Sacha and Ish
The Not So Breakfast Show
Listen, laugh and learn as we share our latest thoughts about staying relevant, contemporary leadership and doing life right. Ish Cheyne is the Head of Fitness in New Zealand for global fitness juggernaut Les Mills. Sacha Coburn is the COO of Coffee Culture, a leading group of boutique coffee shops, and the co-founder of The Company You Keep.co.nz.
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Jul 5, 2026
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Episodes
Episode 228: Laptops, Notebooks, and the Art of Meeting Presence 14.09.2025 26:14
Send us Fan Mail Laptops, Notebooks, and the Art of Meeting Presence Sacha's fully dressed this week (an achievement after last episode's Jedi robe situation), while Ish has been designing corporate off-sites and pondering the eternal question: what does your choice of meeting tech say about you? From notebooks to laptop barriers, this conversation dives into how showing up intentionall...
Episode 227: Momentum Over Motivation: The Art of Doing It Anyway 07.09.2025 29:51
Send us Fan Mail Sacha appears in full Jedi regalia (aka her dressing gown) because house staging has banished all her warm clothes to boxes in the attic, while fake dried flowers now populate her formerly book-filled shelves. From this perfectly timed example of "not feeling it" comes a conversation about practical strategies for showing up when motivation has completely abandoned ship....
Episode 226: The Gap Between Expectation and Rain-Soaked Reality 31.08.2025 26:44
Send us Fan Mail Episode 226: The Gap Between Expectation and Rain-Soaked Reality The episode opens with something completely unprecedented: Sacha starting the show with a ChatGPT-generated script about disappointment. Three minutes of AI-crafted banter later, both hosts are thoroughly weirded out and decide to start over properly - leading to a deeper conversation about disappointment, expectati...
Episode 225: Decision Fatigue 17.08.2025 30:09
Send us Fan Mail Episode 225: Decision Fatigue Sacha's sparkling from her early morning gym session (not traditionally a morning person but aging into it), while Ish admits to being in bed by 8:30pm because everyone else was out. From this perfectly matched energy mismatch comes a conversation about decision fatigue - plus Sacha drops a challenge that might just produce New Zealand's ne...
Episode 224: F8 Buttons, Failed Records, and Finding Gratitude 10.08.2025 25:27
Send us Fan Mail Episode 224: The Hour of Fails and the Power of Reflection Join Ish and Sach for the discovery of the dreaded F8 button, and the ultimate podcast fail -doing an entire show without hitting record. But from this beautiful disaster comes a conversation about reflection, journaling, and learning from our daily experiences (including how to properly operate recording equipment). Main...
Episode 223: Reflections on MoMENtum 03.08.2025 29:25
Send us Fan Mail Listen, laugh, and learn as we share our latest thoughts on staying relevant, contemporary leadership, and doing life right. Ish Cheyne is the Head of Fitness in New Zealand for global fitness juggernaut Les Mills. Sacha Coburn is the co-owner and Head of Helping at Coffee Culture, a leading group of boutique coffee shops. If you haven’t come across it yet, Working Genius is one o...
Episode 222: Coffee Culture Chronicles - Building Community One Cup at a Time 27.07.2025 27:24
Send us Fan Mail Episode 222: Coffee Culture Chronicles - Building Community One Cup at a Time Sacha's broadcasting live from her Antarctic igloo (aka Christchurch in winter), complete with puffer jacket indoors, preparing for this week's Momentum conference, where she's the lone woman among a lineup of "bros and me." This leads into the fascinating origin story of Coffee...
Episode 221: Say What You Mean Without Being Mean 20.07.2025 27:39
Send us Fan Mail Not So Breakfast Show - Episode 221: Say What You Mean Without Being Mean Ish and Sacha are live and in-person for only the third time in 222 episodes. Today's topic: how to challenge ideas and give feedback without being mean, plus how to receive that feedback without taking it personally. Also, the irony wasn't lost on anyone that an episode about "saying what yo...
Episode 220: Once Upon a Time... The Power of Story in Sales 13.07.2025 31:19
Send us Fan Mail Episode 220: Once Upon a Time... The Power of Story in Sales Ish opens with a ChatGPT-generated fairy tale intro featuring "the evil rental property™" as the villain tormenting Sir Ish, while Sacha reveals her big news: after 13 years in Hamilton, she and Chris are moving back to Christchurch! This house-hunting adventure becomes the perfect segue into exploring why sto...
Episode 219: Special Late Night Edition: The secret life of a Juice Hustler 06.07.2025 33:57
Send us Fan Mail Special Late Night Edition: The secret life of a Juice Hustler Ish stays up past his bedtime (a whopping 8:12 pm!) to chat with Sacha's friend Aarti Bhanderi-Shah, who went from corporate law to driving around London with a car full of cold-pressed juices, pitching to 300 cafes in two weeks. Now a nutritionist, Aarti shares why sleep might be more important than your kale smo...
When Shame Hits Different (And WhatsApp Groups Become Weapons) 29.06.2025 28:27
Send us Fan Mail Episode 218: When Shame Hits Different (And WhatsApp Groups Become Weapons) Sacha returns from Fiji with a tan and a trauma—being unceremoniously booted from a Harvard WhatsApp group with 160 people, then discovering they had a whole discussion about her "eligibility" while she was locked out. What starts as a petty digital drama becomes a masterclass in understanding th...
The Perspective Problem (And Why You'll Start Your Running Program Tomorrow) 21.06.2025 24:38
Send us Fan Mail Episode 217: The Perspective Problem (And Why You'll Start Your Running Program Tomorrow) This week, we examine how our personal perspective determines whether we ruminate about the past, catastrophize about the future, or have public meltdowns with zero regard for consequences. Plus, the brutal truth about "future discounting" and why Sacha's been planning to...
Episode 216: When LinkedIn Goes Wild (And Why Professional Discourse Matters) 08.06.2025 25:56
Send us Fan Mail When LinkedIn Goes Wild (And Why Professional Discourse Matters) Sacha went a bit viral on LinkedIn with a post calling out the appalling way people were attacking former New Zealand PM Jacinda Ardern's new book. What started as frustration with unprofessional discourse turned into a masterclass on why how you express yourself online matters for your career, and why women fac...
Episode 215: Taking Your Shot (Even When You're Over 50) 01.06.2025 28:43
Send us Fan Mail Not So Breakfast Show - Episode 215: Taking Your Shot (Even When You're Over 50) Sacha discovers that 80% of Forbes' "100 Most Powerful Women" are over 50 and has a full-blown existential celebration! In this episode, our hosts dive into recognising when it's time to make a move, overcoming the "I could do this, or this, or this" paralysis, and w...
Episode 214: Developing Your People (Without Losing Your Mind) 25.05.2025 25:53
Send us Fan Mail Not So Breakfast Show - Episode 214: Developing Your People (Without Losing Your Mind) Ish and Sacha return from their international adventures (Chicago and Morocco, respectively) to tackle one of leadership's biggest challenges: how to develop your team without burning yourself out in the process. Is investing in people worth it if they might leave? (Spoiler: the alternative...
Episode 213: Re-release Is comparison killing your creativity 11.05.2025 28:20
Send us Fan Mail Episode 213 (RE-RELEASE): Is Comparison Killing Your Creativity? Ever find yourself scrolling social media and suddenly feeling like a complete failure? In this fan-favourite episode, Ish and Sacha dive into why comparison can either fuel your fire or completely extinguish it! Get ready for some straight talk about why your Instagram envy might be holding back your best ideas. Mai...
Episode 212: Navigating the pace of change 04.05.2025 43:10
Send us Fan Mail Episode 212: Navigating the pace of change. - What's Changed? (Spoiler: Everything) From robots making your coffee to AI that can get hired for jobs through four online interviews, Ish and Sacha dive into the dizzying pace of technological change since they started podcasting. Get ready for tales of "digital souls," automated concert footage, and why saying "...
Episode 211: Brainstorming about brainstorming 27.04.2025 32:26
Send us Fan Mail Episode 211: Brainstorming (or How We Keep Coming Up With This Stuff) Ever wondered how Ish and Sacha keep cranking out podcast ideas after 210+ episodes? In this meta-episode, they pull back the curtain on their creative process while simultaneously demonstrating it live! From random observations to full-fledged show concepts, discover the art of turning everyday moments into con...
Episode 210: The leadership skill nobody talks about 13.04.2025 30:13
Send us Fan Mail Episode 210: The leadership skill nobody talks about Or maybe we should have called it PAUSE FOR EFFECT! 🤫 Turns out the most powerful leadership move isn't saying something brilliant - it's shutting up at the right time! In this episode, Ish and Sach dive into the superpower of the strategic pause. That magical moment between someone saying something annoying and you...
Episode 209: What would you do? 06.04.2025 29:03
Send us Fan Mail Episode 209: What Would You Do? Ish and Sacha dive into several challenging workplace situations and explore effective leadership responses versus gut reactions. From public challenges to walkouts and tech fails, this episode prepares you with practical strategies for those uncomfortable moments that inevitably arise in professional settings. Plus, we close out the Ralph Macchio...
Episode 208: Seven subtle power moves 30.03.2025 25:19
Send us Fan Mail Episode 208: Seven Subtle Power Moves Ish and Sacha explore seven understated yet impactful actions that can elevate your professional reputation and effectiveness at work. Whether you want to increase your visibility or demonstrate leadership potential, these subtle power moves can help you stand out for all the right reasons. Main Topics Find and Fill Gaps -- Identify tasks no...
Episode 207: What Defines Your Success? 23.03.2025 29:45
Send us Fan Mail Episode 207: What Defines Your Success? Ish and Sacha explore the concept of personal success beyond traditional metrics like money and job titles. This thoughtful discussion challenges listeners to examine their own success criteria, prevent burnout, and align their goals with values that truly matter to them. Main Topics Success Quadrants -- Sacha's framework for measuring...
Episode 206: The Surprising Truth About Colouring In 16.03.2025 27:10
Send us Fan Mail The Surprising Truth About Colouring In Dive into the creative world with Ish and Sacha as they explore why incorporating creativity into your workday isn't just fun—it's essential for problem-solving, innovation, and mental wellbeing. Learn about practical ways to unlock your creative thinking, even if you consider yourself "not the creative type." Main Topic...
Episode 205: The Five P's of Reflection 09.03.2025 34:44
Send us Fan Mail Episode 205: The Five P's of Reflection Join Ish and Sacha as they explore a powerful reflection exercise using five words that begin with "P". In the show, they dive into personal examples of what they're proud of, what they're procrastinating on, and which partnerships they value most - all while demonstrating how these simple prompts can reveal deeper i...
Episode 204: Down The AI Rabbit Hole 02.03.2025 36:00
Send us Fan Mail Episode 204: Down the AI Rabbit Hole Jump into the world of AI tools with Ish and Sach as they explore how AI can boost your productivity and creativity. In this episode they share practical examples, live demos, and thoughtful perspectives on making AI work for you - not the other way around. Main Topics AI Tool Comparison – Ish breaks down the differences between ChatGPT, Claude...
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