Them Before Us Podcast

Jenn and Katy chat about the Alabama State Supreme Court's ruling on IVF and a number of other questions from social media or listeners: Will the Alabama decision change the IVF industry? How should we speak to our church friends who say they're Prolife but are in favor of IVF and disagree with the Alabama ruling? Stat we quote: 1.7 million embryos created for IVF have been thrown away, an...

Jenn interviews Lezlee, a member of the Not Parent Expected (NPE) community on her experiences growing up and coming to learn the man who raised her wasn't her biological father. Check out more from Lezlee at her website: www.iamlezlee.com and her book, If You Only Knew: Navigating DNA Surprises and the *NPE (Not-Parent Expected) World . Other resources Lezlee mentioned were: https://www.hirae...

Jenn chats with long time friend of Them Before Us, Stephanie Blessing about discovering she was conceived using a sperm "donor" (she likes to make it clear she doesn't consider it altruistic or a donation) and how it impacted her life, both in answering questions she'd always had but also in shaking up the life she thought she knew. My Daddy's Name is Donor - https://thembef...

Jenn interviews Joey Pontarelli, the Founder & CEO of Restored, a ministry to "to help teens and young adults from divorced and broken families heal and build virtue, so they can break the cycle of dysfunction and divorce." They talk about the negative impacts of divorce on their own lives and in the lives of the teens and young adults Joey ministers to and how we can rebuild a healt...

Content Caution: We talk about some stories of child abuse perpetuated by people who used surrogacy in the middle of the episode. In today's episode, Katy gives an update on Them Before Us' filming in Vancouver and Jenn digs into Katy's two latest articles, " Meet 5 Accused Pedophiles Who Bought Kids Through Surrogacy " & " I Paused My Career To Have Children And It...

Katy is back from a weekend of speaking and meetings in our nation's capital during March for Life weekend and we take on a few more questions from listeners: - What should nurses that work with labor, delivery and other professions that encounter children's rights violating technologies do? - How should the parent at home help their kids handle parent absence because of jobs like military...

In this episode, Jenn and Katy talk about the Pope's latest comments on surrogacy and whether or not surrogacy and poly-relationships are mentioned and encouraged in the Bible. Katy and Jenn finish by dissecting a YouTube video telling men not to get married: The DEVASTATING Truth of No-Fault Divorce https://time.com/6553397/pope-francis-surrogacy-ban/ https://www.npr.org/2023/12/18/1220077102...

Jenn and Katy tackle another around of questions from the audience: Is it moral to have big families with so many kids that need to be adopted? Can you talk about the ethics of third party reproduction if you haven't dealt with infertility? Is it okay for a parent to get remarried after a Biblical divorce? How should someone handle not wanting to attend the same-sex wedding of a family member...

On this episode, Jenn got to chat with researcher Emma Waters on her work regarding surrogacy and third party reproduction. "Emma is a Research Associate in the Richard and Helen DeVos Center for Life, Religion, and Family at The Heritage Foundation." Emma's latest article at World Magazine: https://wng.org/opinions/exploiting-the-vulnerable-1702897285 Cremieux Recueil's substack...

Katy and Jenn chat about the TBU stance on adoption and foster care, whether or not a single mom should pursue dating, the SNL skit about gay men trying to have a baby and more. Is Them Before Us anti-adoption/foster care? Katy's thoughts on the SNL skit about gay men "trying to have a baby." How has Big Fertility (ivf, surrogacy, etc) gotten away with not having the same standards a...

With the recent purchases of babies from prominent gay men in American culture, Katy and Jenn consider whether or not we're allowed to critique methods of conception that violate the rights of children or if all opposition to surrogacy makes a person "anti-LGBT." Check out Olivia's interview with Allie: https://open.spotify.com/episode/7JXYJnxLfLuJ1yav0OZ74d

Katie B. and Jenn talk about the latest study saying the kids raised by two men do better than everyone else's kids and why when we look at studies about same-sex parenting, we see that the decades of social science data is always true: a child does best raised by married bio mom + dad.

In this episode, Jenn and Katy follow up this week's Virtual Gala with a conversation about our 2024 projects (our upcoming documentary, a human resources package that doesn't violate a child's rights and more) and answer all the burning questions we didn't get to from the webinar and social media. Does Them Before Us have plans for Canada, Central and South America? Does divorce i...

In this episode, Jenn and Katy share their London experience at the Alliance for Responsible Citizenship, the better story for marriage & family in the future, why they believe this is a global movement, and how we can create a better marriage & family culture in our own lives.

Jenn is joined by author and professor Melissa Moschella for an in-depth conversation on natural law, how it helps humanity flourish, and serves as the basis for protecting the rights of children. For more of Professor Moschella's work, check out: https://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/author/melissa-moschella/

Jenn and Katy talk about the newly elected U.S. Speaker of the House Mike Johnson and his "covenant marriage", their upcoming London travel plans to join the Alliance for Responsible Citizenship Conference, and Melissa Kearney's new book "The Two-Parent Privilege: How Americans Stopped Getting Married and Started Falling Behind" . -------------------------------------------...

In this episode, Jenn had the honor of interviewing brilliant legal scholar, author, and speaker Professor Robert P. George. George helps us further understand the concept of "natural law" and the rights & responsibilities adults have concerning justice in a society and the rights of children. You can see more of Professor George's work at his website: https://robertpgeorge.com/.

Jenn and Katy chat about a woman who determined to use a sperm donor and become a "single mom by choice" in her 40's and about EPSN anchor and host Erin Andrews' infertility journey that culminated in using a surrogate. Unfortunately her "new way to talk about surrogacy" disregards the rights of the children.

Katie Breckenridge has been involved with Them Before Us almost since its inception in 2018 and is a writer and scholar on the topics TBU covers. In today's episode, Jenn and Katie talk about "gray divorce" and some of the effects of it on adult children. "As the phenomenon known as “gray divorce,” or divorce over the age of 50, increases ( 34.9 percent of all divorces in the U....

Jenn & Katy talk about the new book release, traveling to London, interviews with Tim Pool and Alex Clark on "The Spillover" and all the other projects in the hopper for Them Before Us.

In this series wrap, Jenn and Katy cover the final chapter of  Them Before Us, Why We Need a Global Children's Rights Movement, by discussing Chapter 10: Join the Movement, in which they cover the myriad ways you can become part of the global children's rights movement. From simple activities like  getting engaged with our social media content, signing up for, and sharing our newsletter, j...

In this episode, Jenn and Katy discuss the chapter "Adoption" from Them Before Us: Why We Need a Global Children's Rights Movement . If parents have a right to their biological mother and father, isn't TBU against adoption? The case is made that adoption is a good for society when it is properly understood and done with the rights and needs of the child in mind; Adoption treats t...

Katy and Jenn take on two trending news articles from the perspective of the rights of the child. The first story is about Dylan, the dad of at least 96 children who goes on a road trip to meet them, navigating relationships with the social parents and his own feelings of disconnection and loss. The second story is considering the ethics of desiring and having biological children. Is wanting your...

Jenn and Katy continue their discussion of each chapter in Them Before Us Why We Need a Global Children's Rights Movement . This week, they tackle the ethical questions surrounding surrogacy: is it an altruistic pursuit that helps women unable to conceive or who, for whatever reason, cannot bring a pregnancy to fruition? Or is surrogacy an ethical violation that commodifies women and children?

Jenn and Katy discuss chapter 7 of Them Before Us, Why We Need a Global Children's Rights Movement, the dark side of Donor Conception. They explore the reality of gamete "donation" to Big Fertility, and the immoral practice of purchasing sperm and eggs in an effort to customize children. Them Before Us encourages our children’s rights advocates to consider the myriad potential harms...