Them Before Us

Them Before Us Podcast

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Join host Jennifer Friesen, Training Director at Them Before Us, along with the TBU team, as they cover politics, current events, and policy updates affecting children's rights. Featuring top experts in politics, bioethics, law, reproductive technology, research, and culture, this podcast equips listeners to defend children's rights in debates on legislation, family, and technology. With thought-provoking discussions and expert insights, the TBU Podcast is your go-to resource for advocating a child-centric approach in today's world.

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Jul 10, 2026

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Them Before Us #058 | Do We "Only Care about Unborn Children"? | Love Life's Daniel Parks 16.10.2024

As we approach the Abundant Life Conference on October 19th, Katy Faust will join a number of pro-life speakers and organizations to promote children-first policies before and after babies are born. One of the speakers from the conference, Daniel Parks, joins us to talk about his organization Love Life and the work they're doing to support babies and mothers around the country. Check out more at h...

Them Before Us #057 | Book "Silent Sorrows" on the Ethics of IVF and more | Katherine Breckenridge 11.10.2024

Long-time fellow advocate Katherine Breckenridge joins the podcast to share about her book, "Silent Sorrows: Let's Talk About Abortion, Reproductive Technologies, and Adoption." This is a great resource about the ethical problems with IVF and other technologies, primarily from a Christian perspective. Between this and the TBU book, you'll have comprehensive secular AND Christian arguments for the...

Them Before Us #056 | "Walking In Unity" | A Resource for Christian Parents Regarding Race & Racism 04.10.2024

At Them Before Us, we want to highlight things that might be a great resource for individuals and families engaging in politics and culture. Our sphere is particularly marriage & family but The Center for Biblical Unity has many great resources for Christians considering cultural topics like LGBT ideology, racism/race/CRT/DEI and more. Krista and Monique are great friends of TBU and have also...

Them Before Us #055 | The VP Debate | Is There A Pro-Life Party? 03.10.2024

Katy, Josh & Jenn breakdown the Vice Presidential debate and the remarkable difference in tone and substance compared to the folks at the top of the ticket.

Them Before Us #054 | Embodied Childhood: Rescuing Kids from Screens with Maria Baer 27.09.2024

In this episode, journalist and Breakpoint host Maria Baer joins us to unpack one of the most urgent questions of modern parenting: Is our digital world robbing children of an embodied childhood? As a contributing author to Pro-Child Politics, Maria explores how digital tech, especially in education, is subtly but profoundly reshaping what it means to grow up. This isn’t just about screen addictio...

Them Before Us #053 | Building Cathedrals: Art That Lasts with Christian Watson 20.09.2024

In this episode, we’re joined by Christian Watson, artist, creative director, and the designer behind the Pro-Child Politics book cover, to talk about the deeper meaning of art—what it says, what it lasts for, and what it’s pointing toward. Christian shares his journey from vintage-obsessed teen to sought-after designer, and why his work is rooted in truth and beauty, not trends. He calls on Chris...

Them Before Us #052 | The Case for Pro-Child Conservation | Chris Barnard 13.09.2024

Can caring for the environment and prioritizing kids go hand in hand? In this episode, Chris Barnard, president of the American Conservation Coalition, joins Jenn to challenge the mainstream narrative around environmentalism. Instead of pitting people against nature, Chris advocates for a balanced, conservationist approach that views humans, not as the problem, but as capable stewards of creation....

Them Before Us #051 | Who Won the Presidential Debate? 11.09.2024

Founder & Director Katy Faust and Executive Director Josh Wood join Jenn to chat about what we heard in the POTUS debate between former President Trump and Vice-President Kamala Harris and any places they missed the mark both on political substance and the protection of children's rights.

Them Before Us #050 | Pro-Child Means Pro-Life | Pro-Child Politics Author Abby Johnson 06.09.2024

From a director at Planned Parenthood to one of the most effective and well-known voices for LIFE, Dr. Abby Johnson wrote our chapter on the topic in Pro-Child Politics: Why Every Cultural, Economic, and National Issue Is a Matter of Justice for Children. See more from Abby at https://abbyj.com/ https://x.com/AbbyJohnson https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwhoNHBWsizek-3cc0KlQRQ And don't forget...

Them Before Us #049 | Illegal Immigration Harms Children | Pro-Child Politics Author Lora Ries 30.08.2024

What is really happening at the southern U.S. border and is it possible to consider even something like immigration from a children's rights perspective? Our Pro-Child Politics author featured today is Lora Ries, the Director of the Border Security and Immigration Center at the Heritage Foundation. You'll finish this episode feeling much more informed at the children's rights violation...

Them Before Us #048 | The Porn Industry Hurts Kids | Pro-Child Politics Author Jon Schweppe 23.08.2024

*Disclamer: We discuss mature themes in this podcast* In this episode, Jon Schweppe from the American Principles Project joins us to shed light on his powerful chapter in Pro-Child Politics, fighting back against the porn industry. Jon exposes some big lies about pornography, the impact on minors and how we can fight back. Discover why the government has both the power and the duty to regulate thi...

Them Before Us #047 | Foreign Policy Matters for Children | Pro-Child Politics Author Dan Caldwell 16.08.2024

One of the experts who submitted a chapter for "Pro-Child Politics" joins Jenn on the Them Before Us podcast today. Dan Caldwell is a former Marine and veteran of the Iraq War and now serves as the Public Policy Advisor for the foreign policy thinktank Defense Priorities. Check out more from Dan at defensepriorities.org or on X @dandcaldwell.

Them Before Us #046 | TBU's Josh Wood & Our New Book * Pro Child Politics * 09.08.2024

In this episode, Jenn introduces the Them Before Us audience to TBU's Executive Director Josh Wood and they chat about TBU's new book, Pro-Child Politics, a compilation of authors presenting major political topics from the perspective of children's rights. Josh chats about the resource this book will be before the election and his contribution to the book, the conclusion. Pre-order you...

Them Before Us #045 | Swedish Perspective on Views of Parenting: Is the Nordic model all it's cracked up to be in the USA? 26.07.2024

While the Nordic model for healthcare and education often gets high praise in the USA, Madeleine Wallin pulls back the curtain on some surprising downsides. Discover how Swedish mothers who prefer to care for their kids at home face societal pressures in a system that prioritizes institutional care. Jenn and Madeleine chat about her experience as a mother of five in Sweden, exploring how what the...

Them Before Us #044 | Why You Don't Need to Have Credentials or A Big Following to Defend the Rights of Children 05.07.2024

Join us for an inspiring episode of the Them Before Us podcast as we sit down with Kristin Hall, a fellow advocate for children's rights who proves that passion and determination can make a difference. Kristin, who like many of us does not have formal credentials in law or advocacy, is passionate about living out her calling to champion the rights of children in her community and context. Her...

#ANDnotOR | Father's Day Edition | Why Every Child Deserves His/Her Mom AND Dad 08.05.2024

This month, join Them Before Us as we celebrate the irreplaceable roles of both mom and dad with our #ANDnotOR campaign. In this episode, Katy and Jenn introduce #ANDnotOR and celebrate the significance of a child's father You will also hear Mille's story, concieved using a sperm donor and raised by two women. You can also read her story here https://thembeforeus.com/millie-fontana/ We rec...

#ANDnotOR | Mother's Day Edition | Why Every Child Deserves His/Her Mom AND Dad 07.05.2024

This month, join Them Before Us as we celebrate the irreplaceable roles of both mom and dad with our #ANDnotOR campaign. In this episode, Katy and Jenn introduce #ANDnotOR and celebrate the significance of a child's mother. You will also hear Samantha's story, raised by her dad and his boyfriend, and her experience with mother hunger. You can read more of her story at https://thembeforeus....

Them Before Us #043 | New TBU Book Coming Soon, Christianity Today Article Response, and Q&A 03.05.2024

Katy and her nineteen co-authors submitted their manuscript for book #3, Pro-Child Politics , this week, hear the update to this resource you will want before the election this fall. Jenn and Katy also chatted about the response to her Christianity Today op-ed and answered some other questions that came in through social media.

Them Before Us #042 | Lori Kuykendall & IdentityProject.TV, a new resource on sex, gender, identity, marriage and more 26.04.2024

Lori joins Jenn to tell our TBU advocates about The Identity Project, an amazing new resource from a collaboration of organizations and experts to equip parents, pastors, youth leaders and everyone in between on some of the trickiest topics facing us today. TBU listeners get a discount! "The Identity Project is for parents, grandparents, teachers, leaders, ministers, medical professionals, an...

Them Before Us #041 | What About the "Primal Wound?" Junk Science or Meaningful for our Cause? 12.04.2024

Them Before Us staff Jenn & Patience explore Nancy Verrier's groundbreaking 1993 book, " The Primal Wound ," which has stirred debate among scholars, parents, adoptees and psychologists. They dip into the existing research about maternal separation and what we know about surrogacy, the million dollar industry separating babies from their mothers for money. Emma Water's latest...

Them Before Us #040 | Professor Brad Wilcox Talks New Book "Get Married", the Benefits of Marriage & Family on Happiness and Wellbeing 05.04.2024

In this episode you will hear from Brad Wilcox, a professor of sociology and director of the National Marriage Project at the University of Virginia. He's written a new book on the importance of marriage and why it's good for all of us. Buy Get Married: Why Americans Must Defy the Elites, Forge Strong Families, and Save Civilization Find more from Professor Wilcox: https://twitter.com/Brad...

Them Before Us #039 | Selective Reduction in IVF, Michigan Endorsing Surrogacy for Pay, and Surrogacy Baby Shower Protocol 29.03.2024

In this episode, we get a sneak peak into Katy's third book, a collaboration of experts on how every major political issue (energy, education, business) could be seen from the perspective of children's rights. Katy also gives us the rundown on her upcoming Rome trip for the Casablanca Declaration meeting. Next we take on some questions from social media: What are some of the differences in...

Them Before Us #038 | Delano Squires shares the "Four Houses" to get in order to save the Black family in America 22.03.2024

In today's episode, we get to hear from Delano Squires, a Research Fellow in the Richard and Helen DeVos Center for Life, Religion, and Family at The Heritage Foundation. His research, writing, and commentary focuses on marriage, family, and fatherhood. You can find more from Delano at: https://twitter.com/DelanoSquires https://www.heritage.org/staff/delano-squires

Them Before Us #037 | "The Boy Crisis" Author Warren Farrell On The Problems Facing Men, Boys, and Society 15.03.2024

In this episode, we hear from Dr. Warren Farrell, who wrote a book called "The Boy Crisis" and has written and spoken for many years about the challenges facing men and boys in Western Culture. Let us know what you think. https://warrenfarrell.com/ https://boycrisis.org/

Them Before Us #036 | Dating A Half Brother, Fertility Fraud, Ireland Erasing Women, & Pro-Life Hypocrisy 08.03.2024

Katy and Jenn go over some interesting news around IVF and donor conception, including a woman who learned at 39 that she dated her half brother in high school and has 22 half siblings. Ireland's redefinition of womanhood and family is also considered. https://nypost.com/2024/03/05/opinion/irelands-about-to-take-women-out-of-its-constitution/ https://wng.org/opinions/ireland-erases-women-17097...

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