spiritual Abuse and Life on the Other Side We’re talking about how one of the characteristics of a cult is that they often present as a really good thing. A lot of times, they are doing really good th...

S5:E9- The Role of Anger in Healing & Empowerment with Dr. Laura Anderson (Most Loved) Katherine Spearing New book on Spiritual Abuse available from the founder of Tears of Eden: A Thousand Tiny Paper Cuts: The Subtle, Insidious Nature of Spiritual Abuse and Life on the Other Side One of our Most Loved episodes from Season Three, exploring common misguided perspectives of anger and how befriending...

S5:E8 - Stuff Christians Say -with Ashley Love Richards and Fallon Morey Katherine Spearing New book on Spiritual Abuse available from the founder of Tears of Eden: A Thousand Tiny Paper Cuts: The Subtle, Insidious Nature of Spiritual Abuse and Life on the Other Side This episode is with Ashley Love Richards and Fallon Morey, cohosts of TSFU the Podcast Katherine and Fallon play a game with Ashley...

S5:E7 - Church Cults, Trauma, and Humor - with Shanny Payton Katherine Spearing Shannon Payton (https://shannypantsshow.com/), known as Shanny Pants by many, is a content creator and podcaster living in Rocklin, California. Although Shannon has a successful career as a Realtor, she has equally enjoyed her hobby of sharing her humor through Instagram with friends and family. In 2020 her video about...

S5:E6 - Abuse in the Church: The Role of Sex and Power - with Marie Giffith, PhD Katherine Spearing Marie Griffith, PhD , John C. Danforth Distinguished Professor in the Humanities at Washington University in St. Louis. She served for 12 years (2011-2023) as the director of the John C. Danforth Center on Religion and Politics and the editor of the Center’s journal,  Religion & Politics .&...

S5:E5 - The Stigmatized Single Person (And How to Thrive Anyway) with Katherine Spearing Katherine Spearing Brian Lee , from Through Cohort and Broken to Beloved Summit interviews Tears of Eden’s Founder Katherine Spearing about the Church’s harmful teachings on marriage that can result in very real trauma—for single and married people. Uncertain is a podcast of  Tears of Eden , a community a...

S5:E4 - Spiritual Abuse Awareness Month: Thriving After Spiritual Abuse - with Connie Baker Katherine Spearing New book on Spiritual Abuse available from the founder of Tears of Eden: A Thousand Tiny Paper Cuts: The Subtle, Insidious Nature of Spiritual Abuse and Life on the Other Side Connie Baker , LPC author of Traumatized by Religious Abuse and a therapist who works with survivors of religious...

S5:E3 - Spiritual Abuse Awareness Month: How Purity Culture Impacts Men - with Julia and Jeremiah fr Katherine Spearing New book on Spiritual Abuse available from the founder of Tears of Eden: A Thousand Tiny Paper Cuts: The Subtle, Insidious Nature of Spiritual Abuse and Life on the Other Side Julia and Jeremiah from the Sexvangelicals podcast (a podcast for providing the sex education the church...

S5:E2 - Spiritual Abuse Awareness Month: What Survivors Need from a Therapist - with Rachel Bernstei Katherine Spearing New book on Spiritual Abuse available from the founder of Tears of Eden: A Thousand Tiny Paper Cuts: The Subtle, Insidious Nature of Spiritual Abuse and Life on the Other Side Rachel Bernstein LMFT, MSEd from the IndoctriNation podcast discusses what it’s like working with surviv...

S5:E1 - Spiritual Abuse Awareness Month: You Are Not Broken - with Brian Lee Katherine Spearing New book on Spiritual Abuse available from the founder of Tears of Eden: A Thousand Tiny Paper Cuts: The Subtle, Insidious Nature of Spiritual Abuse and Life on the Other Side Brian Lee shares his personal story of experiencing spiritual abuse and what led him to start Broken to Beloved, an online summi...

S4: E24 - The F Word (On Forgiveness) Season Finale with Connie Baker Katherine Spearing New book on Spiritual Abuse available from the founder of Tears of Eden: A Thousand Tiny Paper Cuts: The Subtle, Insidious Nature of Spiritual Abuse and Life on the Other Side Forgiveness has often been used in the church to sideline and silence victims, either by perpetrators intent on controlling their victi...

S4: E23 - On the Murder of Elizabeth Mackintosh at Covenant Theological Seminary with Karl Saint Luc Katherine Spearing New book on Spiritual Abuse available from the founder of Tears of Eden: A Thousand Tiny Paper Cuts: The Subtle, Insidious Nature of Spiritual Abuse and Life on the Other Side This episode discusses the brutal murder of Elizabeth Mackintosh on the campus of Covenant Theological S...

S4: E22- Is There Really a Gay Agenda? (And Other Questions) with Bridget Eileen Rivera Katherine Spearing Bridget Eileen Rivera is a sociologist completing her Ph. D. at the City University of New York Graduate Center. Her first book,  Heavy Burdens  (Brazos Press, fall 2021) , is a  Foreward  INDIES 2022 Finalist for religion. Providing an honest account of seven ways LGBTQ p...

The Problem with Modesty Talks (And Other Concerns) with Sheila Wray Gregoire Katherine Spearing Armed with data from an all-new survey of more than 7,000 women, the authors of The Great Sex Rescue, Sheila Wray Gregoire, Rebecca Gregoire Lindenbach, and Joanna Sawatsky, reveal how experiences in church as teens affect women's self-esteem and relationships today in their new book She Deserves Bette...

The Healing Power of Art (Through Musical) with Teruyo and Lennox Katherine Spearing Two ex-cult members discuss the healing power of art through the creation of a musical. Teruyo (they/them) is a racialized queer, mentally disabled, non-binary theatre artist, anti-oppression activist and graduate student in theatre. Teruyo's encounter with cults and the aftermath of manipulative mind games has fu...

S4: E19 - Second Wave Fundamentalism with Dr. Laura Anderson Katherine Spearing Second Wave Fundamentalism is a term acknowledging that we can leave fundamentalist spaces, but they do not always leave us. How do we recognize when we are creating the same pattern—and the same spaces—we tried to leave behind? And how do we care for ourselves, and our own trauma healing, so we don’t migrate toward, a...

S4:E18 - On the Intersection of Faith, Sex, and Politics with Anna Beahm Katherine Spearing Anna Beahm is a Journalist with Reckon. News who has been covering the intersection of faith, s*x and politics since December 2020. In this episode, we discuss the complexity of covering these typically emotionally charged subjects. We also discuss how Anna’s story of growing up in conservative evangelicali...

S4: E17 - Because She Was a Girl: On the Experiences of Women in the Church with Megan Kenyon Katherine Spearing When Megan Kenyon ’s niece was born it propelled her on a journey of exploring the messages she received from the church about being a woman, culminating in an art showcase featuring the church experiences of 22 women across generations and denominations. The findings were remarkable (b...

S4:E15 - Celebrating Three Years of Uncertainty: 3rd Anniversary Episode Katherine Spearing Celebrating Three Years of Uncertainty: 3rd Anniversary Episode (On May 30th, 2023, Seasons 1 & 2 will be archived) Transcript: I’m Katherine Spearing and welcome to Uncertain, an affiliate podcast of Tears of Eden, a nonprofit supporting survivors of Spiritual Abuse, if you’d like to support this podca...