Eric Jimenez & Justin McLean

The Score

An Urban Music Education Podcast hosted by Eric and Justin. They provide tips and strategies through honest discussions about their experience teaching music in an Urban setting. The goal is to provide a positive and solution-based narrative to create more effective, compassionate and culturally relevant music educators.

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Eric Jimenez & Justin McLean

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Education

Podcast website

revivalmusicproject.org

Latest episode

Jul 6, 2026

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Episodes

Ep. 71- Where Should I Teach Music? 04.04.2022

Send us Fan Mail This week's episode addresses the biggest question music educators deal with throughout their careers. Where should I teach music? A question that can cause us to respond in many different ways. Eric and Justin discuss how they have been intentional about not letting that question push toward complacency—instead of being bold enough to go and lead in places that may not get t...

Ep. 70- The Long Scars of Culturally Responsive Teaching-Jarritt Sheel-Article 14.03.2022

Send us Fan Mail  In this week's episode, Eric narrates the most recently published article by Jarritt Ahmed Sheel, Assistant Professor of Music Education- Berklee College of Music, published Fall 2021 in the Massachusetts Music Educator Journal. Jarritt has been a past guest, episode 38, "Hip Hop Music Ed'. We hope you enjoy it! Jarritt's website Connect with us on Facebook ,...

Ep. 69- The Art In Choosing A Quality Concert Program 07.03.2022

Send us Fan Mail In this week's episode, we address the thing that keeps all directors up at night, which is the UIL program. Eric and Justin discuss the good, the bad, and the ugly of picking that coveted UIL program for Concert Sightreading. To program or not to program, that is the question. The wisdom in this episode is focused on the vulnerability of knowing who you are teaching and what...

Ep. 68- We Teach Life! Music is the Icing on the Cake 28.02.2022

Send us Fan Mail In this week's episode, we address the art of life teaching. What is that, you ask? It's the method of pouring into our students' lives through our music rehearsal and classroom instruction. We get it. The sacred time of rehearsal and prep is very important. Yet Eric and Justin want to interrupt your scheduled rehearsals and sectionals to teach life principles and d...

Ep. 67- Avoiding Burnout 21.02.2022

Send us Fan Mail In this week's episode, we address the elephant in the room and what has been taking band halls by a storm which is teacher burnout. Are you tired and ready to throw in the towel? Well, listen in as Eric and Justin discuss this ever-growing phenom and how we can better ourselves and care for longevity not only as directors but most importantly as people. Enjoy and share!!! In...

Ep. 66- TMEA 2022- Latino/a/x Representation in Music Education 14.02.2022

Send us Fan Mail In this week's episode, we share a recording of our session at TMEA 2022. Eric had the opportunity to facilitate a conversation amongst three outstanding panelists. Each brought a wealth of knowledge to the table regarding their personal experience as products of public school music education and how they each take on the task to include their Latino/a/x/ students into their...

Ep. 65- Article: Dispelling The Myths of Teaching In a Title I School 07.02.2022

Send us Fan Mail Today's episode is a reading of our article published in the September 2020 issue of TMEA- Texas Music Educator's Association Magazine- Southwestern Musician. PDF of Article Connect with us on Facebook , Twitter & Instagram : @podthescore; podthescore@gmail.com ; The Score Podcast Website Support The Score on Patreon or Paypal Music Credits: Intro: Justin McLean @jus...

Ep. 64- Debunking Stereotypes in Mexican Themed Music- Interview: Dr. Sixto Montesinos 24.01.2022

Send us Fan Mail In this week's episode, Eric and Justin talk with our special guest Dr. Sixto Montesanos. Dr. Montesinos is an Assistant Professor and Head of Instrumental Studies at Saint Mary’s College of California and wastes no time debunking stereotypes in Mexican-themed music. This week's conversation leads deeper into getting to the nuisance that makes music so innovative and how...

Ep. 63- Welcome Back: Season 3- Year In Review 10.01.2022

Send us Fan Mail Welcome back everyone it’s been a while since  we have given content but we are back and better than ever. In this week's episode, Eric and Justin talk about this past season and what’s been happening in our lives as we enter this new year. There are quite few big updates that you don’t want to miss. We will also be discussing some places where you can catch us live as well!!...

Ep. 62- New Kids On The Block: Tips for Your New Music Teacher Job 09.08.2021

Send us Fan Mail In this week's episode, Eric and Justin talk about some tips that will make this upcoming year manageable and effective. These tips may not necessarily revolve around a score or drill chart but they will help with efficiency, community, culture, and overall program vision. Eric will deep dive and unpack some simple but very major items that will cause change and growth in you...

Ep. 61- Take The Charge: Our Role In Our Student's Musical Journey 12.07.2021

Send us Fan Mail In this week's episode, Eric and Justin talk about the major role we as music educators take in our students' journey in music. They both unpack what it truly means to be in the work of cultivating the next generation of educators in the field of music. Eric will also drop a major life change that has been fueled by the desire to help create the environment and culture t...

Ep. 60- Who Am I and Why Am I Here? Interview: Jose Longoria 28.06.2021

Send us Fan Mail  In this week's episode, Eric and Justin had the great pleasure of talking to Mr. Jose Longoria the Mariachi Director at Patrick Henry Middle School, Sam Houston H.S, and the University of Houston. Mr. Longoria wastes no time getting to his humble beginnings and how he has created a culture of mariachi music education. A culture that has been supported by the administration a...

Ep. 59- On The List- Interview: Dr. Brandon Houghtalen 07.06.2021

Send us Fan Mail In this week's episode, Eric and Justin had the great pleasure of talking to Dr. Brandon Houghtalen Associate Director of Bands at Abilene Christian University.  Dr. Houghtalen gets right to it by discusses the list. The list that hasn’t been further developed to properly show the wide world of musical possibilities. We delve into what it means to add, diversify and augment t...

Ep. 58- Put First Things First- Interview: Mallik Newman 24.05.2021

Send us Fan Mail In this week's episode, Eric and Justin had the great pleasure of talking to Mr. Mallik Newman the director of Bands and Orchestra at the historic Booker T Washington High School. Mr Newman shines the light on what it takes to build and create even though it may be unorthodox. Mr. Newman also lays out the format for building a environment that foster student care by putting f...

Ep. 57- Tips to Land Your Next Music Teacher Job 26.04.2021

Send us Fan Mail In this week's episode, Eric and Justin deal with what’s coming up for a lot of music educators. The infamous job search and interview process. Both hosts give their unique backstories of how their respective first hires went and what they did to prepare for those jobs. The information in this episode is great for music educators just graduating or seasoned vets that are look...

Ep. 56- Not Your Typical Choir Director- Interview: Phil O'Neal 12.04.2021

Send us Fan Mail In this week's episode, Eric and Justin had the great pleasure of talking to Mr. Phil O’Neal, the choral director at Woodcreek Middle School in Humble ISD and Leader of Contemporary Worship at the Atascocita United Methodist Church. Mr. O’Neal wastes no time in this week's episode discussing his life’s journey as a musician and how it has impacted his career. The unortho...

Ep. 55- Keepin' It Real- Interview: Delton Brown 29.03.2021

Send us Fan Mail In this week's episode, Eric and Justin had the great pleasure of talking to Mr. Delton Brown, the Director of Bands at Desoto High School. Delton waste no time getting to the very title of this episode. He keeps it real from his beginnings as a band student and the experiences that helped shaped his future. We delve into how all those things help him create a real experience...

Ep. 54- A Case for Humanity- Interview: Bolaji Isiba 15.03.2021

Send us Fan Mail In this week's episode, Eric and Justin bring back a familiar voice and close friend on this weeks episode. Mr. Bolaji Isiba, who serves as the Director Bands at Lake Olympia Middle School in Fort Bend ISD, stops by to discuss and layout the foundation of what it means to be human for your students. Authenticity, vulnerability, transparency are usually words associated with w...

Ep. 53- Anti-Racist Teaching- Interview: Alice Tsui 01.03.2021

Send us Fan Mail In this week's episode, Eric and Justin have the pleasure of talking with Alice Tsui, the Founding Music Educator at PS 532 New Bridges Elementary in Brooklyn, NY, and DMA Candidate (ABD) in Music Education at Boston University. This episode was full of quality information on how to be a teacher that builds an environment that is connecting and inviting. Especially in a time...

Ep. 52- Music Ed Gatekeeping: Knockin' Doors Down 22.02.2021

Send us Fan Mail In this week's episode, Eric and Justin talk about the gates and walls put up to keep and push our students away from the great opportunity of music ed. Eric and Justin review a post/clinic from this past TMEA convention and what it sparked in the minds of music educators across all streams. What does it really mean to knock down doors and liberate students with including and...

Ep. 51- Lifting As We Climb- Interview: Jesse Cannon II 01.02.2021

Send us Fan Mail In this week's episode, Eric and Justin have the great pleasure of interviewing Duncanville High School Director of Choral Activities/Secondary Choral Coordinator Jesse Cannon II. Jesse waste no time in this episode dealing with the rhyme and reason why we do what we do. More importantly, letting that truly be the foundation for our existence in our music programs. Tune in an...

Ep. 50- Seeking Competitive Greatness-Interview: William Young 25.01.2021

Send us Fan Mail In this week's episode, Eric and Justin have the great pleasure of interviewing Duncanville Fine Arts Director William Young.  Mr. Young details his career and what allowed him to compete at a high level without losing sight of what it all means. William discusses how he took to never make excuses but to change the narrative and stay true to who he is at the same time. Tune i...

Ep. 49- How to Keep Going: Focusing on Growth for the Disinterested 18.01.2021

Send us Fan Mail Are you drained? Are you completely uninspired? Well, good news, you’re not alone. In this week's episode, Eric and Justin discuss what and how to keep pushing throughout. Tune in and check out this pick me up!!!! In Rotation: Gregory Porter- "Getting Thru It" - Eric Fred Hammon- Justin Connect with us Facebook, Twitter & Instagram: @podthescore; podthescore@gma...

Ep. 48- Musicking In and Out of School: Interview- Steve Giddings 11.01.2021

Send us Fan Mail In the first episode of the new year, Eric and Justin interview music educator extraordinaire Steve Giddings. We discuss new realities and possibilities available in the classroom in this age of music ed. Steve rocks the norm of what he does for his kids and how it can be the norm and not just an anomaly. Tune in and enjoy !!! In Rotation: De Vuelta Pa La Vuelta- Daddy Yankee &amp...

Ep. 47- Music Citizenship- Interview: Courtney Powers 16.11.2020

Send us Fan Mail In this episode Eric and Justin interview music educator extraordinaire Courtney Powers. We discuss music citizenship's specifics and how to navigate spaces that may be guarded or closed off to the new innovative aspects of our art. Courtney also speaks to being a female band director/educator and what that means and how that impacts her classroom and how she teaches her stud...

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