Joe Pulizzi & Robert Rose
This Old Marketing - News Podcast Weekly with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose, two of the most well-known experts in the content marketing space, talk about the latest content marketing trends and discuss how businesses can use content to attract and retain customers. Each podcast show features a discussion of content marketing headlines, rants from Joe and Robert on what's going on in the industry, and a "This Old Marketing" example from the past (that we can learn from). Always useful, entertaining and never more than 60 minutes.
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Jul 10, 2026
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Episodes
PNR 116: The Guardian Gets Aggressive with Native Advertising Terms 01.02.2016 59:08
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss why publishing an article anywhere but Medium might be a good thing. PwC launches research about the state of content marketing in enterprises, and the Guardian goes "full monty" with labeling native advertising as paid content on their website. Rants and raves include the evolution of content marketing and Joe's level of exhaustion. ...
PNR 115: Stop It! Content Marketing Is NOT a Game of Traffic 26.01.2016 56:12
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss the recent exodus at Twitter and what it means for the future of the infamous unicorn. IBM buys Ustream, and the boys discuss the merits of an article that hates on content marketing. Rants and raves include "The Hot Seat", Kevin Spacey and the Fab Four. This week's TOM example: WTWH Media. This week's article links: The Revolving Door o...
PNR 114: The Coming Opportunity in (of all things) Email 18.01.2016 1:01:36
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss the idea of "peak content" and how there are two camps - one of more content and more traffic and one of the right content and the right traffic. Email, of all things, could be a big opportunity for content marketers in the future, and the boys talk about what it's going to take to land a role as chief content officer. Rants and raves...
PNR 113: How Native Advertising Will Drive the Future of Owned Media 11.01.2016 1:01:36
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss the rumors of Twitter expanding to 10,000 characters from 140, and what it means to brands. Turner's slew of television stations begin their quest for native advertising dominance, while the boys discuss the possibility of how native opportunities could fuel future owned content brands. Rants and raves include Cisco calling digital mark...
PNR 112: Ad Blocking Is 2015 Phrase of the Year 04.01.2016 1:04:43
In this first recorded episode of the 2016 year, Joe and Robert review a number of articles on the FTC, native advertising and what the future will hold for sponsored content. Ad blocking and podcasting dominate the key trends of 2015, where the boys uncover "content friction" as a key issue of 2015. Joe and Robert expand on the opportunities in podcast advertising and then rant and rave about the...
PNR 111: FTC In No-Win Situation with Native Advertising 28.12.2015 1:03:32
In this New Year's edition of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss the most recent FTC statement on native advertising and what it means to brands and publishers. Forbes announces a "light ad" site for ad blockers and ANA chooses "content marketing" as the phrase of the year. The boys cap it off with another Medium story, and why CEO Ev Williams is a master seducer. Rants and raves include...
PNR 110: Sure, Social Media Platforms Will Never Change 21.12.2015 1:01:41
In this special pre-Christmas episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss the New York Times big revenue move into native advertising, with some commentary about the WSJ as well. Content marketing predictions flood this episode, but the majority of time is spent ranting about Basecamp moving their blog over to Medium full time. Rants and raves include the trouble in TV Land and Hollywood...
PNR 109: Content Marketing Strikes Back 14.12.2015 1:03:26
In this special Star Wars themed episode, Joe and Robert discuss what will happen with Airbnb's content marketing initiative "Pineapple". Ad blocking continues to be all the rage in 2015, and the boys talk about the impact of ad blocking on business models into 2016 and beyond. And don't miss Ann Handley's take on content marketing in 2016 as well. Rants and raves include a take on the Publicis r...
PNR 108: Homeless Media's Huge Opportunity, Big Risk 07.12.2015 1:01:15
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss GE's move away from prime-time advertising and increasing move toward branded content. "Homeless" media is a huge opportunity for media companies and brands, but it comes with a big risk that most organizations are not aware of. Credit Suisse may or may not build a social network for super-rich people and John Bell has some wise words f...
PNR 107: Google Plus Returns from the Grave. Does it Matter? 30.11.2015 1:02:45
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss the very funny South Park episode all about sponsored content and native advertising. Yahoo! experiments with actually blocking ad blockers, and Google Plus gets a makeover, but it is worth it to take a second look? Rants and raves include Seth Godin and Alibaba buying a media company. This week's TOM example: The Chicken Whisperer. T...
PNR 106: Facebook Instant Articles Need Syndication, Not Advertising 23.11.2015 56:01
In this special Thanksgiving episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss the amazing new content marketing launch for Y Combinator called "The Macro". Facebook Instant Articles is (surprise, surprise) not working for the 20 publishers...Robert Rose has a solution that involves content syndication, not advertising. In addition, the boys strongly disagree with a Gerry McGovern post about qu...
PNR 105: Does Dollar Shave Club's Content Launch Have Transparency Issues? 16.11.2015 55:51
In this week's episode, Joe and Robert discuss why YouTube has a leg up on the streaming music business, and someone actually wants to kill the term native advertising. Dollar Shave Club launches a new content marketing program called MEL, and the boys fight over whether it's transparent enough. Rants and raves include NYTimes Virtual Reality project and a Wharton article. This week's TOM examp...
PNR 104: Content Creation Plummeting on Facebook 10.11.2015 1:05:56
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss the latest findings on Facebook, specifically how Facebookers are turning into lurkers and moving away from actually creating content. Ad blockers are transforming the next level of the web and one startup goes big by launching a documentary. Rants and raves include Amazon launching a physical bookstore and Activision launches a film st...
PNR 103: Consistent Content Is Key...and Most Brands Can't Do It 03.11.2015 1:02:16
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss some major plays in podcasting, from Google Play adding podcasts to Serial's deal with Pandora. PewDiePie says that the reason YouTube is launching YouTube Red is because of ad blockers (is he right?) and Mark Zuckerberg from Facebook believes that ads make Facebook better (really?). Rants and raves include IBM buying part of the Weath...
PNR 102: YouTube Proves We Have No Rights on Social Media 27.10.2015 1:02:12
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert go in-depth into YouTube's decision to "force" content creators to be part of their new paid subscription program - YouTube Red. Adobe releases some interesting research on consumer behavior and content (hint: focus on the mobile experience) and the boys dissect some interesting research on the future of digital. Rants and raves include why pu...
PNR 101: Can Content Save Advertising? 20.10.2015 1:01:09
In this episode number 101, Joe and Robert discuss whether content marketing can save advertising. Does it have to be either/or? Actually, we think not. Mitch Joel contends that it may be the end of blogging as we know it, and Pepsi's CMO thinks that digital agencies are destroying themselves. Rants and raves include some sketchy content marketing stats and a native advertisement from LexCorp....
PNR 100: 4 Content Marketing Trends for 2016 [100th Anniversary Show] 12.10.2015 1:10:04
In this special 100th anniversary edition of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert do a little "celebration time" and reflect on the past 100 episodes. The format is changed for this episode, and includes four major trends that Joe and Robert expect to see in 2016, as well as some major content marketing predictions for 2017. Discussed topics include quality vs. quantity, the rise of the content bra...
PNR 99: The Internet of the Future Will Be Ruled By Few 05.10.2015 1:02:34
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss Jay Acunzo's fantastic report on content marketing pods, possibly a better way to structure teams for content marketing. The Washington Post announces that they are going to distribute every article they have directly on Facebook, and Twitter shocks the world by getting rid of tweet counts. Rants and raves include who's going to save a...
PNR 98: Apple Is Spurring On the Next Generation of Advertising 29.09.2015 58:11
In this episode number 98, Joe and Robert continue to explore the world of ad blocking. Are Apple, Google and Facebook all in this together, or are they conspiring against each other? Could there be a world in the future with all digital ads as content? In other news, Google launches mass a Gmail retargeting program to an inbox near you. Facebook launches 360 video, while Facebook Signal goes f...
PNR 97: The Coming Crisis in #NativeAdvertising 21.09.2015 1:01:30
In this episode number 97, Joe and Robert discuss the launch of Apple's IOS9 update and what it means for publishers and brands as it pertains to advertising and content blockers. Following on that, the boys discuss the future of digital advertising, in particular native advertising, where Joe and Robert analyze a number of charts on the present situation with native. Twitter and Bloomberg partne...
PNR 96: Content Marketing Technology Investments Top $1 Billion 15.09.2015 59:25
In this post-Content Marketing World episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss how content is moving to the middle, and investments in content marketing technology top the $1 billion mark. Just 17% can follow the buyer's journey and GroupM announce a deal with Buzzfeed that may or may not be big news. On the paper front, Uber announces a new "in car" magazine, which is printed...on re...
PNR 95: CMO Survey Finds Spending on Content to Outpace Advertising 07.09.2015 1:01:09
In this pre-Content Marketing World podcast number 95, Joe and Robert talk about Newscred's $42 million dollar round and what it means for the content marketing industry. Google pushes hard on native ads inside Gmail, and what's wrong with content calendars (hint: you'll find out)? Rumors swirl around Apple launching original programming, and a CMO survey says content development tops the budget...
PNR 94: Social Media Isn't Dead, We're Just Using It Wrong 31.08.2015 57:46
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss an article about social media marketing being dead. Well, is it dead, or are most brands just using it wrong (the latter)? Podcasting is bigger and better than ever, and native advertising is NOT content marketing (let's say that together, shall we?). Rants and raves include experiences and a clear lack of strategy. This week's TOM e...
PNR 93: 2016 Will Be the Year of Content Marketing M&A 25.08.2015 59:29
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss the big $48 million dollar purchase of content agency King Content, followed by a discussion around more M&A to come in 2016. Oracle buys Maxymiser for further proof. The boys then discuss, in detail, the F&W model that all brands can learn from, and, Facebook now draws more news traffic than Google (or do they?). Raves include the Ne...
PNR 92: End of Days for Digital Display Spells Opportunity for Brands 18.08.2015 59:19
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert talk briefly about Google, or should we say, Alphabet, before moving on to a critical issue for publishers: Online Display Advertising and its demise. Then, the boys discuss the hi-jacking of the term "content marketing" and are journalists really content marketers after all. More content marketing research as well. Raves include Target and Ni...
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