Joe Pulizzi & Robert Rose

This Old Marketing - News Podcast Weekly with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose

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Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose, two of the most well-known experts in the content marketing space, talk about the latest content marketing trends and discuss how businesses can use content to attract and retain customers. Each podcast show features a discussion of content marketing headlines, rants from Joe and Robert on what's going on in the industry, and a "This Old Marketing" example from the past (that we can learn from). Always useful, entertaining and never more than 60 minutes.

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Joe Pulizzi & Robert Rose

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thisoldmarketing.com

Latest episode

Jul 10, 2026

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Episodes

PNR 166: Go Home Facebook, Your Journalism Project Is Drunk 16.01.2017

In this "hopeful" episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert discuss the Facebook Journalism Project, and why it's great for Facebook and not very good for the media. The boys also cover native advertising in detail this episode, with a take on the advantages and how Star Magazine was slammed by the Better Business Bureau.  Rants and raves include Big Red soda and more on agencies buying media...

PNR 165: This Is the Year Agencies Buy Media Companies 10.01.2017

In this broken pipe episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert talk about Medium's latest pivot while AOL thinks they've discovered a better way to serve up advertising.  In addition, Gary V leads the way for 2017 to be the year agencies started buying media companies. Rants and raves include Tom Brady and long-form content.  This week's TOM example: AARP. This week's story links: Renewing Medi...

PNR 164: Native Advertising - Not the Savior Publishers and Brands Thought 02.01.2017

In this first official podcast of the 2017 year, Joe and Robert discuss the ad fraud "Methbot" issue and what it means for programmatic advertising.  The boys rip to pieces a 2017 trends post, and then outline why native advertising is not the savior some experts thought it was - for both publishers and brands.  Rants and raves include the history of video games and Generation Z.  This week's TOM...

PNR 163: Google, Facebook to Purchase Content in 2017 27.12.2016

In this final episode of 2016, Joe and Robert discuss the best of 2016 and add some trends for 2017 including: Facebook and Google will ramp up their content buying efforts next year; Brands will bet big on buying media companies; As publishing continues to diversify its business model, so will marketing.  Rants and raves include George Michael and The Undoing Project from Michael Lewis.  This wee...

PNR 162: Fake News and Why It Spells Opportunity for Brands 20.12.2016

In this Christmas edition of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert discuss Facebook's new process around fake news, and why it may prove to be a rather large opportunity for content-driven brands. In other news, the boys discuss why your body of work matters, why some research is really bad and the business models behind sponsored content.  Rants and raves include David Copperfield and a new Altimete...

PNR 161: Is It Content Marketing or Sales Collateral? 13.12.2016

In this episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert dismantle a blog post that insists that content marketing does not exist. In other news, a number of content jobs will be lost to machine learning and Enterprise launches a new digital magazine that looks like sales collateral.  Rants and raves include Scott Galloway and PewDiePie.  This week's TOM: Constant Contact. This week's show links: Is...

PNR 160: The Business Case for Content Marketing as PR 06.12.2016

In this episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert discuss the result of focusing too much on Facebook for content distribution. GoPro closes down their media division and CNN hires Casey Neistat to launch a new media property. Rants and raves include Breitbart.com and the business case for leveraging content marketing as public relations. This Old Marketing example - UK National Trust. This we...

PNR 159: Could Brands Cure Traditional Media's Run to Eyeballs? 29.11.2016

In this episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert (together again) discuss Airbnb's new magazine launch with Hearst. While brand editors have a lot of red tape to work through, some people think content blindness is a real thing. And finally, media companies running to the speed of news (and eyeballs) is killing the truth in news (and maybe creating an opportunity for brands). Rants and raves...

PNR 158: What Does Fake News Mean for Content Marketing? 21.11.2016

In this very special Thanksgiving episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert are together again, first discussing the big partnership news between MXM and C3, setting the stage for a content marketing mega agency. Facebook continues to have problems with fake news, and Joe and Robert discuss what the impact will be for brands. Rants and raves include more Facebook and their big measurement issu...

PNR 157: WordPress and Medium Begin Turf War for Owned Media 14.11.2016

In this episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert discuss the IAB's latest research on advertising growth...what's right and incorrect about it. In other news, WordPress and Medium are ready to battle website turf, and blogs are getting longer and taking longer to write.  Rants and raves include live magazines and the downfall of the press. This week's TOM example: Autodesk. This week's story...

PNR 156: Deep Content Insights after Three Years of Podcasting 07.11.2016

In this special three-year anniversary (and one million download) episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert dig back into the archives and discuss what's made them successful in their careers.  Then, both discuss what they've seen work and not work in enterprises around the world when it comes to content marketing.  Rants and raves include Forbes and Yahoo!  This week's TOM example: Chief Cont...

PNR 155: Social Media Platforms Take More Victims 01.11.2016

In this week's This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert discuss Twitter's decision to kill Vine and why brands and content creators should have known better.  Agencies start to launch print magazines, while IDG's content creation model is one all brand's should emulate. Rants and raves include not starting a podcast and five ways to scare your boss into content marketing.  This week's TOM example: Think...

PNR 154: Content + Audience for the Win 25.10.2016

In this episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert discuss the AT&T/Time Warner merger and what it means for marketing professionals. Email is becoming more important than ever, and the latest APAC content marketing research is dissected. Rants and raves include a new content book and poor, poor Mashable.  This week's TOM example: Pinsent Masons. This week's article links: Top of the Show Spons...

PNR 153: Is Content Marketing Actually a Thing? 18.10.2016

In this episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert discuss whether content marketing is actually different than marketing itself, and if it is, does it work? In M&A news, Google Acquires Famebit while more and more publishers search for new media business models. Rants and raves include Donny Osmond and HP Enterprise. This week's TOM example: MassMutual's Society of Grownups. This week's articl...

PNR 152: Thought Leadership Requires Actual Leading Thoughts 10.10.2016

In this episode of Pulizzi and Rose with This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert discuss the New York Times and their new Flex Frame native advertising unit - and what markets can learn about user experience. The boys then dissect the art of thought leadership, which requires both thought and leadership, while McDonald's YouTube channel goes down, flame-broiled style. Rants and raves include the Twitte...

PNR 151: Audience, not Content, Is the Real Asset 04.10.2016

In this episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert discuss the results of CMI's 2017 content marketing benchmarks report and find that content marketing is indeed all about building audience.  Rolling Stone finds a buyer; and who really should be the agency in charge of content creation?  Rants and raves include a Robert Rose book review while Mental Floss folds print.  This week's TOM example:...

PNR 150: How to Create a Successful Podcast 26.09.2016

In this special 150th episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert spend some time talking about what makes a successful podcast, and each ponder on why PNR has lasted this wonderful 2.8 years. In other news, Facebook is public enemy number one for media companies and journalists and Salesforce considers buying Twitter.  Rants and raves include the cost of content marketing and why we do content....

PNR 149: Digital Advertising Will Survive by Limiting Inventory 19.09.2016

In this ThisOldMarketing episode, Adblock plus starts their own ad network (or do they?) and the boys discuss the future of advertising. AT&T looks to become a media company (of course) and some people think content marketing is hard to measure. Rants and raves include a lengthy talk about diversity in the event business. This week's TOM example: Walmart World. This week's show links: Adblock Is A...

PNR 148: The Business Model of More Versus Less Content 12.09.2016

In this post-show Content Marketing World (#CMWorld) edition of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert (of course) discuss the events surrounding this year's big event.  In addition, the boys discussed whether more or less content will win the day for brands, and why YouTube is changing their advertising model pronto.  Rants and raves include new contextual content research and a new content program fr...

PNR 147: 2017 Content Marketing Predictions 05.09.2016

This very special episode of #ThisOldMarketing is Joe and Robert's 2017 content marketing predictions episode.  We can't tell you what they are in this abstract, but both PNR add three very special predictions each that are sure to actually come true. Episode Sponsor: Get the 2016 Webinar Benchmarks Report from ON24 -  http://cmi.media/pnr146 This Old Marketing Example - Loot Crate http://magazine...

PNR 146: Google Lays Down Pop Over Punishment 29.08.2016

In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Google announces major changes to search engine rankings based on your pop over status.  Is there really a future in advertising (trick question) and will YouTube's new backstage give them a hall pass with the big boys? Rants and raves include a focus on numbers and marketing automation must die.  This week's TOM example: Bloomingdale's. This week's article li...

PNR 145: The Future Owners of Newspapers? Brand Marketers 23.08.2016

For this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss John Oliver's take on the broken business model of newspapers.  The boys believe that in the near future, you'll see brands actually owning these media properties.  In other news, Gartner's new "Hype" cycle is out for marketing and Google+ closes on-air hangouts.  Rants and raves include what's wrong with the buyer persona.  This week's...

PNR 144: A Content Marketing Approach Is Strategic, Actually 15.08.2016

In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss the latest TechCrunch article that claims content marketing isn't actually strategic.  Accenture looks to become one of the leading content marketing providers in the world, and Facebook blocks the ad blockers with more of the same from Facebook.  Rants and raves include Blab shutting down and personalized content.  This week's TOM examp...

PNR 143: Instagram Launches the Snapchat for Older People 08.08.2016

In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss two new social media platform launches.  Instagram launches Instagram Stories and LinkedIn launches influencer video.  Content strategy is still in a fight with content marketing, and publishers are still dependent on Facebook.  Rants and raves include the 130-hour work week and sponsored content.  This week's TOM example: The Olympics....

PNR 142: US Olympic Committee Makes Huge Social Media Faux Pas 01.08.2016

In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss Cisco Systems adding 200 content-related roles to the organization.  B-to-C brands are focusing on "micro-moments" and too many brands think they are doing content marketing when they really aren't doing content marketing.  Rants and raves include Coca-Cola and a huge social media mistake from the US Olympic Committee.  This week's TOM E...

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