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S4:E14 - Can You Be Codependent on God? with Catherine Quiring Katherine Spearing In this episode with therapist Catherine Quiring, we discuss how teaching in the church might set us up for anxious attachment to God, and the implications of this in our recovery from religious trauma. Helpful links from Catherine:   https://www.cqcounseling.com/freebies   https://www.cqcounseling.com/cour...

S4:E13 - Singleness, Dating, and Weird Stuff Christians Say with Kristina Hart Katherine Spearing In this Episode with comedian Kristina Hart , we discuss the hilarity of learning how to date as an adult after you’ve grown up swimming in the waters of Purity Culture. Kristina is a faith-informed writer, speaker, comic, host, and popular online persona. The spirited voice behind The DTR Blog and no...

S4: E12 - Untwisting Teachings Around Loyalty, Sin Leveling, & Bitterness with Rebecca Davis Katherine Spearing In this episode with Rebecca Davis we unpack the teachings that are used in churches to make all sins equal force us to “err on the side of grace” when it comes to abuse elevate loyalty above all else and much more!   Rebecca Davis is a writer, book coach, speaker, wife, mother, gra...

S4: E11 - Invisibility in the Church that was Meant for All with Francina Kahl Katherine Spearing Francina Kahl is the founder and CEO of Be Still Tea , a tea company that encourages stillness, creating space for our stories, and connecting with others and ourselves.  In this episode we discuss: Invisibility and otherness in the church The importance of being able to sit with our own stories...

S4:E10 - An Adoptee’s Journey of Self-Discovery with Harrison Mooney Katherine Spearing Harrison Mooney’s memoir Invisible Boy isn’t just a story of the experience growing up in an abusive, fundamentalist Christian household, it’s also the story of growing up in that space as an adoptee with parents who were a different race. Harrison Mooney is an award-winning writer and journalist from Vancouver...

S4: E9 - The Ongoing, Dehumanizing Legacy of the Doctrine of Discovery with Mark Charles Katherine Spearing Mark Charles is a speaker, writer, and consultant. The son of an American woman (of Dutch heritage) and a Navajo man, Mark teaches the complexities of American history regarding race, culture, and Christendom in order to help forge a path of healing and conciliation for the nation. In 2012,...

S4:E8 - The Myths of Purity Culture with Lucy Rowett Katherine Spearing Lucy Rowett is a sex and intimacy coach for smart, passionate, and soulful women and vulva owners.  She’s a sex geek and passionately believes that your pleasure is your birthright.  In this episode we discuss the myths (lies) we were told about our bodies, sex, and sexuality through Purity Culture. Find out: · ...

S4:E7 - Trauma and Purity Culture with Lucy Rowett Katherine Spearing Lucy Rowett is a sex and intimacy coach for smart, passionate, and soulful women and vulva owners.  She’s a sex geek and passionately believes that your pleasure is your birthright.  In this episode: How purity culture impacts our view of our bodies How purity culture impacts our view of our sexuality How the trauma fr...

S4:E6 - Power and Control in Spiritual Abuse with Connie Baker (A Most Loved Episode) Katherine Spearing Today’s guest, Connie Baker , will be our Speaker at the RetreatCon and we are excited to introduce her to you. What we appreciate most about Connie is she is gifted at meeting survivors of Spiritual Abuse wherever they are at on their faith journey, whether they wish to retain connection to fa...

S4: E5 - Trauma in the Pews with Janyne McConnaughey, Ph. D Katherine Spearing New episode out today, discussing with Janyne McConnaughey, Ph. D., her book Trauma in the Pews In this episode we discuss: How trauma impacts a person’s interaction with the church and spirituality How the church often unknowingly re-traumatizes survivors The potential danger for putting knowledge about trauma in the h...

S4:E4- BITE Model and the Christian Patriarchy Movement with Cait West Katherine Spearing Yes, it’s an episode about abuse, and the cultish upbringing of the stay-at-home-daughter movement (aka Christian Patriarchy Movement), but you might find yourself laughing along with us at the absurdities of things we once believed. Grab a cup of coffee and settle in. In this episode we discuss how God and t...

S4:E3 - Encountering an Abusive Church After Growing Up in an Abusive Home Katherine Spearing Today's guests are Nikki G and Sarah Yaw . Nikki and Sarah are both colleagues in the spiritual abuse recovery realm and work as trauma recovery coaches. This is a round table discussion to highlight how someone who grew up in an abusive home might interact with the experience of encountering an abusive c...

S4:E2 - Spiritual Abuse & Parenting with Ginny Barker Katherine Spearing It’s Spiritual Abuse Awareness Month. Ginny Barker opens up about how many Christian parents have been raised to spiritually abuse their children. However, often the parents themselves are spiritually abused. Resources named in this episode: Attached to God Trauma in the Pews Tears of Eden Review Confessions of a Christian Pa...

S4:E1 Spiritual Abuse in Church of the Highlands with Liz Leiby Katherine Spearing New book on Spiritual Abuse available from the founder of Tears of Eden: A Thousand Tiny Paper Cuts: The Subtle, Insidious Nature of Spiritual Abuse and Life on the Other Side It’s Spiritual Abuse Awareness Month. This first episode of season 4 features Liz Leiby , discussing her letter An Open Letter to Church of t...

S3:E18 - The Role of Anger in Healing & Empowerment with Dr. Laura Anderson (Season Finale) Katherine Spearing Dr. Laura Anderson is the cofounder of the Religious Trauma Institute , and founder of Center for Trauma Resolution and Recovery she’s a licensed therapist, and professor of psychology. Instagram//Facebook: @drlauraeanderson Support Groups https://www.tearsofeden.org/support-groups Podcas...

S3:E17 - The Dynamics of Abuse with Polly & Bob Hamp Katherine Spearing In this episode with Polly Hamp and Bob Hamp we discuss the dynamics of abuse, the difference between being abuse informed and trauma informed, navigating when abusers are posing as advocates on social media, and narcissistic abuse. Polly and Bob Hamp are the owners and visionaries behind the Think Differently Center. They hav...

S3: E16 - When is it a Cult? with Gerette Buglion & Lisa from igotout.org Katherine Spearing Discussing the difference between a cult and a high control environment and the fine line between them. Addressing different tactics cult leaders use to control and how we reconnect with our core self after we’ve gotten out. Gerette Buglion is the co-founder of igotout.org , and is a spokesperson for the #...

S3:E15 - How to Tell Your Story with Jennifer Wainscott Katherine Spearing This is a great episode for the trauma survivor who is beginning to share their story with the world. Who do you share it with? What elements are important? And what places and spaces might not be equipped to receive the story? Jennifer Wainscott is a licensed professional counselor in St. Louis, MO. She is also the creator...

S3:E13 - Abuse in Churches with Mike Sloan (A Most Loved Episode) Katherine Spearing This is one of our Most Loved episodes from Uncertain Featuring Mike Sloan from netgrace.org Resources mentioned in this episode: tearsofeden.org netgrace.org DARVO stands for "Deny, Attack, and Reverse Victim and Offender." From Jennifer Freyd Protecting the Gift Mike’s Recommended Resources: On all forms of...

S3:E12 - Characteristics of a Toxic Faith System with Lauren Hunter Katherine Spearing Lauren Hunter is the author of the book Leaving Christian Science and is a former Christian Scientist (not to be confused with scientology). She’s also had a long relationship with the evangelical church. We discuss the 10 characteristics of a toxic faith system comparing christian science and evangelicalism. Ki...

S3: E11 - Church, Abuse of Power, and Jesus with Diane Langberg (A Most Loved Episode) Katherine Spearing New book on Spiritual Abuse available from the founder of Tears of Eden: A Thousand Tiny Paper Cuts: The Subtle, Insidious Nature of Spiritual Abuse and Life on the Other Side This is one of our Most Loved episodes. Diane Langberg  has been a huge voice in understanding abuse, abuse in ch...

S3:E10 - A Novelist Tells the Truth with Lauren McBrayer Katherine Spearing Today’s guest is author and lawyer Lauren McBrayer . In this episode, we address women in the church, the power of narrative and storytelling, exploring sexuality through writing, and the embodied and healing experience of creating art. Sermon mentioned in this episode Like a House on Fire Contact Tears of Eden tearsofeden...

S3:E9 - Was Jesus Sexually Abused? with Keanu Heydari Katherine Spearing Keanu Heydari is a doctoral candidate at the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor. He studies migration and race in Europe. He’s also interested in New Testament studies, social justice, and amplifying the voices of the marginalized in the church. TW: for this episode, as it addresses some difficult subjects, including sexual ab...

S3:E8 - The Church, Divorce, & Abusive Marriage with Natalie Hoffman Katherine Spearing This episode is a little different than our normal interview style. Guest is Natalie Hoffman from the Flying Free podcast, but throughout the episode, we’re also going to hear real stories from women who have gone through the experience of abusive marriage and divorce and who experienced the church not only as...

S3:E7 - The Jesus Way with Mark Scandrette Katherine Spearing Mark Scandrette is an internationally recognized expert in practical spiritual formation. He is the founding director of ReIMAGINE: A Center for Integral Christian Practice, where he leads an annual series of retreats, workshops and projects designed to help participants apply spiritual wisdom to everyday life. His multidisciplinary stu...