Them Before Us

Them Before Us Podcast

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Join host Jennifer Friesen, Training Director at Them Before Us, along with the TBU team, as they cover politics, current events, and policy updates affecting children's rights. Featuring top experts in politics, bioethics, law, reproductive technology, research, and culture, this podcast equips listeners to defend children's rights in debates on legislation, family, and technology. With thought-provoking discussions and expert insights, the TBU Podcast is your go-to resource for advocating a child-centric approach in today's world.

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Latest episode

Jul 10, 2026

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Episodes

Them Before Us #082 | Civilization Depends on Dads: A Conversation with EksAyn Anderson 30.05.2025

Jenn sits down with EksAyn Anderson, author, speaker, and founder of the Dadfluence movement, to discuss why fathers are one of the most critical forces shaping the future of children and society. From the heartbreaking story of losing his mother at age eight to practical, research-based parenting wisdom, EksAyn challenges men to reclaim fatherhood as their primary calling and reminds us that buil...

TBU Legal Watch | The Louisiana IVF Bill That Could Gut Pro-Life Protections 30.05.2025

In this Legal Watch episode of the Them Before Us podcast, Jenn and Patience unpack a new Louisiana bill framed as “protecting IVF”, but which, in reality, dismantles key legal protections for human embryos. Patience explains how the bill, introduced by Senator Thomas Pressly, misrepresents the now-infamous “Alabama situation” to justify stripping parental rights at fertilization, limiting legal a...

Them Before Us #081 | Marriage Forces You to Grow or Quit and Why That's GOOD | #ANDnotOR 09.05.2025

(Note from Jenn: You may notice a slight echo in the first 1-2 minutes of audio but we were able to figure it out! Thanks for your patience as we ironed out the early wrinkles!) In this #ANDnotOR feature episode of the Them Before Us podcast, Jenn sits down with long-time friends and fellow children's rights advocates Cameron and Tracee Linder to talk marriage, parenting, and building a family...

Them Before Us #080 | Conceiving Miracles: Dr. Jennifer Mercier on Healing & Hope in Fertility Care 02.05.2025

In this episode of the Them Before Us podcast, Dr. Jennifer Mercier shares her inspiring journey through women's health and fertility. As the creator of Mercier Therapy, a natural method that helps women conceive, she offers a meaningful look into alternatives to IVF. Drawing from her own experience with endometriosis and infertility, Dr. Mercier opens up about the emotional and ethical concer...

Them Before Us #079 | God’s Blueprint for Womanhood: A Conversation with Carrie Abbott 25.04.2025

Boardroom or babies? Why not both? In this conversation, Jenn is joined by Carrie Abbott, speaker, author, national radio host, and the Founder and Director of The Legacy Institute, to talk about the strength and beauty of womanhood. With decades of experience as a teacher, corporate professional, and now a leading voice on faith and family, Carrie brings her unique perspective on how women can th...

Them Before Us #078 | Which Humans Are People? A Conversation with Nancy Pearcey 18.04.2025

This episode of the Them Before Us podcast features a conversation with professor and author Nancy Pearcey, exploring what it means to truly love the body and uphold the dignity of the human person. Drawing from her book "Love Thy Body", Pearcey outlines the intellectual and personal journey that shaped her convictions and dives into the cultural narratives that separate humanity from both biologi...

Them Before Us #077 | Family Fragmentation Isn’t Neutral—It’s Neglect | Adam B. Coleman 11.04.2025

In this powerful episode, author and cultural commentator Adam B. Coleman shares his deeply personal journey from childhood pain to redemptive purpose. Adam opens up about breaking generational cycles and transforming from a young man struggling with fatherlessness to being the father his son deserves. In his new book, "The Children We Left Behind: How Western Culture Rationalizes Family Sepa...

Them Before Us #076 | How Is Your State Ranked on Marriage & Family? A Conversation with Aaron Baer 28.03.2025

In this episode of the Them Before Us podcast, Jenn sits down with Aaron Baer, President of the Center for Christian Virtue, to discuss the compelling findings from The Hope and a Future Report. Together, they explore how the decline of marriage and family structure contributes to rising poverty, violence, and mental health struggles—and why strengthening the family unit may be the key to reversin...

Them Before Us #075 | Bobby Lopez: A Child’s Journey Through Divorce, Identity, and Redemption 28.03.2025

In this episode Bobby Lopez shares his deeply personal journey of growing up in a home shaped by divorce and same-sex parenting. Reflecting on the struggles of identity, family connection, and the societal shifts that redefined marriage and parenting, Bobby provides a raw and honest account of how these experiences shaped his worldview. He discusses his transition from childhood confusion to adult...

Them Before Us #074 | The Battle for your Child's Mind Starts at Home 28.03.2025

In a world where culture is discipling our kids faster than ever, how can parents reclaim their role as the primary influence in their children’s faith? Join us as we sit down with Hillary Morgan Ferrer , founder of Mama Bear Apologetics , to discuss the biggest cultural lies targeting kids today—and how parents can equip them with biblical truth. From shaping worldviews to tackling tough conversa...

Them Before Us #073 | When Fatherhood Doesn't Look Like You Expected 28.03.2025

In this episode of the Them Before Us podcast, host Jenn sits down with Mark DeGrasse, creator of Dads in Autism Land, to explore the unique challenges and triumphs of fatherhood on the autism spectrum. Mark shares raw insights into balancing the needs of his two sons—one severely autistic and nonverbal, the other neurotypical—while navigating the emotional and relational complexities that come wi...

Them Before Us #072 | Human Dignity for IVF Embryos | Laura Elm with Sacred Heart Guardians 28.02.2025

In this episode, we considered something many folks haven't thought of, offering human embryos that have died in the IVF process Christian burial. Jenn chats with Laura Elm, the Founder and Director of Sacred Heart Guardians, the Catholic charity that provides dignity to these little human lives so they aren't discarded with medical waste. Tell us what you think and learn more at: https://...

Them Before Us #071 | Marriage, Family, and the Battle for Truth – A Convo with Glenn T. Stanton 21.02.2025

What happens when culture tries to redefine marriage, gender, and family? In this episode of the Them Before Us podcast, Jenn sits down with Glenn T. Stanton, Director of Global Family Formation Studies at Focus on the Family, to discuss why marriage still matters—especially to young people—and the vital role biological parents play in a child's well-being. They dive into the cultural shifts t...

Them Before Us #070 | Mentors, Moms, and Miracles: The Church in Action 14.02.2025

What happens when a community steps up to support families in crisis? In this episode, we sit down with Christine Denova, Executive Director of Idahope Families, to discuss how this ministry is mobilizing the church to provide real, hands-on help to struggling parents and children. From crisis pregnancy support to hosting children in safe homes while parents regain stability, Idahope is proving th...

Them Before Us #069 | The Debt Crisis is a Kids’ Crisis | Pro-Child Politics | Phil Kerpen 31.01.2025

Every baby born in America today starts life $80,000 in debt. In this powerful episode, Jenn is joined by fiscal expert Phil Kerpen to talk about how reckless federal spending, runaway debt, and economic myths are setting our kids up for disaster. Kerpen, president of American Commitment and a long-time advocate for free market principles, makes the case that true pro-child politics must include f...

Them Before Us #068 | Them Before Us & Our Supreme Court Brief | The Fight to Protect Kids Online 10.01.2025

Warning: Adult Themes/Conversation Them Before Us has taken a bold stand to protect children online by submitting an amicus brief to the Supreme Court in defense of Texas' age-verification law for accessing adult content. This critical law, challenged by the "Free Speech Coalition"—an industry group defending p0rnographic interests—represents a vital step toward shielding kids from harm. TBU’s bri...

Them Before Us #067 | Woke Seattle Vendors and Our 2025 Dreams 03.01.2025

Join Founder and President Katy Faust and Training Director Jenn Friesen as they sit down for a candid conversation reflecting on an eventful and impactful 2024. From celebrating the triumph of meeting our ambitious 4th-quarter fundraising goals to unpacking the unexpected drama from woke contractors at our Seattle event, Katy and Jenn dive deep into the highs and challenges of the year. They also...

Them Before Us #066 | Author Leila Miller | Primal Loss: The Now-Adult Children of Divorce Speak 06.12.2024

In this episode, Leila sits down with Jenn to discuss her book Primal Loss: The Now-Adult Children of Divorce Speak. In it, Leila shares insights from her interviews with 70 adults who experienced divorce during their childhood, adolescence, or young adulthood. The book reveals the profound impact divorce has on individuals, no matter their age. Their conversation is both moving and insightful, of...

Them Before Us #065 | Jonathan Pageau | Retelling Fairytales for a Return to Truth & Beauty 29.11.2024

Jenn is joined by Jonathan Pageau to talk about his eight-book fairy tale series and why it's so important to reclaim these ancient stories to proclaim truth and beauty to a world in need. Fairytales aren't just for children but are an important part of shaping children's minds. What do you think? "Jonathan Pageau   is a renowned liturgical artist, writer, and public speaker. Jonathan started a pu...

Them Before Us #064 | Andrew Wood | Empowering Churches to Boldly Engage on Abortion 24.11.2024

Jenn is joined by Andrew Wood, the Senior Director of Church Engagement at Care Net, as he shares powerful insights on how churches can step up and make a meaningful impact in the pro-life movement. Learn how Christians can support unborn babies, offer hope to moms and dads, and create a culture of compassion. Don’t miss this episode filled with actionable strategies and faith-driven perspectives!...

Them Before Us #063 | Seth Drayer from Created Equal | Culture Change on Abortion 15.11.2024

Created Equal Vice President Seth Drayer joins Jenn on the Them Before Us podcast to share about the children's rights to life organization and their yearly "Justice Ride." They also consider whether or not pro-life organizations should show graphic images of the victims of abortion and other ways to shift the culture in this fight for the rights of unborn children. https://www.createdequal.org/ h...

Them Before Us #062 | Post Election Recap | What Does a Trump Presidency Mean for Children's Rights? 07.11.2024

Jenn is joined by TBU's Josh Wood and Patience Sunne to share some thoughts on the 2024 election and what's next in the battle for children's rights. What do you think?

Them Before Us #061 | Pro-Child Politics Author Delano Squires | The Lies About "Race" Hurting Kids 01.11.2024

In this powerful conversation, Delano Squires, Heritage Foundation fellow and author of the Pro-Child Politics chapter on race, joins Jenn to unpack the lies about race that are hurting children in America today. Delano exposes how media narratives, activist agendas, and race-essentialist policies twist the truth and distract us from what really matters: building strong families and safe communiti...

Them Before Us #060 | 10 Words to Heal our Broken World | Scott David Allen 31.10.2024

In this TBU episode, Jenn has a conversation with Scott David Allen, President of Disciple Nations Alliance and author of a new book, ⁠"10 Words to Heal our Broken World⁠." They focus on two of the words being redefined by culture to the detriment of children: sex and marriage. Check out this episode and Scott's book! https://disciplenations.org/introducing-ten-words-to-heal-our-broken-world-with-...

Them Before Us #059 | Your Children Belong to You, Not the Government | Tiffany Justice 18.10.2024

Katy hosts Moms for Liberty's Tiffany Justice, one of our Pro-Child Politics authors who wrote our chapter on Education. They talk about the cultural lies that teachers are the experts, that children "belong to all of us," that unions care about kids, and more. You'll feel empowered hearing about how parents are stepping up and taking on ANY institution that doesn't have their children's best inte...

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