Eric Jimenez & Justin McLean
The Score
An Urban Music Education Podcast hosted by Eric and Justin. They provide tips and strategies through honest discussions about their experience teaching music in an Urban setting. The goal is to provide a positive and solution-based narrative to create more effective, compassionate and culturally relevant music educators.
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Eric Jimenez & Justin McLean
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Jul 6, 2026
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Episodes
Ep. 96- Season 4- Back Like We Never left 05.09.2023 50:48
Send us Fan Mail Eric and Justin are back to kick off another season of The Score. We could not start this season without letting our listeners know about the new seasons of life we are in and how, even though they look different, the outcome is all the same. We may have left our places of origin, but IMPACT is still the name of the game. Please check out this week's episode and make sure you...
Ep. 95- SUMMER BREAK! But with some BIG UPDATES from Eric & Justin 05.06.2023 44:54
Send us Fan Mail In this week's episode, Eric and Justin discuss some major changes that have taken place in their respective lives. Both Eric and Justin are excited about the new life changes and want to share them with our listeners. Don't miss out on these exciting times in the life of The Score Podcast. Tune in and check out this week's episode. Enjoy and share!!! In Rotation: E...
Ep. 94- Don't Wait, CREATE! 15.05.2023 41:19
Send us Fan Mail In this week's episode, Eric and Justin passionately discuss knocking down doors of opportunities to create something new. This discussion is powered by the concept that we all have to do something to contribute to the world of music education. Whether it's a pedagogical approach, student relationship cultivation, or a nuanced way of retaining students in a dying program...
Episode 93- The Wife, The Mom, The Educator, and The Brand- The Hard Truth of Finding Balance- Jasmine Fripp 01.05.2023 54:14
Send us Fan Mail In this week's episode, Eric and Justin had the great honor of talking with educator extraordinaire Jasmine Fripp. Jasmine Fripp is the Director of Choral Activities and General Music at Kipp Nashville Collegiate High School. Mrs. Fripp is an innovator and world-class music educator. Yet, in this episode, she is speaking about something that evades every music educator—the co...
Ep. 92- Article: My Pretend Music School- Ivan Trevino 11.04.2023 13:34
Send us Fan Mail In this week's episode, Eric narrates an article, "My Pretend Music School," from composer and percussionist Ivan Trevino. Ivan, an active educator, currently serves as a Lecturer in Percussion at the University of Texas at Austin. He is also co-director of the Eastman Percussion Festival, a biennial summer festival hosted by the Eastman School of Music. He is an ar...
Episode 91- Trans Kids Belong: Nicolas Prosini & Ær Queen 03.04.2023 52:01
Send us Fan Mail In this week's episode, Eric and Justin get the chance to interview Nicolas Prosini & Ær Queen, two elementary school music teachers from Fairfax County Schools, Virginia. We explore the topic of trans kids in the music classroom and how music educators can create a safe, equitable, inclusive, and welcoming environment for them. Ultimately, we explore how music can be a p...
Ep. 90-I’d Rather Not Be Saying This To You Right Now- Introverts in Music Education- Aaron Staebell 27.03.2023 57:54
Send us Fan Mail In this week's episode, Eric and Justin get the chance to interview Aaron Staebell. Mr. Staebell takes us into the world of a introverted music. This birds-eye view conversation will give every listener a great insight into why understanding introverts in the classroom. Listen in as Aaron discusses with Eric and Justin the importance of knowing how to properly teach, care an...
Ep. 89- Beyond The Ensemble- Music Education for the Other 80%: Meghan O'Connor-Vince 27.02.2023 57:58
Send us Fan Mail In this week's episode, Eric and Justin get the chance to interview Mrs. Meaghan O’Connor-Vince. Mrs. O’Connor-Vince teaches Music Technology at Barnstable High School in Hyannis, Massachusetts. Meaghan has a great journey as a prototypical band director that has developed a deep passion and vision of the imminent possibilities for equipping the next generation of music maker...
Ep. 88- Relationships Matter: Dr. Jack Eaddy 20.02.2023 57:06
Send us Fan Mail In this week's episode, Eric and Justin get the chance to interview Dr. Jack Eaddy. Dr. Eaddy is the Director of Athletic Bands and the Pride of the Mountains Marching Band at Western Carolina University and has a similar mindset to both Eric and Justin. Dr. Eaddy is a stark believer of authentic relationships and that they are the foundation of any level of success for a ban...
Ep. 87- Article: The Climb of Your Life- Jesse Cannon II 06.02.2023 9:31
Send us Fan Mail Article reading of Jesse Cannon II's most recent article in the TMEA Southwestern Musician magazine- The Climb of Your Life. Please consider Jesse for TMEA President-Elect! Why Jesse Cannon II for the TMEA President-Elect Southwestern Musician Support the show Connect with us on Facebook , Twitter & Instagram : @podthescore Email: podthescore@gmail.com | The Score Podcast...
Ep. 86- Viva Mariachi! Interview: Ramon Rivera 23.01.2023 53:25
Send us Fan Mail In this week's episode, Eric and Justin get a chance to interview Mr. Ramon Rivera, Director of Mariachi in The Mt Vernon School District. You don't want to miss this episode as Mr. Rivera passionately lays out the need and power of developing a quality mariachi program. It is a great episode to inspire and give resources to those looking to spark something new in their...
Ep. 85- New Year, New Things 16.01.2023 50:25
Send us Fan Mail In this week's episode, Eric and Justin bring in the new year by discussing what recent changes have transpired at the start of 2023. The duo also discusses the experience of getting the opportunity to present and be a part of the Midwest Clinic in Chicago. In Rotation: Eric- Carin Leon & Grupo Frontera "Que Vuelvas" Justin- Donnie Houston Podcast Connect with...
Ep. 84- Viva La Musica- Interview: Ani Silva-Berrios 19.12.2022 44:59
Send us Fan Mail In this week's episode, Eric and Justin interview elementary music extraordinaire Ani Silva-Berrios. Mrs. Berrios takes us on a journey of exploration and discovery in her classroom as she works to give her students an unforgettable experience. This week's episode gets into the vulnerability that we as educators must have, even in our own wheel house to keep ourselves le...
Ep. 83- But, The Lyrics Are Inappropriate 12.12.2022 41:15
Send us Fan Mail In this week's episode, Eric and Justin discuss the relationship between lyrics and music. This relationship is what can cause a disconnect between students and directors. Simply because of a lack of knowledge or willingness to check out the newest sound in music. Eric and Justin discuss the barrier that can be in our band hall and programs with specific ways to tear down thi...
Ep. 82- On The Beat- Interview- Tim Greene Sr. 28.11.2022 47:31
Send us Fan Mail On the Beat: A discussion in percussion pedagogy and common practices with Tim Greene Sr. In this week's episode, Eric and Justin talk with special guest and friend percussion educator extraordinaire Tim Greene Sr. In this episode, you will get a chance to hear an honest conversation on the aspect of change in the world of music education. Hear hard truths and perspectives on...
Ep. 81- All Hands On Deck: How to Increase Parental Support in Music Education 21.11.2022 48:02
Send us Fan Mail Eric and Justin discuss their experiences building a foundational parental support group at various campuses. Each has experienced a wide range of levels of participation, from no parental involvement to a declining one but has been able to create the necessary space to increase participation levels while making parents feel valued and appreciated for their contributions. Take a l...
Ep. 79- Re-release: Hip Hop Music Ed- RIP Jarritt Sheel 14.11.2022 1:06:32
Send us Fan Mail We received the news that our friend and past guest, Jarritt Sheel, had passed. We met via social media as he was a supporter and fan of our podcast. He booked us for several semesters to do guest lectures for various of his courses at the Berklee School of Music. In return, he would always reach out to us to celebrate our multiple milestones. We were talking about continuing our...
Ep. 80- Re-release: ARTICLE- The Long Scars of Culturally Responsive Teaching: RIP Jarritt Sheel 14.11.2022 12:07
Send us Fan Mail We received the news that our friend and past guest, Jarritt Sheel, had passed. We met via social media as he was a supporter and fan of our podcast. He booked us for several semesters to do guest lectures for various of his courses at the Berklee School of Music. In return, he would always reach out to us to celebrate our multiple milestones. We were talking about continuing our...
Ep. 78- Has anything REALLY changed in music education?- Dr. Sarah Gulish 25.10.2022 57:06
Send us Fan Mail In this week's episode, Eric and Justin talk with special guest and friend Dr. Sarah Gulish. Dr. Gulish is a music teacher and the owner of F-Flat Books Publishing. In this episode, you will get a chance to hear an honest conversation on the aspect of change in the world of music education. Hear hard truths and perspectives on where we are and where could be in our journey a...
Ep. 77- Why You Should Stay: How to Learn From Every Job- Interview: Ryan Clift 29.08.2022 50:18
Send us Fan Mail In this week's episode, Eric and Justin talk with our special guest Mr. Ryan Clift, the Director of Bands at Hightower High School in Missouri City, Texas. In this episode, you will get a chance to hear how to grow where you are planted even when the environment isn’t the greatest. We hope to affirm and encourage you not to let tough spaces keep you from fulfilling your journ...
Ep. 76- Authenticity Is Your Superpower-Interview: Jerell Horton 22.08.2022 49:00
Send us Fan Mail In this week's episode, Eric and Justin talk with our special guest Mr. Jerell Horton, the Director of Bands at Vestavia Hills High School in Vestavia Hills, Alabama. In this episode, you will get a chance to meet one of the most humbled and interesting educators in Jerell Horton. Mr. Horton will discuss what it means to be authentic and unapologetic about it. We hope to affi...
Ep. 75- We NEED You! Why Representation Matters 08.08.2022 47:26
Send us Fan Mail Eric and Justin are back to kick off Season 3! What better way to do that than by discussing representation? Listen in to hear why representation is important in every music classroom and band hall. The discussion reveals real-time application of putting action behind these conversations. So don’t wait-check out this week's episode to be encouraged and inspired. Enjoy and sha...
Ep. 74- An Un-Caged Bird- Interview: Timothy Richardson 16.05.2022 46:29
Send us Fan Mail In this week's episode, Eric and Justin talk with our special guest Mr. Timothy Richardson, the newly appointed Director Of Bands at Eisenhower High School in the Aldine Independent School District. In this episode, you will get a chance to meet one of the most humbled and hardworking educators in Timothy Richardson. Mr. Richardson will discuss his journey and what integrity...
Ep. 73- How Do You Define Success 02.05.2022 46:08
Send us Fan Mail In this week's episode, Eric and Justin discuss what it means to define success. This episode's conversation deals with how UIL Concert & Sightreading ratings keep us paralyzed and only define success with a number. This conversation is to help refocus and develop a deeper more authentic meaning of success for us as educators and the students we pour into each week....
Ep. 72- SEL Alone Isn’t Enough to “Save” Our Music Students - Interview: Darlene Machacon 11.04.2022 52:57
Send us Fan Mail In this week's episode, Eric and Justin talk with our special guest Mrs. Darlene Machacon, an elementary general music teacher and choir director in Orange County, California, a proponent of Social Emotional Learning. This episode's conversation deals with how the term shouldn't be educational jargon but something authentic that requires intentionality and consisten...
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