Curtis Shelton and Ryan Haynie
Thinkin' on Lincoln
A political podcast that won’t make you hate your neighbor. Curtis and Ryan unpack cultural and political issues facing Oklahoma and the nation with a light-hearted air. Brought to you by The Oklahoma Council of Public Affairs.
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Curtis Shelton and Ryan Haynie
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May 12, 2026
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Episodes
David Bahnsen on the Minimum Wage 12.05.2026 31:20
Curtis and Ryan talk to David Bahnsen, Chief Investment Officer of The Bahnsen Group and bestselling author, about minimum wage and the harms proposals like SQ 832 can cause. www. SQ832KillsJobs.com https://ocpathink.org/post/independent-journalism/experts-warn-sq-832-will-drive-up-already-high-costs
Marx and Minimum Wage 15.04.2026 42:10
Ryan and Curtis talk with Save Our States Executive Director Trent England about the dangers of State Question 832, which is on the ballot June 16, 2026.
We’re back with a minimum-wage update 09.04.2026 40:57
Curtis and Ryan give an update on SQ 832 and interview Dr. James Garlow about how biblical principles can be applied to the issue of minimum wage.
Robert Aery and Hern Policy Institute 16.02.2026 40:49
Curtis and Ryan sit down with Robert Aery to talk about the launch of the Hern Policy Institute and its recent study on housing affordability.
Whiz Kidz 19.01.2026 43:03
Curtis and Ryan talk to Amy Bruce, executive director of Whiz Kidz, about her work leading a one-on-one literacy tutoring and faith-based mentoring program.
Conversation with Samantha Fulnecky 10.12.2025 35:11
Ryan and Curtis sit down with Samantha Fulnecky to unpack the moment she received a failing grade for defending biological reality in class—and what happened after she filed a religious discrimination complaint against her university.
Shutdown Showdown 13.10.2025 42:29
Curtis and Ryan are joined by Mike Palicz of Americans for Tax Reform to analyze the ongoing government shutdown: who’s to blame, what caused it, and what it will take to resolve it.
Charlie Kirk 29.09.2025 52:41
Curtis and Ryan discuss the impact of the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
Who Controls AI: Feds or States? 15.09.2025 57:19
Ryan and Curtis speak with Neil Chilson of the Abundance Institute about who should lead the regulation of AI and how aggressive those regulations should be.
Truth Rising with John Stonestreet 18.08.2025 38:35
Curtis and Ryan talk with John Stonestreet, president of the Colson Center, about a new documentary he partnered with Focus on the Family to create, titled Truth Rising . The film examines the decline of Western civilization, addresses contemporary societal issues, and underscores the hope found in Christ—encouraging you to embrace your God-given calling to be a catalyst for renewal.
Legislative Update with Curtis and Ryan 12.05.2025 41:14
Curtis and Ryan give an update on how legislative session has gone so far and how the last few weeks might shape up.
Why Work? 31.03.2025 44:20
Curtis and Ryan talk with David Bahnsen, Chief Investment Officer of The Bahnsen Group and bestselling author, about flipping the script on how we see work—and why it might just be one of life’s greatest blessings.
Kevin McDugle on Glossip v. Oklahoma 17.03.2025 49:43
Curtis and Ryan sit down with former state Representative Kevin McDugle to discuss the recent U.S. Supreme Court ruling in Glossip v. Oklahoma and his role in the case. Notes: https://www.reedsmith.com/en/news/2023/03/reed-smith-glossip-investigation-releases-new-findings-evidence-withheld
Big Picture: Checking in on D.C. 04.03.2025 49:04
This week, the guys take a step back from Oklahoma politics to explore a broader perspective on the major projects unfolding in Washington, D.C. Have a guest suggestion or feedback? Let us know at digital@ocpathink.org.
Property Tax Problems with Manish Bhatt 14.02.2025 53:54
Tax expert and Senior Policy Analyst for the Tax Foundation, Manish Bhatt, joins the guys to talk about the complications, functions, and frustrations surrounding the property tax. To read about the REINS Act, check out this article from OCPAthink.org , " Effort to reduce state regulation gets bipartisan support "
New year, same government spending problem 17.01.2025 43:43
Listen in as the guys discuss what to watch for in the upcoming legislative session and a few grassroots initiatives that you should probably keep an eye on.
What's Next? The OK Supreme Court is Hiring 22.11.2024 49:00
The guys debrief the results of the recent election cycle, including Oklahoma voters' historic decision not to retain an Oklahoma Supreme Court justice. To read the article about judicial districts Ryan mentions, click this link . For more information on OCPA's judicial scorecard, click here .
Workers' comp cases and controversies 03.10.2024 43:54
Renowned law professor and former OCPA fellow Andy Spiropoulos sits down with the guys to talk about controversial workers' comp issues and related cases that Oklahoma's highest court has mishandled. Click here to read Andy Spiropoulos' article " Once More into the Breach: The Path to Effective Workers’ Compensation Reform in Oklahoma ."
The Economic & Legal Case Against the Minimum Wage 23.09.2024 48:04
Ryan sits down with Ben Lepak to discuss a recent activist initiative to raise the minimum wage in Oklahoma and why it would be a bad move for the state.
The scores are in 09.09.2024 46:06
Ahead of the upcoming November election, Curtis and Ryan discuss OCPA’s 2024 legislative scorecard and first-ever judicial scorecard. Click here to see the 2024 Legislative Scorecard . Click here to see OCPA’s Judicial Scorecard . To learn more about the lawsuit over the University of Oklahoma’s racist scholarship practices, click here .
Talk Left, Walk Right: Interview with Dr. Brad Wilcox on how marriage can save civilization 12.06.2024 43:06
Curtis and Ryan sit down with Dr. Brad Wilcox, Future of Freedom Fellow at the Institute for Family Studies and professor at the University of Virginia, to dive into his groundbreaking research on marriage and the family. They also discuss his new book, Get Married: Why Americans Must Defy the Elites, Forge Strong Families, and Save Civilization .
Tennessee Wisdom 17.04.2024 37:44
Prof. Brian Fitzpatrick of Vanderbilt Law School talks to Ryan and Curtis about how Tennessee successfully changed its judicial nominating process—and why Oklahoma should do the same. They discuss the dangers of a bar-controlled court system and discuss what it would look like to allow the continuance of the Judicial Nominating Commission to be put to a state question. For more content on the trut...
Dr. Ben Carson stops by 03.04.2024 31:07
Curtis and special guest Dr. Ben Carson discuss life lessons, role models, and the ever-changing climate of American politics. Listen in to hear Dr. Carson's thought-provoking perspectives on the country's education system, the doom of repeating history, and the reality of the human condition. Be sure to join us April 24th for OCPA's Citizenship Award dinner featuring former U.S. Se...
Susan B. Anthony 11.03.2024 36:32
Curtis and Ryan discuss judicial reform in Oklahoma with Katie Daniel, Susan B. Anthony Pro Life America's state policy director, and unpack how Oklahoma's courts threaten the state's pro-life laws.
Tip of the Cap 11.12.2023 41:49
Curtis and Ryan talk about the new school choice tax credit and tease major legislative priorities for the upcoming session.
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