The Shift 5 Podcast

Last week, we started the Unmedicated Challenge by asking one simple—but powerful—question: Where are you right now? We focused on awareness, sensing the body, and resisting the urge to rush straight into fixing or forcing change. This week, we take the next step. In this episode, we introduce Step Two of the Shift and a core concept that explains why so many well-intended changes fail: In this ep...

This minisode is a direct follow-up to the Health Challenge episode. If you haven’t listened to Ep 43 “Unmedicated Freedom: Applying the Shift 5 to Health, Awareness, and Radical Self-Ownership” yet, start there first—this conversation is meant to deepen and clarify that work. In this minisode, Chase and Carly open the floor to real voices inside the community as people process the health challeng...

This is where the rubber meets the road. In this episode, Chase and Carly move from theory into application , kicking off the first real-world Shift 5 challenge: health . You’ll learn how to take the Shift 5 framework out of the classroom and into your daily life—through tangible challenges designed to increase awareness, reclaim agency, and create real freedom. This episode introduces the Unmedic...

In this foundational episode of Tionatam , Chase Thornock shares the story that changed everything—his health, his marriage, his finances, and ultimately the creation of The Shift Five . From the outside, life looked perfect: a successful career, a young family, financial stability, and physical strength. But internally, Chase’s body was shutting down. After being diagnosed with severe Crohn’s dis...

What do you do when you’ve given everything… and it feels like nothing is coming back? In this When Shift Hits the Fan episode, we step into a raw, honest coaching conversation about money, faith, consecration, and scarcity—what happens when abundance used to feel real , but now feels completely out of reach. Our guest shares the lived experience of: Receiving resources with a deep sense of stewar...

In this episode of Tionatam , we dive into the fifth step of the Shift: Trimming the Sails —the art of making small, intentional course corrections from alignment instead of fear . Rather than changing circumstances to escape discomfort, we explore how to first feel the way we want to feel, then allow aligned action to emerge naturally. This conversation reframes decision-making around money, work...

In this episode of Tionatam , we explore how relationships quietly shift from connection into resentment—and what actually brings them back. We break down the subtle thoughts and patterns that create contempt , why they feel justified in the moment, and how they slowly erode intimacy, safety, and trust. This conversation applies to romantic partnerships, parenting, family dynamics, friendships, an...

In this When Shift Hits the Fan episode, we coach through a deeply relatable struggle: anxiety that doesn’t respond to logic , even when life is objectively safe. This conversation explores why anxiety isn’t a thinking problem—it’s a body-based experience , often rooted in inherited patterns and reinforced over time. And more importantly, how awareness and embodiment create a real pathway forward....

Legacy isn’t just what we teach our children. It’s what our bodies, nervous systems, and beliefs silently pass on—generation after generation. In this episode, we explore legacy through a biological and relational lens , uncovering how trauma, safety, regulation, and connection shape what gets carried forward—and how awareness gives us the power to change it. This is an invitation to become the cy...

In this When Shift Hits the Fan episode, we explore a deeply uncomfortable and very real relationship question: How do you love someone unconditionally without losing yourself? This conversation isn’t about labels, politics, or being “right.” It’s about agency, boundaries, nervous system regulation, and staying rooted in love —especially when preferences, values, or requests feel emotionally charg...

In this episode, we’re breaking down relationships from the ground up —the way most of us were never taught to understand them. We explore the three foundational relationship states: dependence, independence, and interdependence , and why so many relationships struggle when codependence gets mistaken for closeness, unity, or unconditional love. What We Cover in This Episode • The relationship ladd...

In this minisode, we explore one of the most common (and disorienting) experiences inside real personal growth: Why discomfort can make you question your spirituality , your connection, and even your identity — and why that’s completely normal. A community member asks a powerful question: “Growth is so uncomfortable-- is my spirituality slipping, or is this what it's supposed to feel like?” Togeth...

This episode is a little different. Instead of staying mostly in principles and paradigm shifts, we’re pulling back the curtain on the actual financial HOWs behind our lifestyle: real estate, creative financing, and negotiation — with real numbers, real deals, and real discomfort. If you’ve ever wondered, “Okay, but how are you actually doing this?” …this is the episode where we show you. Chase wa...

In this minisode, we coach a young mom through a travel desire many families relate to: Would life be better, easier, or more meaningful with a camper van? But as always, the real question isn’t about the camper van at all. It’s about want, guilt, sacrifice, and the courage to surrender the how. This conversation goes deep into the heart of lifestyle design — identifying what you actually want, na...

Welcome to Tionatam! Today’s episode was recorded in the Dallas Airport after a 5AM flight delay, a missed connection, and a whole lot of built-in opportunities to practice surrender. As always, life gives the perfect metaphors when we’re willing to see them. This week, Chase and Carly share one of their most-requested topics: How do you actually travel as a family, stay connected, keep schooling...

The holidays are usually when we’re least aware… which also makes them the best time to practice awareness. In this Tionatam episode, Chase uses the holidays as a real-life “lab” for seeing your rules , your neurology , and your triggers around food, money, and family roles. From holiday treats and autoimmune healing to last-minute road trips and unplanned expenses, we walk through how to use the...

In this minisode, we dive deep into one of the most common—and most emotionally charged—areas of family life: travel with extended family and the pressure we feel around it. This coaching session walks through how to untangle shoulds , uncover what you actually want, and discern the aligned next step without collapsing into people-pleasing or resistance. You’ll hear a live coaching moment around t...

In this episode of Tionatam , we use home and travel as a mirror for your inner world—and show how your body, house, and health are all speaking the same language. Chase and Carly unpack the “rule books” you inherited about how a home should look, feel, and function (hello, flat sheets, lighting battles, and antlers on the wall), and connect it to your body: why your circumstances don’t actually c...

In this powerful coaching minisode, we explore what it really means to surrender while staying open to creation. When we try to control how a miracle arrives, we close ourselves off from infinite possibilities. But when we release the “how,” trust our body’s signals, and take the next aligned step, life expands in ways we couldn’t have imagined. You’ll hear a real coaching moment about money, fear...

In this episode of Tionatam, we connect the dots between belief, biology, and behavior. We unpack the placebo effect (and why throwing it out of studies made us miss its power), explore the “Magnificent Matrix” for moving insights from subconscious → conscious, and show how clearly naming what you want lets you direct your body’s chemistry toward healing. Then we turn theory into practice with sim...

In this powerful minisode, we walk through a live coaching moment that reveals how anger often protects a much younger, hurting part of us. When old beliefs—like “I should always be able to help” —collide with present-day realities, they trigger deep emotional echoes from our past. Through this session, we explore how shame hides beneath anger, how childhood patterns of responsibility for others’...

In this heartfelt minisode, you’ll hear real-life stories and learn more about how surrender, peace, and support can exist even in moments. From there, we dive into health as a continuum (from illness to ever-greater capability), revisit ITCs—Invitations to Contract —and show you how to create an inner healing environment no matter what’s happening outside. You’ll learn practical ways to “feel fir...

This week inside Tionatam , we opened up the floor for live coaching around travel , money , home (and more!) and the emotional undercurrents that come with both. What started as a conversation about vacation styles turned into a masterclass in emotional awareness, relationship synergy, and surrendering the how. When we stop trying to fix circumstances—and start uncovering the emotions we’re chasi...

In this episode of Tionatam , we revisit the Shift Sifter —a simple, soul-anchored tool to separate inherited rules and autopilot “shoulds” from what you actually want . We’ll apply it to travel, home, and overall lifestyle so you can make aligned choices that feel like you (not your Pinterest feed or in-law playbook). You’ll learn how to create a personalized phrase + two adjectives that instantl...

In this When Shift Hits the Fan minisode, Chase walk a husband and father through a moment of real-life uncertainty — the kind that hits when you’re standing between who you’ve been and who you’re becoming. You’ll hear what it looks like to move from future worry into present peace , using the sensations of the body as the compass toward alignment. 💡 What You’ll Hear: The difference between think...