Joe Pulizzi & Robert Rose
This Old Marketing - News Podcast Weekly with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose, two of the most well-known experts in the content marketing space, talk about the latest content marketing trends and discuss how businesses can use content to attract and retain customers. Each podcast show features a discussion of content marketing headlines, rants from Joe and Robert on what's going on in the industry, and a "This Old Marketing" example from the past (that we can learn from). Always useful, entertaining and never more than 60 minutes.
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Jul 10, 2026
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Episodes
PNR 141: How Brands Could Inherit the Web 25.07.2016 1:03:36
In this week's episode, we cover two major acquisitions that are content marketing related: Yahoo! by Verizon and Dollar Shave Club by Unilever. Medium launches a content marketplace that might be a category killer, and the New York Times content studio is now a full agency (who would have guessed?). Rants and raves include stopping and how publishers love for native advertising may mean that bran...
PNR 140: Compared to Advertising, Content Marketing Still Petite 18.07.2016 59:41
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss the fascination with Pokemon Go and what content marketers should be considering. In the advertising world, content marketing still has quite a way to go, and Medium could actually be a fertile testing ground for small publishers and brands. Rants and raves include great storytelling and the Trump/Pence logo. This week's TOM example:...
PNR 139: Most Brands Failing at Customer Experience 11.07.2016 1:00:55
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, the boys discuss the likelihood of a 1984-type environment for the future of advertising. Content marketing outsourcing has been happening since forever, but Adweek identifies advertising agencies as a new source, and customer experience is a real drag at big brands. Rants and raves include how stock trading and content marketing are actually pretty similar....
PNR 138: Agencies, Brands and Media Starting to Look the Same 04.07.2016 56:46
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss how new media and content marketing are intersecting with a launch by Thrillist and some venture money given to Woven Digital by agency players. Facebook yet again tweaks their algorithm, making it almost impossible for anyone to reach anyone else without paying for it. Rants and raves include Vice, Buzzfeed and the history of content m...
PNR 137: Facebook Slowly Eats Media Companies for Lunch 27.06.2016 1:01:01
In this week's #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss how Facebook is leveraging native advertising to significantly alter the business model for publishers. This, in turn, becomes a huge opportunity for brands. In addition, FB announces that they are starting to pay media companies (and influencers) to create video on their platforms. In other news, native advertising is booming (who knew?)...
PNR 136: Get Ready for Brands to Take Over Facebook Instant Articles 20.06.2016 1:05:03
In this week's #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert talk about brands moving to Facebook's instant articles (in this case, Intel), and how FB needs to do more to help educate marketers and advertisers than their newly launched "creative hub". Podcasting gets a shot in the arm with eBay, and somewhere out there are some very happy, but very disillusioned marketers. Rants and raves include Snapchat's...
PNR 135: Will Microsoft & LinkedIn Spur a Content Buying Spree? 13.06.2016 1:01:18
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss the Microsoft purchase of LinkedIn, and how every media outlet missed the big story that Microsoft purchased a media company. In another story, we find out that most marketers are using native advertising the wrong way while Facebook reach continues to plummet. Rants and raves include the opportunity for publishers as agencies. This wee...
PNR 134: Content Marketing as Profit Center 07.06.2016 1:02:41
In this week's #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss a number of acquisitions that occurred this week, including CMI. Mary Meeker's annual Internet Trends Report is out again, and the boys discuss the highlights, while Mondelez does a Pepsi and Red Bull and begins a content marketing approach as profit center. Rants and raves include Scott Brinker and audio content. This week's TOM example:...
PNR 133: Content Marketing Now Scientifically Proven 30.05.2016 1:00:53
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, the boys talk investing in content as an asset, starting with an interesting perspective on using evergreen content over temporal content. Apple looks like they are in the market for a content producer (although probably not Disney...yet) and (drum roll please), content marketing can now be scientifically proven (mic drop). Rants and raves include the Pope a...
PNR 132: Get Ready for Content Studios to Become a "Thing" 24.05.2016 1:05:12
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss the "Chewbacca Mask" phenomenon and what it means for brands. Facebook needs to control the theft of content assets and Pepsi launches a content studio, soon to be a regular thing among brands. Rants and raves include building your personal brand and rented land. This week's TOM example: Playmobil. This week's content links: USE CODE...
PNR 131: Advertising and Content Marketing Are Different? 16.05.2016 59:57
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss how content marketing and advertising don't compete with each other and, believe it or not, are actually different (to some people's dismay). Facebook acts like a real media company, and influencer marketing is the biggest thing that no enterprise understands how to execute well. Rants and raves include bots, bots and more bots. This w...
PNR 130: Long-Form Content Actually Works on Smartphones 09.05.2016 57:47
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss UK research that states content marketing/native advertising is predicted to double by 2020. Long-form content actually does have a chance on the smartphone and influencer marketing is not without its struggles. Rants and raves include two must-read articles on the state of marketing and advertising today. This week's TOM example: McCal...
PNR 129: Red Bull Is Not in the Content Marketing Business 03.05.2016 59:55
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, the boys discuss the endof the media business as we know it, and follow up with the keys tofinding subscriber success. Native advertising terms continue toconfuse and Marriott shows us what content marketing at scale lookslike. Rants and raves include audio content trends and whythe human attention span is not eight seconds. This week'sTOM Example: The origi...
PNR 128: The Future of Television Advertising Is Native 25.04.2016 1:01:56
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Facebook looks to create its own content and yet another prediction for the death of content marketing is reviewed. SNL announces a big play in native advertising and Google says that YouTube ads are vastly superior than TV Ads. Rants include two beat downs on native advertising practices. This week's TOM example of the week: Schneider Electric's Energy Uni...
PNR 127: Is Content Marketing Actually a Thing? 18.04.2016 1:01:40
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss a contrarian article on whether or not content marketing actually exists. Could content marketing follow in the path of advertising? Publishers are now fully focused on e-commerce, and Buzzfeed's prospects dip and their future is more cloudy. Rants and raves include Disrupted by Dan Lyons and a must-read HBR article. This week's TOM e...
PNR 126: The Seduction of Rented Land 11.04.2016 1:00:50
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss major decisions from Facebook around allowing for third-party branded content. In addition, Medium offers "instaCMS" and goes into the software business. Rented land? We aren't quite sure. Prevention drops all print ads and Mashable restructures. Rants and raves include SheKnows Media and Audible offering podcasts. This week's TOM...
PNR 125: Big Brands Favoring Content, But Will It Matter? 04.04.2016 54:33
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss the latest content marketing research, where findings look to a greater importance on content marketing. The boys love the report, but doubt that many will execute the approach properly. Millennials actually prefer email and printed coupons (amazing), while more brands and publishers are creating new positions around platform. Rants a...
PNR 124: Instagram Follows Facebook to Land of Paid Social 29.03.2016 51:14
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss Instagram's move to duplicate Facebook's algorithm, making it ever clearer that Instagram will be "pay to play" for most brands. Scott Brinker releases the 2016 Marketing Technology Landscape, and to our surprise, there are almost double the amount of companies from last year. Rants and raves include a look a Disney while this week's T...
PNR 123: FTC to Brands - It's All on You 21.03.2016 55:57
In this week's episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert take a close look at honesty in content marketing. The FTC comes down hard on Lord & Taylor for untoward native advertising practices, while publishers struggle with content recommendations digging into credibility. Instagram loses the "insta" part of social content and NPR goes political with how they handle their podcast promotions. Ra...
PNR 122: Social Media Organic Content at Crisis Levels 14.03.2016 1:02:41
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Google launches a new Tumblr-style spot on search engine results, leaving an opening (and risk) for brand publishers. The NYTimes buys an agency, social media organic content now seems left for dead, and Google's digital evangelist tells us all to focus on owned audiences. Rants and raves include the most interesting man in the world and bot content. This we...
PNR 121: Machines Are Coming to Replace Your Marketing Job 07.03.2016 1:01:41
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss research on how millions of marketing jobs will slowly be replaced by machine intelligence (woo hoo!). In other news, Viacom launches a new branded content agency and Facebook's Canvas could be the next branded content hit. Rants and raves include Chick-Fil-A and LinkedIn groups. This week's TOM example: Miller Electric. This week's sto...
PNR 120: Native Advertising Hits Network Television 01.03.2016 58:39
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert review two important changes by Google - ad links in display search and AMP (accelerated mobile pages). A publisher is now in the business of selling cars and television networks are looking to native advertising as their solution to the ad crisis. Rants and raves include marketing technology and a book about algorithms. This week's TOM exampl...
PNR 119: How to Pen a Content Marketing Is Dead Article 22.02.2016 53:14
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss how unfair it is to major publishers that Facebook opened up instant articles to everyone. The BBC restructures away from television and Google drops right-side ads on the desktop. Rants and raves include Buzzfeed's email traffic and yet another "Content Marketing Is Dead" article. This week's TOM example: Altair Engineering and Concept...
PNR 118: Breaking - Brands Create More Content with Less Engagement 15.02.2016 58:52
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert report on Time buying MySpace (which actually has very little to do with myspace). Twitter announces an opt-in feed change that will most likely go "Full Facebook" in six months, while new research asserts that brands are creating more content with even less engagement. Rants and raves include the economics of native advertising and Frank Under...
PNR 117: WSJ Ditches LinkedIn, LinkedIn Ditches Bizo 09.02.2016 1:02:41
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss what you can really buy for the price of a Super Bowl advertisement. Gary V gets into the publishing business, and LinkedIn announces ditching its Bizo purchase...while the WSJ decides to drop LinkedIn from its sharing buttons. Rants and raves includes the trust advisor model and why Buffer dropped its enewsletter subscribe form. This...
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