Sezer and Julie
The Systemic Way
The Systemic Way Podcast is a therapy and mental health podcast featuring conversations with experts, practitioners, researchers, and people with lived experience from the worlds of systemic psychotherapy, family therapy, psychology, social work, and community practice. Hosted by Sezer and Julie, two systemic and family psychotherapists, the podcast explores mental health, relationships, trauma, resilience, social justice, culture, and change. Through engaging discussions on theory, practice, and real-world experiences, listeners gain a deeper understanding of how systemic and relational appro...
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Jul 11, 2026
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Episodes
Race, Power, Privilege and the Psychology of Otherness: With Dr Dwight Turner 27.10.2024 1:17:09
In this episode with speak with Dr Dwight Turner who shares his thoughts, ideas and reflections on his two books Intersections of privilege and otherness in counselling and psychotherapy: Mockingbird (2021) and The Psychology of Supremacy: Imperium (2023). Dwight shares his personal stories around his early life, career and training as a psychotherapist weaving through themes of race, power, inter...
Race As The Highest Context Marker: In conversation with AFT's DWP Race Group 06.10.2024 1:43:04
In this episode we are joined by the Association for Family Therapy (AFT)'s Diversity Working Party (DWP) - Race Group. The group share their experiences of meeting and working together and their ongoing commitment to bring race to the forefront of our practice. The members talk about the complexity of grappling with this. Alongside this, they share the energy, passion and playfulness with w...
The Estranged Energy Cycle: Understanding Ruptured Mother-Daughter Relationships with Khara Croswaite Brindle 18.09.2024 55:16
In this episode we talk with Khara Croswaite Brindle about her book Understanding Ruptured Mother-Daughter Relationships. We hear about how therapists can prepare to address ruptured mother daughter relationships in a therapeutic space. Whether it is repairing the estrangement or preparing for it, Khara takes us through the cycle of estrangement and offers tools to manage the different stages. We...
A Tale of Three Sisters: A Movie Analysis from Critically Informed Family Therapy Perspective with Ozlem Kose PhD 01.09.2024 1:15:01
In this episode we are joined by Ozlem Kose PhD to discuss an article she co-wrote with Fatma Arıcı-Şahin & Ahmet Abakay, A Tale of Three Sisters: A Movie Analysis from Critically Informed Family Therapy Perspective . Journal of Feminist Family Therapy , 33 (4), 315-329 (Kose et al 2019). Özlem Köse , an associate with Couple and Family Therapy Montreal, holds a Ph. D. in medical family therap...
Addressing Race Based Trauma! With Dr. Jamila Holcomb 18.08.2024 1:13:18
Dr Jamila Holcomb is a marriage and family therapist and supervisior in Florida joins us to discuss racial trauma. Given the current climate and the ongoing wrestle with racism and its impact on communities and individuals this episode offers essential tools for anti racist practice. Jamila takes us through the important area of racial trauma in clinical settings. We hear her talk about defining r...
AI, Web3, The Metaverse and Intersections with Mental Health: With Marianne Le Coyte Grinney 21.07.2024 1:07:07
In this episode we speak with Marianne Le Coyte Grinney about mental health and tech. Marianne is the founder of Held Mind an organisation that offers training, support and consultation on mental health, sobriety and recovery on platforms such as web 3 and discord. She takes us through her personal and professional journey with the world of tech and the need to understand this world and why mental...
Systemic Lens Ep 3: Unpacking the Magic: A Systemic Analysis of Disney's Encanto 07.07.2024 1:19:58
In this episode of The Systemic Lens, we delve into the enchanting world of Disney's "Encanto" through the lens of systemic psychotherapy. Join us as we explore the complex dynamics of the Madrigal family, analysing how intergenerational trauma, familial roles, and cultural expectations shape their magical and emotional experiences. We examine the dual nature of the family's g...
Beyond Single Stories of Trauma to Narratives of Survival and Strength: With Nsimire Aimee Bisimwa 17.06.2024 1:21:17
Nsimire Aimee Bisimwa is a Highly Specialist Systemic & Family Psychotherapist, course lead & lecturer at Essex University & Tavistock Centre and visiting lecturer at University College London. Our home is the theme for Refugee Week in 2024. In this special episode, we are dedicating our discussion to exploring and highlighting the crucial work being done to support refugees and youn...
Critical Realism and The Philosophy of Open Systems: In Conversation with David Pocock. 09.06.2024 1:28:23
David Pocock , Systemic Family Psychotherapist, Psychoanalytic Psychotherapist, author and lecturer, joins us to discuss his influential paper, "A Philosophy of Practice for Systemic Psychotherapy: The Case for Critical Realism." (2015) In this session, we revisit the paper almost ten years after its initial publication to examine its enduring themes and its significant contribution to t...
Systemic Interventions/Psychotherapy - Two Sides of the Same Coin?: With Umberta Telfener 27.05.2024 1:11:20
In this episode we are joined by EFTA President, Umberta Telfener, as she shares with us her legacy and connection to the development of the systemic field. She talks about her relationships with some of the pioneers in Systemic Family Therapy across the globe. We hear her passionate views on combining systemic interventions and psychotherapy as we explore the integral relationship between them. U...
Collective Care, "Sumud" and Resistance: With Dr. Yoa'd Ghanadry-Hakim 06.05.2024 54:34
In today's episode we have the privilege to speak with Dr. Yoa'd Ghanadry-Hakim who is a clinical psychologist, human rights activist and supervisor and has been active in the field of mental health in Palestine for 25 years. Dr Yoa’d joins us to talk about her experiences of working in Palestine and generously shares her professional journey and the many factors that have contributed...
Gender, Sexuality and Adventures Beyond the Binary: In conversation with Amanda Middleton 21.04.2024 1:18:25
Amanda Middleton joins us to talk in depth about her keynote speech/article, Adventures in time, gender and therapeutic practice. Embracing a queer systemic way of working with gender expansive families. Amanda shares with us ways to understand gender and sexuality that are away from binary discourses and we discuss why this matters for inclusive therapeutic practice. She takes us on an adventure...
Social Constructionism - Origins, Development and Future in Systemic Practice: With Kenneth J. Gergen Ph.D 07.04.2024 1:19:10
This episode focuses on social constructionism with one of the leading figures in the field, Kenneth J. Gergen Ph. D. We hear about how radical the ideas were at the time of its conceptiopn and the people who believed in its contribution to psychology and supported its evolution. Ken tells us his personal and professional stories of the history and development of his key ideas within social constr...
Integrative Systemic Practice: A Contemporary Framework with Dr Kate Owen and Dr Leonie White 24.03.2024 1:18:21
In this episode we discuss the Queensland Institute of Family Therapy's (QIFT) meta framework for integrative practice. Founders, Kate and Leonie talk about how practitioners are embracing and integrative approach and their experience of developing the framework. Topics covered include: The main elements of the framework How integrative differs from traditional approaches in family therapy ...
Trauma, Resilience and Culture - Systemic Work with Refugee Couples and Families: Dr Shadi Shahnavaz 25.02.2024 1:22:43
This episode is about Shadi Shahnavaz’s insightful book “Working systematically with refugee families and couples: exploring trauma, resilience and culture” We discuss areas such as: -Effects of trauma -Seeking therapeutic help -Cross cultural therapy -Refugees lived experiences -Frameworks for engaging & supporting families and couples Shadi guides us through her personal and professional jou...
Becoming and Being: Harry Aponte On The Person Of The Therapist 14.02.2024 1:45:36
In this episode we speak with the much respect Dr Harry Aponte about his career, contributions and process of becoming and being a therapist. He shares with us stories oh how he became interested in systemic practice and his early days in structural systemic family therapy. We take a deep dive with Harry as he discussed the key ideas that informs his approach, the important people who have helped...
Future Directions of JFT and Why Research Matters: In Conversation with Dr Sarah Helps 11.02.2024 1:12:31
Editor of The Journal of Family Therapy (JFT), Sarah Helps joins us to discuss the history, contribution & value of JFT. Sarah shares her passion for research and its important role in the systemic field. She shows how research can support practice through developing knowledge and deepen our understanding of process. She talks us through how to get involved with the journal and debunks fear o...
An Odyssey into Second Order Competencies: With Laura Fruggeri and Francesca Balestra 14.01.2024 1:24:58
In this episode we meet Francesca Balestra and Laura Fruggeri, two of the authors of the book Psychotherapeutic competencies: Techniques, relationships, and epistemology in systemic practice (2002). We have the opportunity to hear about the importance and value of competencies through the exploration of technical, relational, epsitimolgical and social aspects of competencies. The episode covers:...
Culture, Emotions and the Relationships Between: In Conversation with Batja Mesquita 23.12.2023 1:40:45
Batja Mesquita, social psychologist, affective scientist, and pioneer of cultural psychology joins us to talk about her wonderful book Between Us: How Cultures Create Emotions (2022). In this episodes, we dive deep into the key ideas within the book and discuss the interplay with systemic ideas. Batja invites us to reconsider emotions as universal responses and takes an outside/in perspective on...
Cultivating Belonging: A Systemic Exploration of Third Culture Kid's (TCK's): In Conversation with Dr. Ruth van Reken 10.12.2023 1:41:45
In this episode, we speak with Dr. Ruth Van Reken who is the co-authour of Third Culture Kids: Growing Up Among Worlds, 3rd ed., and author of Letters Never Sent. We explore Third Culture Kids (TCKs)—which refers to people raised in cultures different from their parents’ and who spent formative years in diverse environments. We delve into the psychological, social, and relational impacts, addres...
Talking Identity and Creating Spaces for Authentic Selves: In conversation with Hendrix Hammond 19.11.2023 1:17:37
In this episode we talk with Hendrix Hammond about identity, the use of self, positioning and emotions in the therapeutic and organisational contexts. We expand on his AFT 2022 keynote speech where Hendrix shares his own journey and how this has informed him and is present in his values and ways of working in practice. Hendrix Hammond bio: Hendrix is a Consultant Couple & Family Psychotherapi...
Making Every Session Count: The Philosophy and Practice of Single Session Therapy with Katy Stephenson, Flavio Cannistra and Jeff Young 05.11.2023 1:34:29
In this episode we talk with Flavio Cannistra, Jeff Young and Katy Stephenson all about Single Session Therapy (SST). They share their professional experience and lived examples of the approach in action. We are introduced to the philosophy, key principles, benefits, challenges and ethics of SST and get an insight to how it can transform practice, systems and how services are delivered. Guests:...
"Practice Based Evidence Based Practice" - Therapy as Collaborative Learning: With Robert van Hennik 29.10.2023 1:22:24
In this episode we meet with Robert van Hennik to discuss his professional doctorate titled: P ractice Based Evidence Based Practice: Navigating Complexity in Feedback-informed Systemic Therapy . Robert brings his ideas alive by talking us through his approach in a practical way. He eloquently shares how the theory is woven into practice through collaborative work with the systems, families, inst...
Opening Doors to Stories of Home - EMOTH (Emotional Map of the Home) with Dr. Viola Sallay and Dr. Tamás Martos 08.10.2023 1:41:23
In this episode we speak with Dr. Viola Sallay and Dr. Tamás Martos about EMOTH a therapeutic tool they have created to support therapist in nurturing new ways of having conversations with families. They share the development, application and case examples allowing us to fully experience the possibilities of EMOTH. This expansive tool finds creative ways to bring home into the therapeutic space as...
Building Bridges: A Reflective Conversation from AFT Symposium #weareaft 27.08.2023 1:06:46
This episode is a reflective conversation bout the recent AFT symposium "Building Bridges" which took place in Birmingham in July 2023. We are joined by Jennifer Achan, Anokh Goodman, Sybil Qasir and Judy Sutton who share their experiences of the day from their personal and professional positions. If you were unable to make it in person then we hope this gives you a flavour of the day a...
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