Curtis Shelton and Ryan Haynie
Thinkin' on Lincoln
A political podcast that won’t make you hate your neighbor. Curtis and Ryan unpack cultural and political issues facing Oklahoma and the nation with a light-hearted air. Brought to you by The Oklahoma Council of Public Affairs.
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Curtis Shelton and Ryan Haynie
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May 12, 2026
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Episodes
Never Ending Summer 25.07.2023 49:54
Curtis and Ryan talk about what's been happening in the legislature over the summer and what their own summer plans.
2023 Session Recap 31.05.2023 42:52
This week, Curtis and Ryan discuss the good, the bad, and the ugly of the 2023 legislative session.
Let's Go Brandon (Dutcher)! 24.04.2023 41:39
OCPA is turning 30! This week, Curtis and Ryan are joined by OCPA's Senior Vice President, Brandon Dutcher, who began his journey with OCPA as a board member before joining the staff in 1995. Brandon gives listeners the inside look behind the many struggles of a new nonprofit, the changing political climate in Oklahoma since 1993, and OCPA's victories throughout the last 30 years.
What the heck is a paideia? With special guest Pete Hegseth 10.04.2023 41:43
This week, Curtis and Ryan are joined by co-host of Fox & Friends, Pete Hegseth, to discuss his latest book, Battle for the American Mind, and answer questions surrounding education, school choice, and what the heck a paideia is. Pete is also the keynote speaker for OCPA's 2023 Citizenship Award Dinner . Click here for more information on how you can join us to hear him speak on April 26....
Legislators in Black Robes with Ben Lepak 27.03.2023 1:12:07
This week, Curtis and Ryan are joined by executive director of the State Chamber Research Foundation, Ben Lepak. The guys talk about judicial reform, including the Judicial Nominating Commission, and a recent decision regarding abortion by the Oklahoma Supreme Court.
Dead (Or Alive?) 13.03.2023 31:18
This week, Curtis and Ryan discuss bills that made it through the first session deadline, Oklahoma's recent vote on recreational marijuana, and more.
Breaking Down the Transgender Session 27.02.2023 49:13
The 2023 Oklahoma Legislative Session is in full swing, and Curtis and Ryan are here to give you the most recent update! The guys break down school choice proposals from the House and Senate, as well as other legislation making its way through each chamber. School Choice Legislation: SB 822 by Sen. Julie Daniels SB 943 by Sen. Shane Jett HB 1935 by Speaker McCall OCPA Watchlist OCPA Legislative S...
Economics in 3 Podcasts: Monetary Madness Pt. 3 with Jeff Deist 13.02.2023 46:59
This week, Curtis and Ryan close out the economics series with the president of the Mises Institute, Jeff Deist. The guys discuss inflation versus deflation, how states can insulate their economies, the Mises Institute, and more.
Economics in 3 Podcasts: Monetary Madness Pt. 2 with Dr. Per Bylund 30.01.2023 59:35
In part 2 of the Economics in 3 Podcasts series, Curtis and Ryan are joined by Dr. Per Bylund , a Senior Fellow with the Mises Institute and associate professor of entrepreneurship and Johnny D. Pope Chair and Records-Johnston Professor in the School of Entrepreneurship in the Spears School of Business at Oklahoma State University. The guys discuss Dr. Bylund's latest book, modern monetary th...
Economics in 3 Podcasts: Monetary Madness with Dr. Joseph Salerno 16.01.2023 1:00:02
Welcome to part 1 of the Economics in 3 Podcasts series! Curtis and Ryan are kicking off the series with Academic Vice President of the Ludwig von Mises Institute, Dr. Joseph T. Salerno to discuss the cause and effects of inflation, Austrian Economics, and more.
Is Rank Choice Voting a Rank Choice? 23.12.2022 54:10
This week, Curtis and Ryan are joined by the founder of Save Our States and OCPA Distinguished Fellow, Trent England. Trent discusses a new project and takes the guys on a deep dive into rank choice voting.
Bloated Bureaucracy 12.12.2022 37:00
This week, Curtis and Ryan unpack the regulatory burden on Oklahomans and our economy. Is Oklahoma an over-regulated state? If so, how do we fix it? The guys discuss all that and more on this episode of Thinkin' on Lincoln.
Race to the Bottom 07.11.2022 38:56
How is Oklahoma really doing when it comes to education? The new results are in, and it might be worse than predicted. This week, Curtis and Ryan unpack new test data from the National Assessment of Education Progress (NAEP). Find references on the data here .
Shine On, You Crazy Diamond with Grover Norquist 10.10.2022 1:03:20
This week, Curtis and Ryan are joined with founder and president of Americans for Tax Reform, Grover Norquist. The guys discuss Grover's journey to build ATR at the request of Pres. Ronald Reagan, the success of eliminating the income tax in states across the U.S., and more.
Fahrenheit 451 26.09.2022 44:29
This week, Curtis and Ryan discuss the phenomenon behind "book banning"in Oklahoma public schools.
Tech Talk with Carl Szabo 06.09.2022 47:01
This week, Curtis and Ryan are joined by the Vice President and General Counsel of NetChoice, Carl Szabo, to discuss the damaging ramifications of anti-trust legislation introduced by U.S. Sen. Amy Klobuchar.
Homeless, Not Hopeless: A conversation with Adam Luck 22.08.2022 59:38
This week, Curtis and Ryan are joined by City Care's Chief Executive Officer Adam Luck to talk about his work with Oklahoma's unsheltered. Adam discusses his journey to working with those in poverty and gives an in depth look at City Care Night Shelter, Oklahoma City's only permanent low-barrier night shelter. This episode sheds a light on the sources of homelessness and challenges...
Housing Market Fix with Tobias Peter 24.06.2022 43:38
This week, Curtis and Ryan are joined by Research Fellow and Assistant Director of the American Enterprise Institute Housing Center, Tobias Peter. The guys discuss the current housing climate, how the government can (or can't) stabilize the market, and more.
Regular Episode, Special Session 10.06.2022 22:12
In this episode, Curtis and Ryan discuss special session, tax reform, and true economic relief.
Legislative Letdowns 27.05.2022 38:51
This week, Curtis and Ryan discuss Ryan's new claim to fame, the letdowns of this legislative session, and the potential to unite both sides of the political aisle.
Closing Time 13.05.2022 43:07
On this episode of Thinkin' on Lincoln, Curtis and Ryan discuss corporate welfare, the possibility of the Supreme Court of the United States overturning Roe v. Wade , and why it is important to reform the judicial nominating process in Oklahoma.
Pension Problems and Pyromaniacs 22.04.2022 39:03
This week, Curtis and Ryan discuss Stillwater's problematic bathroom policy and some in the legislature attempting to line their own pockets. Article links: 1. OSU's Drag Queen Story Hour 2. Lawmaker makes false statements about bill 3. Stillwater board refuses to change bathroom policy 4. OCPA urges action by Hofmeister, State Board of Education on bathroom policy 5. Oklahoma's con...
Getting to Know Will Cain 08.04.2022 39:47
This week, Curtis is joined with co-host of Fox & Friends and former ESPN personality, Will Cain. The guys discuss Will's journey to television and his insight into the ever-growing hostility in news media. Cain is the featured speaker at this year's Citizenship Award Dinner. Learn more here .
A Conversation with Corey DeAngelis 25.03.2022 44:41
This week, Curtis and Ryan are joined with the national director of research at the American Federation for Children, Corey DeAngelis, to discuss school choice. DeAngelis is the 2022 recipient of OCPA's annual Citizenship Award. Learn more about the event honoring his work for families across the nation here .
Papist Priorities with Brett Farley 11.03.2022 40:11
This week, Curtis and Ryan are joined with Brett Farley, Executive Director of Catholic Conference of Oklahoma, to discuss his work at the Capitol, the Catholic Church's role in shaping politics, and more.
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