The Shift 5 Podcast

In this episode, we apply the Shift 5 lens to financial health . You’ll see how inherited money rules shape today’s choices, why invitations to contract often show up right before (and after) miracles, and how to move through the five levels of creation so your finances start serving your life—not the other way around. This is a practical roadmap for aligning your money with your pure wants and bu...

In this heart-centered minisode, Chase and Carly coach through a familiar crossroads—the moment when everything you want seems to be in conflict. Through gentle questioning and guided awareness, they help a guest move from confusion to calm clarity—anchored in the body, emotion, and trust. 💡 What You’ll Hear: How to sense your body to find what you actually want Why your desires aren’t competing—...

In this rich and relatable episode, Chase and Carly dive deep into one of the most universal parts of being human— relationships . From the way we load the dishwasher to the way we handle hurt, this conversation unpacks the invisible rules and shoulds that quietly run our homes, marriages, and friendships. If you’ve ever wondered why the smallest things trigger big emotions... If you feel like you...

Sometimes the thing keeping us sick isn’t our body—it’s our fear. Fear of being wrong. Fear of trying again. Fear of what healing might actually ask of us. In this “When Shift Hits the Fan” session, Chase and Carly walk through a powerful real-time coaching moment with a woman who feels trapped in her health journey. Beneath her frustration lies something deeply human: a nervous system that’s tryi...

In this episode, Chase introduces the ARM Method —the Autoimmune Recovery Method built on breath work, cold exposure, and meditation—and explains how timing, physiology, and practice train your nervous system to heal. You’ll also learn how nutrition influences autoimmune disease, why food is more than fuel, and how to build a holistic relationship with what you eat that supports both body and spir...

Show Notes In this “When Shift Hits the Fan” minisode, we dive into one of the most common but least-talked-about triggers in family life: what happens inside of us when we get sick or our partner does—and everything suddenly feels heavier. You’ll hear a real-time coaching conversation about: 🌿 Shifting from shame to self-compassion when you’re unwell 🌀 The “loop” of Step 1 & 2 in The Shift...

 When most people think about improving their finances, they look for the how —budgeting tricks, investment strategies, or debt payoff plans. But in this episode of Tionatam , Chase and Carly reveal why the real blocks around wealth often have little to do with money at all. ✨ Inside this episode: Why finances, health, home, and relationships can’t be separated How subconscious family rules...

What do you do when your biggest dreams feel “irresponsible”? In this minisode, we dive into a raw coaching moment where fear, family expectations, and inherited “rulebooks” all push against the pull of a life that actually lights you up. This is the tug-of-war so many of us face: Do I cut my dreams down to size so they feel acceptable? Or do I expand into the very things that scare me—homesteads,...

Show Notes Welcome back to Tionatam! Today we’re unpacking the “why” behind autoimmune flare-ups through the lens of the autonomic nervous system—and how reconnection (to body, breath, and people) can change the trajectory. We’ll explore what pushes us into chronic fight-or-flight, why “adrenal fatigue” sets the stage for inflammatory cascades, and how practices like breathwork and cold exposure h...

📍 In this minisode of When Shift Hits the Fan , we step into a coaching moment where guilt shows up in a surprising place: receiving something good. What happens when your body registers guilt, not joy, in the middle of luxury or abundance? Through guided body awareness and honest reflection, we uncover how guilt often acts as a protective shield—covering deeper beliefs like “I’m responsible for...

This conversation dives into Step 5 of The Shift 5— Trim the Sails —applied to relationships. We rethink “trust” through the lens of radical self-ownership : you’re responsible for your emotions, they’re responsible for theirs. From marriages and money to parenting and daily chores (yes, even the trash), we explore how to set clean boundaries, release control, and choose unconditional love without...

In this first When Shift Hits the Fan minisode, we step into a real coaching conversation with Pam, a volunteer leader in her church who oversees the children’s program. She’s wrestling with the tension between her vision of fun and love for the kids—and another leader whose serious, rigid style seems to be draining the joy out of the experience. It’s a classic moment where expectations and “ruleb...

📝 Episode Show Notes: 📍 In this episode, Chase and Carly open up a conversation about travel, home, and the “optional” desires we often push to the side. Using real stories (like red-eye flights and dream vacations) as a springboard, they reveal how these discretionary desires are actually invitations into expansion—not indulgence. You’ll learn how to recognize when your focus has slipped into l...

📍 In this episode, Chase and Carly introduce the Shift Sifter —a simple but powerful tool to help you separate what you truly want from the “shoulds” you’ve inherited from family, culture, and programming. You’ll learn how to use words, phrases, and values that light you up as a compass for living the life you were actually meant to live. This is more than affirmations—it’s about generating real...

In this episode, we dive into what we call Invitations to Contract —the sneaky thoughts and beliefs that pull us away from healing, growth, and expansion in our health. Whether you’re facing chronic illness, supporting a loved one who is suffering, or simply pushing toward new health goals, these invitations show up everywhere along the spectrum. You’ll hear how common phrases like “What if nothin...

📍  Welcome to the first episode of The Shift 5 Podcast. In this raw and foundational episode, host  Chase Thornock  shares the real story behind The Shift 5 and Tionatam—how a life-threatening autoimmune disease, a crumbling marriage, and the realization that  no one was coming to save him cracked everything open and began the process of deep healing. If you’ve ever felt like...

📍 In this episode, Chase walks you through the full Shift 5 framework—a method designed to rewire the subconscious patterns that keep high-performing families stuck in cycles of burnout, illness, conflict, and hustle. You’ll learn how the body’s survival instinct can sabotage growth, how trauma creates default programming, and how healing starts by creating space for miracles. This is the roadmap...

📍 In this first live dojo session from inside  Tionatam , Chase and Carly go deep on a foundational Shift 5 truth: You don’t get rid of pain. You just learn to choose the pain that aligns with what you actually want. Through real stories—from resigning a CEO role due to Crohn’s disease, to receiving a home they didn’t pay for, to facing a lifelong fear of dogs—this episode invites you into t...

📍 This week in the dojo, we’re diving into relationships—the real kind. Marriage, parenting, family, friendship, self, even God. But we’re not talking communication tips and date night tricks. We’re talking about the unspoken thoughts that slowly drain your energy, tighten your chest, and make you wonder why the people you love most are the ones you fight with hardest. We call them  “invitat...

📍 This week inside the Tionatam dojo, we explore one of the most life-changing concepts in both health and relationships:  interdependence —and the  boundaries that make it possible . From childhood codependence to adult burnout, Chase and Carly unpack how nervous system regulation, healthy separation, and spiritual responsibility shape everything from autoimmune disease to marriage, pa...