The Other Side of the Chart

Why does healthcare still feel so disconnected — even after decades of digitization? Behind every repeated story, every missing record, and every moment of frustration is something deeper: the way health information is captured, shared, and too often siloed. Dr. Steven Lane is a practicing physician, clinical informaticist, and Chief Medical Officer at Health Gorilla. He has spent decades at the c...

In this deeply personal episode, Dr. Jill Goldenberg sits down with  Ruth DiPasquale —a film and television professional, longtime New Yorker, and devoted caregiver. Ruth shares the story of her husband Stevie’s medical journey after treatment for prostate cancer led to devastating complications: severe radiation injury, repeated infections and sepsis, multiple surgeries, and years spent navigatin...

Season Two of  The Other Side of the Chart  begins by returning to the voices that shaped the beginning of the show. In this special opening episode, Dr. Jill Goldenberg revisits the first five conversations — not as a recap or a finale, but as a foundation. These voices help ground the questions that will guide Season Two: How do we make healthcare more human? And what gets lost when systems are...

As 2025 comes to a close, Dr. Jill Goldenberg reflects on the first year of  The Other Side of the Chart   and the voices that shaped it. This brief episode looks back on conversations with patients, clinicians, and innovators, and looks ahead to a special 2026 kickoff episode,  Voices from the First Five . Thank you for listening, and see you in the new year.

In this conversation,  Pranam Ben , founder and CEO of  The Garage , shares his mission to build the  operating system for value-based care . Drawing from a deeply personal story of frustration within the U.S. healthcare system, Pranam set out to design a platform that empowers better care. We explore the difference between systems that track patients and those that actually know them, and how Pra...

In this conversation, Dr. Victor Montori discusses the importance of careful and kind care in healthcare, contrasting it with the industrialized medicine model that often processes patients rather than caring for them. He emphasizes the need for systems that enable deep human connections between caregivers and care receivers, the significance of reframing patient non-compliance, and the concept of...

What does it mean to truly  die well ? In this episode of  The Other Side of the Chart , Dr. Jill Goldenberg sits down with Dr. Barbara Morris a geriatrician, advocate, founder of Geriatric Advocacy & Consulting, and co-founder and President of End of Life Options Colorado to explore the evolving landscape of end-of-life care. Dr. Morris shares her vision of what she calls  “the symphony of th...

In this episode of  The Other Side of the Chart , host Dr. Jill Goldenberg sits down with Dr. Kevin Larsen, Senior Vice President of Clinical Innovation and former leader at CMS and ONC, to explore the evolution of medical documentation, from handwritten charts to AI-generated notes. Together, they unpack how documentation has shifted from a clinician’s memory aid to a complex record serving patie...

🎙️ Episode 1:  Living the System – What Patients Wish We Knew Guest:  Dalia – lawyer, mom, patient, and lifelong “VIP” (very involved patient) Summary: In this powerful premiere episode, host Dr. Jill Goldenberg sits down with Dalia, a lawyer and mother who has spent her entire life navigating the healthcare system. Diagnosed with her first tumor as a toddler and with multiple distinct cancers ove...

Welcome to  The Other Side of the Chart  — a podcast for healthcare leaders in technology, operations, and policy... and for anyone who's ever felt lost in the system. Hosted by Dr. Jill Goldenberg, a physician and leader in clinical informatics and value-based care, this show explores what healthcare could be if we designed it around real people. Each episode features candid conversations with pa...