Margaret Robinson Rutherford PhD
The SelfWork Podcast
I'm Dr. Margaret, a psychologist for over 30 years, TEDx speaker, and the author of Perfectly Hidden Depression. I created The SelfWork Podcast in 2016 to explain mental health treatment and to give you the chance to consider therapy without thinking it's weird or that it somehow suggests you can't fix your own problems. My team is very honored that nine years later, SelfWork has earned nearly 5 million downloads! Each episode features the popular listener question as well as interviews with outstanding guests, authors, and experts, adding to the wide diversity of topics listeners so appreciat...
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Jul 10, 2026
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311 SelfWork: When Families Are Fractured: Estrangement and Parental Alienation 18.11.2022 29:17
The term “cancel culture” came to be around 2016 and according to the dictionary, it’s the practice or tendency of engaging in mass canceling as a way of expressing disapproval and exerting social pressure. Yet, in families, estrangement has been around quite a long time. Parents can distance themselves from children. Adult children can stop “coming around” as the term goes. Friendships can end. T...
310 SelfWork: Maybe It's Depression. But Maybe It's Not. 11.11.2022 29:42
We’re going to talk about labels today - and how the mental health world, its science, its leaders, and its language might be influencing us to over-pathologize what’s normal. Meaning that you can come to believe something is sick or wrong or abnormal when actually it IS normal when it’s understood in its own context. But another fact may be even more disconcerting. You can base your decisions ab...
309 SelfWork: How To Stop Emotional Eating and Breathe to Heal: A Conversation with Samantha Skelly 04.11.2022 29:28
Samantha Skelly is such a vibrant and fascinating guest! She wrote her book several years ago - Hungry for Happiness: Stop Emotional Eating and Start Loving Yourself. And this is what she says about it: This book is how I turned my mess into my message. The journey of struggling with emotional eating, exercise addition & severe body image issues - within these pages contains the most effectiv...
308 SelfWork: Five Takeaways on the Need To Be Right 28.10.2022 28:24
I began this episode thinking I’d talk about ten things I’d learned from being a therapist. But I realized that almost every one of them could be their own podcast episode. Today we’ll focus on the first – not in importance, but the first that came to mind – perhaps connected with the zeitgeist of our time. The need to be right or living being certain that you are. We’ll discuss these questions: I...
307 SelfWork: (Second Time Around) Explaining Radical Acceptance 21.10.2022 23:21
Radical acceptance is a termed that describes a way of being - acknowledging the reality of what is happening rather than fighting it emotionally and thus, causing yourself, and perhaps even others, more suffering. I very much like a Carl Rogers quote that Tara Brach, author of the 2003 best-seller, Radical Acceptance , used in her book; “The curious paradox is that when I accept myself just as I...
306 SelfWork: (Second Time Around) The What, Why, When, Where, and How of Setting Boundaries 14.10.2022 26:28
My dad used to say to us as kids, “Your rights end where someone else’s nose begins.” And that’s where I began learning about boundaries. Psychological boundaries are those that define where your own personal limits are as to what is emotionally harmful, and what is not. And that is unique to every individual. We'll ask these questions: What makes a boundary necessary to voice? Are there “unde...
305 SelfWork: Giving Voice to Depression: A Conversation with Podcast Host Terry McGuire 11.10.2022 45:12
Terry McGuire is a former broadcast journalist and voiceover talent who has earned a living with her voice for more than four decades. After experiencing her longest and darkest depression, she decided to use her experience to begin to give voice to depression through beginning the podcast - Giving Voice to Depression. There, she has collected and shared stories of her weekly guest's resilienc...
304 SelfWork: Confronting Guilt with Seven Steps to Self-Forgiveness 07.10.2022 28:37
Today we’re going to talk about guilt and self-forgiveness. Basically there are two forms of guilt. Healthy guilt – or when you feel remorse for something that you did or said or felt – and maladaptive guilt which is guilt that doesn’t serve any positive rationale, but instead eats you up from the inside. For example, survivor’s guilt, a fairly common kind of guilt, is maladaptive. I’ll also offer...
303 SelfWork: What Keeps Suicidal Thoughts Secret? And What Can We Do About It? A Conversation with Grieving Mother and Advocate Erin Gallagher 30.09.2022 52:52
I’m so delighted to bring you this interview in recognition of Suicide Awareness Month. Why? Erin Gallagher, current interim executive director of This Is My Brave, is going to tell you about the life and suicidal death of her son, Jay. His life was ended after his high school had been alerted there were warning signs – big ones – very alarming ones – and because he didn’t “seem” depressed and den...
YGTG: From The Happiness Lab: The Secret to Making Friends as an Adult 27.09.2022 12:37
Here’s a special preview of the new season of The Happiness Lab for the YGTG for this month! You might think you know what it takes to lead a happier life… more money, a better job, or Instagram-worthy vacations. You’re dead wrong. Yale professor Dr. Laurie Santos has studied the science of happiness and found that many of us do the exact opposite of what will truly make our lives better. She’ll...
302 SelfWork: Q&A! What's Trauma, Boundaries with BPD, and Being Your Own Cheerleader 23.09.2022 27:59
One of my favorite things to do on SelfWork is to respond to your questions! The first is a reaction to a recent podcast from 19 year-old podcaster Sadie Sutton who was explaining her journey with depression and her parents’ role in it. This listener wanted to know if I was following up with an interview with her parents – a great question actually. But no, that’s not the plan. But I wanted to res...
301 SelfWork: What Is Emotional Incest? 16.09.2022 30:14
What’s emotional incest? (Please be aware that you could be triggered by this episode if abuse is in your past and I’ll share links to help lines.) It’s not the same as sexual incest – but can certainly cause its own type of damage. It falls within the dynamic of enmeshment but has its own definition and characteristics. Emotional incest is defined as a parent turning to a child to meet their emot...
300 SelfWork: Do You Take the Time to Acknowledge Your Depression? 09.09.2022 24:31
We can’t believe it! 300 episodes!!! And that’s due to your loyalty and your emails and your messages and your support and your reviews and…. well, you! Thank you!!! I had a topic in mind for this three hundredth episode of SelfWork. But I realized that what was on my heart and mind was how so many of you don’t think you have the time to deal with whatever depression or anxiety you might be feel...
299 SelfWork: Can I Tell You A Secret? And Can You Keep It? 02.09.2022 30:00
I’ve had many people tell me over the years that they feel free to tell me things because they know I cannot tell anyone else. That’s true of course- unless I believe that there's imminent danger of some kind to them or someone else. But I don’t think of my role as that of secret-keeper. Instead I think of a therapist as offering safety rather than secrecy. Part of the safety is the secrecy –...
298 SelfWork: Trauma, Grief, and Post-Traumatic Growth: A Conversation with Widow Krista St-Germain 26.08.2022 40:43
On SelfWork, I love to feature people who have used their own experience – and sometimes that experiences involves loss or grief – to live through something that has taught them important lessons. And they want to share that you. Krista St-Germain is that kind of person. I’ll let her tell her story but I think you’ll be surprised at some of how she handled her response. She studied to become a lif...
297 SelfWork: What If I Never Can Trust? 19.08.2022 28:19
A listener left a voicemail for me within the past couple of weeks… in fact, two. Basically she asked, “I have trouble bonding with people and find myself not expecting too much. I’m in a good relationship now with my partner, but how do I get over this issue? Can you give tips on how to start trusting myself, others and especially my parents?” I want to stress that being able to trust is about c...
SelfWork YGTG (You Get the Gist): Need Better Sleep? A Conversation with BiOptimizers' Wade Lightheart 17.08.2022 7:55
Today on You Get the Gist, you’re going to get to hear from Wade LIghtheart Who’s Wade Lightheart? Well, he’s the cofounder of BiOptimizers, who became a new sponsor of SelfWork just last week! But he’s a three-time Canadian national all-natural body building champion, and a former Mr. Universe contestant who trained as a vegan – so he’s a guy that’s doing things differently. I think you’ll find...
296 SelfWork: Teenage Depression. It's Real. How Can You Help? A Conversation with Sadie Sutton. 12.08.2022 46:44
Today we’re going to focus on how to help your teen with depression through an interview with a great guest, 19 year-old Sadie Sutton, host of the podcast She Persisted . She was first diagnosed with depression when she was 13 and by the age of 14, had been hospitalized four times for severe depression, anxiety, and suicidality. Realizing things were going nowhere fast, her parents took her to Mc...
295 SelfWork: Lying, Suicide Notes, and Medication Fears: Opening My Emailbag 05.08.2022 28:22
I’m thrilled today to introduce you to a new sponsor of SelfWork! Not only have I used this product for over three years, but it suddenly dawned on me that I should talk to them about a collaboration! And voilá… here it is. Let me introduce you to Ozark Mountain Medicine’s fantastic CBD products ! We’re delving into my SelfWork emailbag again this week – and the questions you’ve brought me will r...
294 SelfWork: The Alarming Jungle of Mental Illness Misdiagnoses: A Conversation with Author and Activist Sarah Fay 29.07.2022 52:23
If you've listened to SelfWork, or read my book Perfectly Hidden Depression , you know that I've cautioned about doctors and clinicians' overdependence on the DSM-V ( The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition ). In this riveting conversation with the author of Pathological: The True Story of Six Misdiagnoses and activist Sarah Fay, she tells her story of...
293 SelfWork: Ten Common Birthplaces of The Shame You Never Deserved... But Carried With You 22.07.2022 27:04
Shame. People often come into therapy saying things like, “I’m afraid I’m wasting your time, “ or, “I don’t know why I can’t pull myself together, “ Or, “If I believed in my faith and God enough, I wouldn’t be here. But because I am, I’ve failed.” I know – without a doubt – I’m listening to shame talking. Today, we’re going to focus on the shame that you may carry around – that doesn’t belong to y...
SelfWork YGTG: When Too Much Self-Help Is... Too Much 20.07.2022 8:34
Today's YGTG (You Get the Gist) is focused on self-help; can you seek out too much help? The answer is yes. Self-help can actually make some people feel inferior and ashamed, rather than better about themselves - especially if you inundate yourself with it, or are almost addicted to seeking out articles and TikTok's and Instagram reels. And... podcasts. Even though I'm one of those peo...
292 SelfWork Do You Stay In Emotional Chaos? How DBT (Dialectical Behavior Therapy) Can Help 15.07.2022 27:51
Back when I was busy creating my own emotional chaos, my therapists used CBT therapy (cognitive behavioral therapy) and family systems therapy – both of which were very helpful to me. But today, we’re taking a dive into a therapy I wish had existed then ... DBT or dialectical behavior therapy. Why? Because DBT teaches distinct tools for those whose decision-making is highly governed by their int...
291 SelfWork: The Elephant In The Room: Five Tips On Caring For Someone Who Won't Help Themselves 08.07.2022 26:33
What's one of the most frequent questions I get from SelfWorkers? What do you do when you care about someone who’s depressed or destructive or anxious or ill and they don’t seem to be able to or even want to help themselves? Maybe from your perspective they’ve given up, are in denial, or are extremely defensive about how they’re living or how their struggles are impacting you, the family, the...
290 SelfWork: Relentless Courage: A Conversation with Doc Shauna Springer and Veteran Police Officer Michael Sugrue 01.07.2022 55:41
Trigger Warning: Suicide and Violence You may not know that suicide kills more first responders each year than die in the line of duty. This is one of many things that need to change. This book, Relentless Courag e, was written with this fact in mind. It's co-authored by Doc Shauna Springer and Michael Sugrue, formerly a member of an elite Air Force squad and a veteran police officer It was on...
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